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 "title": "65 HS1-834228961 62-HQ-83894 Section 2",
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   "text": "-\n--\n62- /H0~3894\nBilS 53-100\nIit llW 2\nz\n0\n~\n-~\n3-100\nc.., -\n~\nt-4\n1111\n1 IIll1l111111111l!llill llilll\n1ll!lilm11111\n-\n------..--\nRRP0031XH- 3\n- - ~C I\n-\nDONOT\nDUTROY\n. a:::r-.- I f.3/re ¥()l/\n-:c\nt-\nc..\n::z-....\nC:1\n:z\nCl:\n:c\nca\n~\nFBI - CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER\nHQ - HEADQUARTERS\n'-l3SS JCase #\nSub\nVol.\nScnal #\n~2 83894\n2\n53\n100\n8/11/1274197"
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   "text": "~---~&\n~ .\nOffice Memorandum •\nuNJ.\n.\n,\n/\nTo\n~ -\nDirector, FBI - Attention, .Assistant\nDirector D. K. LADD\nDATE: A ' t 8, 1947\n••\nFROM\nSAC, San Francisco\nSUBJEC\nfrLTING DISCS\nReference is made to my letter to the Bureau dated July 28, 1947\nentitled as above forwarding a. copy of a report f'urnished to me by Lieutenant\nColonel DONAU) SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth .Air Force, Hamilton Field, California, set­\nting forth the results of inquiries made by his office concerning the reported\n&ightings of flying discs.\n-c~\n,, ~\nAs ot further interest to the Bureau in this regard, theii(..~\ne,,,\nv--v:\nmitted herewith ghotos~atic copies of three letters dated August 4, 19\nentitled \"Investigation of FlyiDg Discs,\" furnished to ma by Major WILLIA){ R.\nGRAHAH, Deputy AC of S, A-2, A.rJq Air Forces, Hamilton Field, California, who is\nacting in the absence of Lieutenant Colonel SPRINGER, enclosillg copies of reports\nof additional reported sightings of flying discs by persons in Oregon and Arizona,\ntogether with the results of their investigations in that regard.\nIt is noted that these investigations were conducted prior to the\ntime Bureau instructions were issued that our own Bureau would conduct inquiries\ninto the reported sightings of flying discs.\n~-\n~\n1\nCopies of these reports a.re being forwarded to\nortl\nand\nPhoenix Offices for the completion of their files in connection with this subject.\nBMKaemb\nEnclosures -\n3\noc Portland (with enclosures - 3)\nPhoenix (with enclosures - 3)\n0\n5 5 OCT 6"
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   "text": "~\n~'{{ANOARO f\"OAM NO. 6-4\nOffice Me\n•\nTO\n'\nnm.ECTOR,\nSAC' NEi'fARK\nSUBJECT: !\"LYING DISC H.EPOR'.IED AT\norandum • UNITED\n•\nDATE: August 13, 194'/\nHACKENSACK, NEW JERSEY\nAUGUST J, 1947 - 1USCELLA.NEOUS\nReference is made to tne teletYPe from the Newark Division\nto tne Bureau dated August 4, 194'7 stating tnat a ''Flying Disc\" had\nbeen repor ted to n~ ~een seen at HacKens;st!New Jersey on August J\n6\nlast by one CHARLES~ELIA, JR. and ',VILLIAJ..~UEX.\nCHARI.E0 CASELIA, JH., 287 Euclid Avenue, Hackensack, upon\ninterview by Special Agent AR'IHUR F. WILLIAMS of this Division, stated\nthat on Au~st J he had been standing with WILLIAM 'IRUEX, a soldier\nstationed at Fort Dix, obser ving a\n11ham11 radio rig atop a two-story\nhouse on Simons Avenue, Hackensack. It was approximatel y 7:45 p.m. ,\nand tney were in this vicinity for t he purpose of meeting 'IRUEX1s\ngirlir ieno, one JOYCE Mc FA!t.IAND.\n'IRUEX commented to CASELIA that a chil d had apparently\nlost its balloon.\n<.;ASELLA looked and about a block or a hal1' block\naway noticed a rouna, black object moving from south to north and\neast of the stop wnere he and 'IRUEX were standing.\nCASELIA noticed\ntnat it was moving too fast to be an ordinary balloon, but he could\nnot discern wnether it was globular in form or a disc.\nHe said it\nwas about thirty to forty inches in diameter moving north in a hori­\nzontal plane about two hundred yards aoove the top of the nill at\nSumnu.t Avenue and Simons Avenue.\nI~ proceeded at a steady ra~e,\nellll.tted rio rays, and was moving fast enougn to reqUl.I'e tnem to turn\ntneir heads steadily in order to follow· it.\n'IRUEX1s girlfriend came\nout about fifteen seconds after they first sighted it.\nThey pointed\nit out to her, and she said that it looked like a bird on tne horizon\nso small. It faded out of sight shortly thereafter.\nCASELIA said\nthat a line drawn along its apparent course of f .ligb.t would go from\nthe vicinity of Bentlix, New Jersey to a point west of Westwood, New\nJersey.\nCASE.LIA also said tna~ a man on tne porch across tne street\nalso noticed it and pointea it out to tne women.\nCASELIA said that\nthis man seemed excited but did nothing about it.\nCASELLA. said tna~ he was positive it was no optical illusion.\nHe was not facing into tne sun and saw tne object clearly.\nHe also\nsaid tnat ne would have thought no~ning of it except ror the speed at\nwhich it was traveling.\nu\nUIOORD~ ~\n\\\nA.F1f:EMC\nU EXE>\n'\nu~\n1941\n62-\n([7'\n~ I i)\n<:j­\ncoPrEs DES~ntf:lf ED\n2 7 (J\nNOV 18 1~o4"
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   "text": "•\n'\nUltter to Bureau\nAugust 13, 1947\nMiss JOYCE Mc FARIAND, 476 Simons Avenue, upon interview\nby Special Agent WILLIAMS, stated th.at the event in question occurred\nat about 7:30 on tne evening of Sunday, August 3. She said thai::. she\nwas in the house when CASELIA or '.IRUEX ca.Lled to her.\nShe went out\nimmediately, and they pointed out the object in question. She saw\nit just before it disappeared over tne horizon, but she declared that\nit was in view from that time for appro:x:i.mately one minute.\nShe said\nit was round and silver-blue in color and appeared to be revolving.\nShe said that she did not recall making any comment that. it nught have\nbeen a bird and herself had no idea of wnat it coUJ.d be.\nIn view of\ntne distance from which she noticed it, she said tnat it could not\nhave been more than six inches in diameter but would have been mucn\nlarger iI. she had been near to it.\nMiss :Mc FAH.IAND said that sne had\nnever seen anything like it berore.\nShe said that across tne street the BOOTHS, mother and\ndaughter, were the only people sitting on tne porcn and she, herself,\ndid not notice anyone pointing toward tne ooject in question.\nThe\nonly other person around, to her knowledge, was GLORIA '.IRUEX, sister\nof WILLI.AM '.IRUEX, wno remained in tne house and did not see the ooject\nat all.\nMrs. WINFIELD S. BOOTH, 459 Simons Avenue, stated that she\nwas on tne porch on tne evening in question with her mother but did\nnot notice any unusual object in the sky nor had any man been present\ntnere to point out the object in question.\nThe follovdng information was received from 'IRUEX through\ninterview by Special Agent T. H01'lARD WALDRON:\nPrivate WILLIAM .A. '.IRUEX, RA 12282003, Company G, 2nd Bat­\ntalion, 47tn Infantry Regiment, 9th Division, Fort Dix, New Jersey,\nadVised he was born ~pr1112, 1930 at Jersey Cit.y, New Jersey and\ncompleted eight and one nalf' years of school. He enlisted in tne\nUnited States Army on May 29, 194?.\nHis mother is Mrs. CEA.CE FI~LDS\nof 88 Wales Avenue, River Ectge, Bergen County, New Jersey.\n'IRU~X\nstated thai::. on Sunday, August 3, 1947, at 8:00 p.m., he was standing\noutside tne home or his girlfriend, Miss JOYCE llc FAH.IAND, 4·18 Simons\nAvenue, Hac1censack, New Jersey, accompanied by CHARLES CASELIA of 287\nEuclid Avenue, Hackensack, New Jersey, who is his sister 1s fiance.\nHe said tnat he and CASELIA vrere looking at the radio antenna on a\nhome near the 47~ Simons Avenue address wnen they noticed an object\n- 2 ­"
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   "text": "Letter to Bureau\nAugust 13, 194'/\n..\n-\nabout two to three feet in aiameter moving rapidly about two hundred\nyards off tne ground.\nTRUEX said he tnought at first it was a child's\nballoon, but when he noticed tnere was no wind and tne object had no\nstrings to it, ne decided it was sometning else. He stated tne object\nwas moving in a steady, straight patn, going nortn, and he said there\nwas no exhaust or indication of any motive power ror the object.\n'lRUEX said they observed tne object for fifteen or twenty seconds.\nHe\ncould not give a description 01· tne object's color or tne materiai. it\nwas composed of but said it looked more like a large, flat child's cup\ntnan anything else he could think or, as the object was oval on the\ntop and came to a point on tne bottom side.\n'.IRUEX said tna~ CASELLA.\nstated 11Maybe j,t's a flying saucer11 •\nHe said he nad never seen any­\nthing move through the air quite like this object, and he had no idea\nwhere it came from.\n'lRUEX sta~ea tha~ neither ne nor CASEIJA had had anytning to\ndrink, and there was sufficient light for tnem to observe tne object\nvery clear1y.\nTh.e\n11Fly1ng Disc11 was reported try CASELIA to Sergeant JAMES\nPERONE of tne Hackensack Police Department. Sergeant PERONE advised\ntne writer tnat his Department had taken no further action nor had\nthey received reports of the object in question from any other source.\nIt may be noted that no other Police Department in ~ne v:i.cmivy has\nbrought to tne attention oi this Division any information regarding\nt his matter.\n-3 ­"
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   "text": "\"'\n•..lbL IUREAU tf lll0ll6Afltll\nJ\n• 1,1, OlfAITIUf9f IUSfa\nCftl llh~SR1111\nAUG n\n947\nTELETYPE\nFBI DETROIT\n8- 5- 4 7\n5-08 PM EST\n.MRECTOR , FB I\nURGENT\n/\nI;\n6 [:A~:;~~✓-1\n~\nr: ~legit\n• ••••\nMr. Qla,tn\n•···· •·\nMr. Ladd\n, ..••• •••\nMr. Ntrhol~ ..••• -··\nMr. Rosen .........••\nMr. Tran·.... •·····\nMr. 111,ian ..........\nMr. 0..rllt>B\n••••••••\nBarbo ...........\nJOH\n0-\nu\nUNSUBS , RAYMOND EDWA,Y\"' LAN.0\", MRS. LAURJ\"LANE, INFORr!ATNTS, Fl..Y~­ -~-­\n-Dl_SC , MI SC.\nINFO RECE IVED FROM DOW CHEMICAL COMPANY, MIDLANB-,\nMI CHI GAN, THAT ON JULY TEN LAST RAYMOND Ent.JARD LANE AN EMPLOYEE\nOF DOW AND SUBSIDIARY SINCE ABOUT NINETEEN TWENTY TWO, BROi~ SO!'~E t'ftf\nMATERIAL TO THEIR PHYSICS LABORATORY STATING THAT ABOUT FIVE FEE TEEN;✓?\nPM JULY NINE LAST HE AND WIFE , LAURA LANE, WERE WALKING IN A FIELD\n...(\nOWNED BY DOt~ AND ABOUT A HUNDRED FEET AWAY HEARD A PUFF NOISE , TURNED\nll\n:-.\nAND SAW A BALL OF WHITE ABOUT THE SIZE OF A BUSHEL BAKET BURNING ABOUT\nA FOOT OFF THE GROUND .\nTHE FIRE DIED OUT I MMEDIATELY AND LANE LATE t\nSCOOPED UP A THREE INCH AREA OF FUSED SAND INTO A CAN AND TOOK THIS TO\nTHE PHYSICS LAB .\nBOTttieettP-LA I NANTS I NTERVIEWED .\nRAYMOND Tl±lfNG SUB­\nSTANTIALLY SAME STORY BUT WIFE RELUCTANT TO TALK AND VERY I NDEFINITE\nON WHAT HAPPENED.\nTHERE ARE MAKRED DISCREPANCIES IN THEIR STORY.\nDOW AUTHOR ITIES CONSIDERED STORY FANTASTIC BUT HAVE EXAMINED MATERIAL\nAND STATE CONTENTS TO BE ORDINARY SAND , NOT RADIO ACTIVE , BUT GIVING\nRECORD:\nOFF AMMONI A GAS , A SMALL SILVER NUGGE1) ALMOT\n~ ~Xf_JT- FOR S~\nMI SED IN IT NOT RADIO ACTIVE , MELTED ~~\nAND Wl{Ic{f°~s OFY\nvn~\n,\n,\nAMMONIA ODOR , AND LITTLE DROPLETS OF SILVER 5\nttE1.IJ;i,:D 1-J~\nND AND SOME\nOTHER GRAYISH COLOR IN MATERIA L WHICH IS RADIO ACT!\n.\nLEVEL OF\nRAD IO ACTIVITY EXTREMELY LOW AND\nEMPLOYEE \\~MER\nLOYED BY GOVERN­\n~~ MET AT LOS ALAMOS PROJECT STATES FUSED SAND-~AS SOME CHARACTERISIC\nr\n, , .\n~vtJl,"
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   "text": "f..\n., -\n(\n.. '\n_:.ill jl,I ' .l.t . ~\n., ·g '.:!\n.,1nm:>3S 7VNij3.t:i4 1\n..i1, Hd tJZ I OE d.\n\\"
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   "text": "..\nPAGE TWO\nOF LOS ALAMOS SAND BUT NOT BELIEVED TO BE THE SAME .\nRAYMOND\nLAND KNOWN TO HAVE IN HIS POSSESSION SMALL QUANTITY OF LUMINOUS\nPAINT, RADIO ACTIVE, TO BE AN AMATEUR PHOTOGRAPHER, TO HAVE LIMI TED\nKNOWLEDGE OF CHEMISTRY AND PHYSICS FROr EMPLOYMENT AT DOW .\nLAND\nDESCRIBED AS VERY PECULIAR, SURtLY, ANTAGON ISTIC TO PLANT PROTECTION\nOFFICERS , I NTERESTED IN PHOTOGRAPHY AND ELECTRICITY .\nLANE IS WHITE ,\nBORN MAY SEVEN, NINETEEN NAUGHT TWO, AT fREESOIL, MICHI GAN, FIVE\nFEET NINE AND ONE HALF, ONE HUNDRED FORTY FIVE POUNDS, DARK BROWN\nHAIR, PARTLY BALD, SERVED US ARMY NINETEEN EIGHTEEN TO NINETEEN\nTWENTY THREE, CONVICTED NINETEEN TWENTY FOUR MIDLAND COUNTY,\nMICHIGAN, FOR BURGLARY, SERVING SIXTY DAY SENTENCE .\nNEITHER PARTY\nADMITS STORY IS A PRANK, BUT LANE HAS MENTIONED FLYING DISCS AND ROCKET~\nON INTERVIEW LANE WAS RELUCTANT TO DI SCUSS MATTER AND NEITHER HE NOR\nHIS WIFE ARE ABLE TO LOCATE THE EXACT LOCATION WHERE MATERIAL WAS\nFOUND .\nARMY AIR FORCES I NTELLIGENCE AT SELFRIDGE FIELD, MICHIGAN,\nHAVE BEEN ADVI SED .\nSUTEL IF BUREAU DESIRES MATERIAL FORWARDED TO FBI\n-\nLABORATORY FOR EXAMI NATI ON .\n0- CONNOR\nCORRECTI ON LINE ONE WORD FOUR SHOULD RAXXX READ\nLANE\nEND\n6-16 PM OK FBI WASH DC WJ R ,~--~... :Lnoorntonr\n0\n/N ~r:Y\n~~-­~ ·-·"
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   "text": ":.\"C ;/Vfo i'£L£7 YPc UHiT\n...\n..\n7\n•\nAue 5 6 io PH '1/l\nI\n.: ­\n1..!.~'0/' .:JO '..1.c.;;.., •\n·, ·a ..:J\n.\\.i./Hn:13s 7~N~3J.N1\nd\n1\n, Hd '1Z I Ot dl\n031at3:,3\""
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   "text": "/\nSTANl>ARD FORM NO. 114\n•\n/ 6}pce Memorandum • • UNITED STA!S GOVERNMENT\nTO\nMr. Ladd\nFROM\nJ, P. Co,no~\nSUBJECT :\n(/\nlfflKNOWN SOBJEC?:\",S;\nRa,mond Edvar~e,\nMrs. Laura ume - Informants;\nFLYING DISC\nMISCELLANEOUS\nThere is attached a memorandum setting forth the pertinent\ninformation receiTed b7 the Detroit Office troll.R81]110nd Edvard Lane and\nMrs. Laura Lane relat1Te to \"t~ing discs.\"\nRECOMMENDATION:\nIt ie recommended that this :aater1al be personally d.el1Tered b7\nthe Liaison Section to the appropriate contact 1n the War Department."
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   "text": "--- ·.\nI. r\ny\n.,\nI\nr\n.\nI"
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   "text": ": .... • .... '\nI\n.,\n•\nI\n.,.\nAugust a, 1947\nFLYmG 'DISCS\nIni'o:nnation was received fl-om the n>w Chemical Company, lfidlona,\nMichigan, that on July 10, 194?, one ~m:md »3:ward Lane, an ~loyce of'.\nDow Chem.cal Company since about 1922., brouetit some mater~ to theu­\nJ'hy:sics laboratory.\nHe stated that about 5:15 p .m. , July 9, he and h1.s\nwife, Leura, were l'ralking in a !ield. when they heard a pll.ff noise about\none hundred feet e:vrgy.\nThEU turned and saw n ball of -white about the size\nof a b.lshel basket blming appr(>ximate'.cy a foot ott of the fll'OU.lld.\nThe fire\ndied out immediately and 'later Lane scooped up a three inch areu of l\\iaod\neand into a can tor examination at -their labora1:,<>u.\nUpan irtterv:Lew t,y FBI Aeents, ~nd told subetantio;Lly the sam.a\nstory, blt lira. Lane was reluctant to talk and rveey indefin1te o.bou.t what\nhnppcned. There were marked discrepancies in thoir stories.\nLbw authorities oonsidered the .story- tantastic but have exailltned\nthe mateial and state contents ares ordinary ~and, not radio active, rut\n,gt'Ving orr amm:>nia caoJ a StlalJ. silver nugget nlir.ost pure excep1;, for sand\nm.xcd in it, not radio active; molted or fused eand \"ffllioh gives off ru:imonia\nodor and little droplets of silver melted in sand and soI!le gr~sh color\ncaterial which is radio active.\nThe level of radio activity 1n this znaterinl\nis ext.rei:iely· low.\nAn emplczy-ee of Dow, formerly employ,ed by the Oovern.men.t at\nLos Alanxls Project, stated tho fused B£Uld luus some characteristics of Los Alnnx:,s\nsand but he does not believe it 1o the same.\nRaym:,nd Lane ia lmom to have in his possesSion a ~\nquantity of\nluJiilnouo pa1nt, radio active, to be an llr.lateur photographer and to have a\nlimited knowledge of chem!.ctry and ,Ph;;lfaics,\nHe io described na very peculiar,\naurl~•, antagonistic to plant protection o.rticars and interested 'ill photography\nand olectric1ty.\nLane ie rrhito, wns b::>ni ~\n7, 1902, at Freesoil, W.ohigan.\n9½\n11\nHe is 5 '\n, weighs 145 pounds, has dark brown he.:l.r:, porlly bald, served in\nthe U,6 . Ar.:qr trow 1918 to 1923.\nHe was arrested for hlrglary in :Midland County,\nW.chigan, in 1924, for which ho served a sixty day sentence.\nNoithc:r Rnyllt)nd Lane nor hts wife w.l.11 admit their story is a prank.\n\"\"\n0 ver, neither ai.·e able to point out tho exact location of thts incidsit,\nThe -ArJSU Airforce Intelligence at Solf'ridge Field, Ui.ohigan, has been\ned and the material has been turned over to them.\nRGF:mae\n~ ·'\nfiJ"
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   "text": "I\nfEQU\niilUAU OF fllV£STlilAtfON\nU, 8, OUAITMEKT Of WSTICE\n•\nCDMMUNtCATIONS SEGTION\nt\n(\n/\n(}~7~ ~ :.~.:' .\nW~\nFROM CGO\n8-8-47\n800 PM\n!llr, 1'<\n,14~.\n~CTO\n• U R G E N T \"\nl\\Ue)!\"tf\nSECUR ITY MAIER- ..x. •\n• 'l\nrLYING DISC SIGHTED BY MRS. ROBE~\nITTLE,\nCHICAGO HERALD AMERICAN TODAY REP.ORTED THAT LITTLE Of SIX THREE TWO\nSEVEN HARPER AVENUE CHICAGO REPORTED SEEING A DISC THREE THIRTY AM\nTODAY SAILING ABOVE LAKE MICHIGAN OFF JACKSON PARK BEACH.\nLITTLE\nUNAVAILABLE FOR INTERVIEW TODAY.\nFATHER IN LAW JOSEPH REINER,\nSIX THREE TWO SEVEN HARPER AVENUE, ADVISED LITTLE SIGHTED DISC OVER\nA MONTH AGO AND SHE IS EIGHTEEN YEARS OF AGE.\nNO FURTHER INQUIRY .\nCONTEMPLATED.\n, ,\nMC SWAIN\nDRRlll:lllN\nz~\n7\nEND ACK\n'-~,9\nq1)\nI"
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   "text": "'\n•\nI\nI"
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   "text": ":\nOffice Me\nUNITED S\nDATE: ?/';1/47\nD. M. LAll!J ~\nPROM\n. lv,n­\nE.G. Fi~ \\ U\n'r. Ladd ­\n~\\t\n~z :\n~\nA\n_i• --==­\nSUBJECT:\nFl.YING SAliCERS\n-\n/\n/\nt,,,,,,n\n~ C ­\n•.1.~.\n­\n-\nv.r. ~ ... ­\n'\"r .\nrr -;;\"'\nColonel Carl Golbranson of the Intelligence Divisjon of the 1ar\n~:;~,~ ­\nDepartment advised Special Agent S. w. Reynolds of the Liaison Section that : :~-:•~=-=\n.\nN\nk\nJ\n5\n1ole. Ro~:,\na\nthe :.ar Department has received\ntelegram, dated , ew Yor , New York, uly\n, Ill'. ;;oa •-==\nlltss ealJm\na S f O110,:($ :\n.IL!SS Gan<ly-­\n0 ~\n/\n11FOP. FUR:J.HER DETAILS CONCE:!JNING FLYING DISKS SUGGEST Il.~IA1E\nvC~J;?\nCONTACT OF MR. RICHARD F ~~SHAVER LILY LAKE ILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE\nTI@ORTANT Il!FORW>.TIC~1 CONCE:R.. ING '!HEIR ORIGilJ. 11\nColonel Golbranson furnished\nReynolds with a copy of the memorandum\nL r r\n.\nentitled \"Report on Flying Saucers, dated July\n1947, addressed to Corru:ianding\n?\n,\nGeneral, 32d A.AF Baso Unit, Bolling Field, l,ashington, D, c., from Joh~/4Schindler,\nJr., a copy of which is attached to this me:rorandum.\n'lhe attached memorandum sets\nforth information and statistics regarding two reportings of incidents of flying\ndisks.\n'!here is also attached hereto a map of the Illinois River area which -was\nfurnished to Ur. Reynolds by Colonel Golbranson. Colonel Golbranson stated that\naccording to this map the incidents reported in the attached memorandum are in the\ngeneral vicinity of Lily Lake, which was given as the address of Mr. Richard F.\nShaver in the anonyJ:1ous telegram received by the War Deparilnent.\nColonel Golbranson advised that in view of the fact that the observation\nof the flying saucers was made.on July 7th and the date of the unsigned telegram\nis.. July 5th, together with the proximity of Lily Lake to the points where the\n~\nobjects were observed, he desired the Bureau conduct some investigation of Shaver l\nto det~rmine whether or not he has any information pertaining to the origin of the\nflying saucers.\n•\nMr. Reynolds advised Colonel Golbranson that his request would be made\nknown to you and the results of any investigation would be brought to his attention . ✓\nRECO:M:~~ATION:\nIt is recommended that the field be directed to make inquiries regarding\nShaver and, if deemed advisable, interview him regarding any information that ne\nhas relative to flying disks.\" 'Ihe results of any investigation should be forwarded'\nto the Liaison Section.for delivery to the Intelligence Division of the war Depart­\n\"'\nment.\nAttachments\nS.'ffi:AJB\nnrf>'ID?Wm\n~t~~~"
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   "text": ",..\n•\nSAC, Chicago\nll\nAugust ~, 1947\n/\nDirector, FBI\n_6y\nf\nFLIIN~ mscs\n~~~~ &~-\ns\n0\nThe War Department has furnished this lhreau 'ffith\n, telegram dated July 5 at New York, N~ Yorks\n>/:\n\"P'OR FURTHER DE.TAILS CONCERNING FLYING DISKS SIJGGES?\nllWEDIATE CONrACT OF t.m. RICHARD F. SHAVER LILY LAKE\nIDINOIS WHO 1!AY HAVE Il!PORTAl:r INFORMATION COIJCERN­\nnlG THEIR ORIGIN. \"\nThe War D3partment has 1\\i:mished a meUX>randum entitled \"Report on\nFlying Saucers\", dated July '7 , 1947, addressed to Commanding General, J2d AAF\nBase Unit, Bolling Field, Uashington, D. C. , from John D. Schindler, Jr. , two\ncopies of which a.re attached.\nThe \\1ar Department has stated that the incidents\nrefer.red to in the attached memorandum are in the general vicinity of Li~ Lake,\nwhich was gtven as the address of Richard F. Shaver 1n the above telegram.\nIt is, therefore, desired that the Chicago Field Division conduct\nappropriate inquiries regarding Shaver, and in the event such inquiries do\nnot reveal information indicating 'that he should not be interviewed, he\nshould be interrogated for any infomntion he might have relative to flying\ndiscs. It :is desi'red that this matter be handled as soon as possible and\nthe Blreau promptly advised.\nJ)\nJ!hclosur~\nHGF:mae\nllr, 'l'olaon\nllr,E,A,~\n::m~n ­\n:::: ~g•- • .::-_-_\n01::::::­\nllr, Rosen -­\nllr. Trac.c.:::::::.=\n1 19 7 P.\n:.:~~·~a-­\nMr, Harbo --\nllr. llohr_ ;;-;;;:;:=\nMr. Pennington\nwr. Quinn Ta.\"1111-\n-r.le. Room\n-\nllr. Nease -­\nIllRs Oandy"
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   "text": "STAN.OARD FORM NO. 64\n•\nOffii ,Memoranuum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n16 July 47\nTO\nFBI\nDA.TE:\nFROM\nWDGS, US BRANCH\n•\nSUBJECT:\nRICHARD F. SHAVER\n1. Attached hereto:\na. Copy of unsigned t~legram received by HQ. AAF 9 July 1947,in which\nit is indicated that Richard F\nh ~~ Lilly Lake, Illinois may have in­\nformation concerning the origin of tlie ,flying saucers\".\nb. Copy of a report on flying saucers which were observed by four\nwitnesses while in flight in two airplanes over southern Wisconsin.\nc. Map with indications es to pro:xillli.ty of the locations where the\nflying saucers were reported to have been seen in relation to Lily Lahl,Ill .\nthat the time\n2. In view of the fact/the observation of the flying saucers was llll!lde\ncorresponds closely with the date of the unsigned telegram, and considering\nthe proximity of Lily Lake to the points where the objects were observed,\nit is requested that Mr ShaveRbe investig~t3d to determine whether or not\nhe has information pertaining to the origin of Flying Saucers.\n-I\n{t◄/)\n~ ~RBED ~.,,~~ 1 ~\n. -~ },~et ~tl=wf\\\nk\n/ ~n\n1\n~if\nm-~-\n1/~1/'f 7. 0 ''\n\"V-\n/ :_\nM Li~ s1947\n){\nV\n/I"
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   "text": "..\nNL PD\nNEWYCRK NY JUL 5\nMAJOR PA~\nYNOR\nAAF HQTS WASHDC\nFOR FURTHER DETAII.S CONCERNillG FLYING DISKS SUGGEST\nIMMEDIATE CONTACT OF MR. RICHARD F SHAVER LILY LAKE\nILLINOIS WHO MAY HAVE mMPORTANT INFORMATION CCNCPlillING\nTHEIR ORIGilJ\nUNSIGNED\n651P.\nCLOS~"
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   "text": "r\n•\nSJ:\nCammand.1~ Geaeral\n32d AA1 :Baae Unit\nBollug Jt1eld.\nWuhi~n, D • .o.\n1. J-olloving\n••t11Uos regardin.; r&Porta b)\" tour\nw1-tne•aH while ill flight in two a1rplane1.\n2. Wu.\\her ~tu. T1a1bUit,' e:mept1onalq good. Soat­\n\\ered alt.awmlua 6ooo teet~\n3• ftnt repor\"talilile 1145 hour■ OS!. Alt. of oueff91\"9\n800 fM' &NW U.. grcnra4. .Altil:a.u et...,_. ltooo !'ett Kli.e\nOlta~periM - fibt •lgb.tecl o.,_. 1.-aNcGJMntC. W1aoliuta • .\nF.l.1pt vu o'ba....._ tr.a ..._ or S.almtJMIIII le mldlon. V1■oona1a.\nflda tll&llt ooftl'ecl --...,..n..,. (25) 1111• 1111'11'.._ (15) aeooJMla,\n-1.oJl 1a a apee4 fd ■ix lh-. •4 (iooo) all• ~\nhow-.\n4. S... l'~a flllll 1430 Jao'lll'II ce. A.1.•ttade ot o'baU'Te1'9\nt1'Sr17-ttw lmll4r.a t.., (.3500) -.~ 41.ttnu ot ameer tva~tlft\n!ma4N4 fNI (2,00). Ollaer,a\\loa perle4. Okenen at llaa\\ tr.7,\nWiaoonaSa, fll&)lt euerwd hell Alcl•, Vl■oonala t. MMno, Wuoonallk\n1'h11 fii&bt oo'ftnCl tWllt,'-tw (22) 1111• la\"'-• (20 aeoonaa, lid.GIi\n1■ a •11,11 ~ thr• '--8114 a1ae Jatrel a1XV ()96o) au.. :per lunar~\n5• nl&bt -....nva1 nut •ba~loa-aano• c1..c.a.ed. TerUoaJ.l»'\n~•• ~ altooaal• olouu, etoppecl at to-a tillCNHIIA (4ooo)\nfeet and u----4 hutantal poelUon 11114 pl\"Ooeeded la llorlson,a1 tU&k'\ntrom a bortzeaW po■ltloa f•r tilt.. (15) a400i'de oo\"NZ'ing hentJ­\ntift (25) all• and ap1n ■lopped a1l4 41-,pearea. a eocan.t obeenaUoaa\nObaerTed. in horizontal tllpt 1n a. JlartsoaW att1'11A• for a period ot\nh•'7 (20) ■eoonla oo~ twa'7-1w· (22) .Uee-. _. the tt.. the\npilot had raoftl bl■ 08IMl\"a froa U.. glne oollpanllmt ot h1• plane,\nUae 1auoer Uaappea.recl aDl1 acah reappear-. appron-.,e17 •• (10) 1111•\ntanher al~ 1\\■ OOUl\"N after ah (6) aeoonu M!rt-i« lta tiaal ell►\n&ppeal'a,1Mse.\n6. l)a.i firat tvo oh•\"nn were• iu\\rulor and a ■tuat, ha\"fiDc\nJaal ,aka ott troll Jllldaora .l.trpon. ~\n■oocm4 ho ob■enwa, cme\n¥J1c ~•,. a. J. •~• Wlq la.p:plT OttlNr 11114 a paweager.\n-- '3\nI/-­\nf;NCI.OSURE JoJin &. fttwll.... , h.\nMAJ• AJ:r Ool'jlll, AAY-QAP J. lalaoa Ottie•"
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   "text": "(308)\nI\n,ow\nLe Rov\n2°W\n• 265) as• (Joins 264)\nLambert Conformal Conir\n~tion\n'\nN4000-W8500/400X800\n\\ /ORLD AERONA.UTICAL· CHAR'l\n(308)\nStanda:d Parallels 33° and 45°\n.1,000,000\n400\nStatute\n390\nMiles\n380\n360\naao\n320\n290\n. 210\n700\nHO\nuo\n,00\nso\n80\n,o\nso\n40\n30\n,0\nStatute\no\nMiles\n,0\nJ\n''°\n''°\n\"'\n\"'\n'\n(Joins 266) 93° (Joitu 265\n2°E\n,o, .,.\n6 E\nI\nI\nI\nWest Concord\ne\nI\nI\nI\nQ\nI\nRt•d Cit\nI\nI\ni\nI\nI\nheboygan\nI\nI\nI\nI\nI\nI\n£LEVATIONS\nIN F£ET\n\"\nI\nI\n•\"I\nI\n~\nt;\niJ\nI\nI\nI\nI\nI\n+\nTRMR\n•••\nDysart\n,.\nQ\nIs\nWalker\nWilliamsburg\no,\nTi ton\nort Washington\nDHR\n\"\nilwaukee\nENERAL M TCHEL~\nTOW R\n27\n67!f Lf\nORLICl<>RACINE\n...\nlacine\nm\nI\nI\nI\nI\nI\n\\\n(\nTWIN C TY\n.,.\n..1.11l111ii\nBremen\nSOJ.I H\nNO\n()215 SN :.!~\n•\nHowe\nCars\nCity\ne\n\"\n•\ne-\nQ e\nI\nI\nI\nI\n.ao\ne\nC\nw\n•\n•\ng\n\"\nFairbur~\n\\\n\\\nGen~v•\n•\"\nRassvill\n\\\nLA FA \"\nAlvi\n40°\"\ne\n~ .\n0\n,\n.. >\n-\n400\nQ\n46-6\n10\n(308)\nStatute\n0\nMiles\nPRICE 25 CENTS\n,0\n20\n92°\n6 E\n30\nso\nDate of magnetic information, : 947\nC9nsu!I Civil Aeron•\n•dministraUon\nNotices for changes o,c\nnronautical\ndata on this chart after -\n12, 1946\n70\n80\n91°\nso\n,00\n90\"(Joins359)\nuo\n100\n,so\n\"°\n'\"'\nCompiled at Washington. D. C. by the u ..5. Coast & Geodetic Survey under\nauthority of the Secretary of Commerce for civil aviation and by direction of the\n\"\"lmanding General. Army Air Forces, for the Aeronaut,c~I Chart Service,\nMARCK, 1945\nR;Jvised MAY. 1946\nBASE\nR l\nHO\nIlliopolis\n'80\n,so\n200\n~.\n~ _;\n,,,\nOana\n..\nT seal\nChrisman\n\"\nHammond\n(\n'\nno\n'30\n,so\n'60\n''°\n\"°\nNOTE:\nIt is requested that persons usin11 this chart indicate correction• ond\nadditions which coi;ne to thelr<attention and notify\n\"HIE DIRECTOR, U.S. COAST AND GEODETIC SURVEY, WASKINGTON 25. D.C.\"\n\"'\nDanville □\n300\n3'0\nu., co,n ••o o,oo,t« ,u,vn, w\"\"'\"••o•.\n'\"\" \"\"\n330\n340\n3SO\nN4000-Wssoo14ooxsoo\nSCALEl:1 000 000\nTHJRD 1{){fto>f\n360\n370\n380\nStatute 390\nMiles\nILLINOIS RIVER\nUNITED STATES\n~\n400\n(308)"
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   "text": "r\n•\nAEHO;-..;ACTICAL SY).lBOLS\nLANDPLANE FACILITIES\nSEAPLANE FACILll lES\nLANOPLANE BASE· MILITARY (COMPLEH FACOL!TJUi) -\n-\n-\n- 0\nSEAPLANE BASE MILITARY (coo,il'Ln\nF\"CU.ITIE ■) ___ @\nLANOPL/>.t!E 8-ASE • CIVIL\n(COMP LEU: PA<:JuT,n)___ _\n0\nSEAPLANE BASE· CIVIL\nITl£8)____@\nJ:j\nSEAPLANE SASE- JOINT MILITARY & C\n___@}\n(COMPL!:TE PACILITIES)\nLANDPLANE AIRPORT· CIVIL\n__ _\nSEAPLANE AIRPORT. MILITARY__ _\n-0\n--~\n(REFUELING & u,.,TEO RErAIR ..-ACILITIES)\n(REFUELING & !..IMlT£0 REPAIR FACE\nL E\")\nFLIGHT STRIP (UMITEO OR NO .....c,uTtU)\n__ (b\nSEAPLANE AIRPORT· CIVlL ____ _\n_@\n(REFUELING .. LIMIHO REP;.IR PACH.. ITlES)\nLANQlr,IG FJELD {LIM!T£0 011 NO FACll.!TIES OR LOGlSTIC ___ -+\nSEAPLANE AIRPORT JOINT MILITARY\nCl VIL\n_@>\nINFORMATION \"OT AVAILABLE)\n(\"EFUELt,.G & L!M!TEO \"EP,.IR FACIL,TEES)\nSEAPLANE EMERGENCY ANCHORAGE_J ____ _\n--t\n(L,MtTEC·O>! ><O FACILITIEII Olt\n~GIS'rlC ~•O~MAT>ON\n,-OT AV,.tLA8LE)\nTHE L[NG1H OF LONGEST RUNWAY IN FEET IS INDICATED BY THE INNER CIRCLE OF EACH SY+OL THUS\n0\n2500-3499\n(1'\n3,500-4499\nJ\n4500-54~9\n\"\n5500-6500\n•\nOVER 6500\n0\nLENGTH lNKNOWN\nLIGHTING FACILITIES\nJ_____\nAVIATION ROTATING BEACON__ _\nOBSTRUCTION Ll(;HT __\nAVIATION ROTATING BEACON WITH COURSE LIGHTS __ -·\";✓ NIGHTI IGHTING FACIL TY\nAV ATION ROTATING BEACON WITH CODE BE/ICON _\n--..:..*\nLIGHTS-- ­\n(>,0\"·01RECT10\"-'A')\n( 0 URHCE ~\"\n\"\nI\n'SA.c\\\nAVIATION \"LASHING BEACON_\n_J,\n-----*\nLIGHTSHIP\nf\n•\nAVIATION BEACON FLASHING CODE __ _\n---·-*\nF-f>~ed. Fl-llashtng. 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I \\\n3{)\n•1481\n'\n()\nT II\n1\n\"\nl~-13\n\"\n'\"'\n,.,\nl ,s\n71\n'\nI k 1592\n\"\n+\n1582\ni ,.,\n161\nl6lt.\n'\n,., [\nI\n~\n!666\n)f',61\n\"\n' '\nI I\nl?M\nd\n1735\n17D?\n1/01\n•\nS O, ney,\n\"\"\nl/$1\n11 £ D V ,. I I\n'\"'\n,s !\n1192\n\"\"\nA\n,.,,\n-P-\n\"\nms\n\"\n1706\nlJOO\n'\" ~_'\"__l\n1707\n\"\"\n60\nlJ\n,rn\n114,\nl7'2\nI\n\"'\nr\ni\"\n177l\n!167\n'\"\n'\"'\nI\n'\"\n1782\n1187\n\"\"\n1814\n1812\n!Bil\n,..\n170°\n\"'\nlJ\n140\"\nBO\nl20\n110'\n100\n80\n70\n60\"\n50\n40\n30'\n20\nO'\n10\n1743\nL\n\"\"\n1144 j\nj,\nms\n20'\n-=-=a\n,o•\n,.,\nl\"2\nl/4f\n50\n••1\n,..\nl/47\n1749\n16$,\n\"'\nl !\n10\n-..; JJ I\n\\\nST.H.H\nAn~,n ac I J__\nCo\n4%\n'\"\"\nI '\ns39\nm\n532\n-s\"\n\\VOl{Ll) AERONAPTICAL CII,\\-I{'r INDEX\nDRAll'\\AGE FEATl'RES\nRELIEF FE.\\TUHES\nS(';ale> of SPi:if's 1:1.000.000\nLARG! RIVER & STREAMS\nCl\\·11, l\nARTS 'l'T'l.Y\n(PE£NNAI>\nGLACIER\n~\nCONTOUR,• POT ElEV'''\"N\nC/.INAL\nAuthorized agents for th sale of aerona'utical chart have boon appointed at certain airports throughout\nthe United States for the distribution uf aeronautical charts. A fo1t of these agents, with the dates of latest\n,-_--, i\nI J\nprints of charts, will be printed from time to time in the Weekly Notice to Airmen. This information may also\nWASH&. INTERMITTENT STREAMS\n'-!70'ffi\nSU\nNAI\nSWAMP\nbe obtained from. the Director; U.S. Coast and Geodetic Survey.\n-\n.I\n/\nAPP'ROXlMJI.TE CONTOURS\nRequ.st• for chart TIHI) nl,;o hem, :I\ntu the D1n·ctor U S Coast ana GPorJ.,11c Surve), Washingt/\n;,\nSAND AREA llr SANO DUNES\nv·-\n, ­\nD. l\n01 t\" authorized d, l!!r,\nDRY LAKE\nMUI) OR TIDAL FLAT\n-~.;,_c;,\nA discount o U-1/3\nfrom full published prices is allowed on aeroniiutica! and auxiliary charts amoun ing\nDEPRESSION :ONTOURS\nto $10 gross when made in one shipment to one address. Charts are not returnable.\n\"'\"\n1--::_--.?0QO·­\n.;;;--.--~­\nDA-NGER CURVE\nTERMITTENT LAKE\n\"·•,,,•\"·•-,.,\ni)\n~\nBLUFF. CLIFF OR ESCARPMENT\n,.,.,,,,,____ ......\n'CHARTED ROCKS\n:IJILlTAHY CHART SUPPLY\ntRef: AAF Reg. 65-82. dated 26 Apr., 1944)\nI. Aeronautical charts, maps and publications distributed by Aeronautical Chart Service are indexed or Ii• t d in the\ncurrent edition of the AAF \"Catalog of Aeronautical Charts and Related Publicalions.\" Misc«llaneo\\l1' maps and chart not\nappearing in the Catalog will be procured and furnilihed by Aeronautical Chart Senicc through gpecial order. whfm 8llfficiPntl~\nidentified in rcqufaitions as to name or nu·mber, scale, projection, and publisher if known.\nt\nLARGE CITY\nCL-LTlTRAL FEATURES\n2. Iwquisitioning.\na. Outside Continental United States:\n(I) AAF activities are to submit reqlllsitions to the supply facility designated by the Theater\nCommander for msintenance and distribution of aeronautical charts and maps.\nI\ncny\neou:-.ioARY. S.t:\\1\nOR INTERNATIONAL\nBOIJ.NDARY, PARK OR RESERVATION\nRl\\lLROAO\nRAILROAD\nH•tULT[PI\nTRACKS)\nSeale 1:1.000,000 or 1 inch=] 5.8 mjles\n0\nllO\nKtlomettrs'\n(2) Theater supply fa\"ciliiies are to submit requisitions for replenishment of stocks of aero­\nnautical charts and maps through channels to Headquarters AAF, Aeronautical Chart\nService, Washington. D. C.\nb. Within Continental United States: Requisitions from AAF activities within Continental United States are to\nbe submitted to appropriate Regional Store as shoWil on AeronautiC1>i Chart Supply System geographic diagram in AAF\nOOR•\nTOWN OR VILLAGE\nPROMINENT LANDMARK\n<W•Tf< HP,ANATO--,\nSOTE)\n.9975\nDAM &­ DAM WITH .OCK\nHIGHEST ELEVATION ON CHART\n-+- -+- -t- -+­\nRAILROAD\nIABANOONrn,\nTUNNEL\nJRAILl<oAIII\nRAILROAD OVERPASS\n,0\n,0\n0\n0\n,0\n,0\n20\nso\n,0\n40\nso\n...\nso\n,0\nNautical Miles\nBO\nMotes\nAeronautics\\ Chart Catalog. Except when emanating from an Air Force, Wing, or Command Headquo.rters. requisitions are\nto bear the signature or approval by indorsement of the Base or Station Operations Officer. Quantities 6f charts and maps\nrequested are to be sur.h as to assure the maintenance of a 30-day ~\\1pply at all times but not to exceed a 60-dny supply.\nJ. Obsolete Charts.\nMINE OR QUARRY\nL OKOUl ·owER\n• 1540\n'\nSPOT =LEVATION\nRANGER STAflON\n\"\nFEE I\n+--+-fl-+--t-­\n---;§,1---­\nRAILROAD lll'iDERPASS\nHIGHWAY\nMAt\nII\nTEI•\na. Aeronautical :hart rendered obsolete-for-ail by a,re rised 'ldition, ,;..hen not prac1it:\"uble to cor ·ect for c nf\nwith new edition, are to be salvaged if feasible or else destroyed. D;ijposjtion by II Iv g or de~t Hction 1 to be m\n11ccordance with provision\nr380·5.\n:mity\n:J\nin\n•\nLOA T G\n'\nARD STATLON\nBRIDGE\nR\n('\n•\nRO E\nTUNN L\n-.,"
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   "text": "•\n• '\nI\n- ...:♦,..\nf .\nMr. Tolaou\n••\nL IUll(AU OF INY\nTIC Tin\n!\\Ir Ii:, A Tamm ••.\nIUAITIEJIT 01 JI\n_\nJllr. <'lei:g\nIGATIOls' •\nM,r, C::lavw\nMr l..udd ~\nl\\lr, Nie-hots ...•..•\n!\\fr. Rosp\n. ... .\n<.t \\l F -~~ /\nA,r. R 1947\n~ \"'...---Y\nMr. 1'r~y\n{\" <Y ~\nT~\n.\nv~\nMr. littan\nMr. Onntea\nlllr, Hulto ....\n\\ 4\nlllr. Mohr __\nMr,\n,/\nFBI SEATTLE\n8-6-47\n7-13 PM PST\nMr. KLS\n7\nMr.\n_53...~DIRECTOR FBI\nURGENT\n, SA w~z;:~:-,··.\nFLYING D_!§CS, s. M. - X. RETEL PORTLAND TO DIRECTOR\ntff\\v\n~ ~vv,\nAND SEATTLE AUGUST FIVE LAST.\nI NTELLIGENCE OFFICERS MCCORD FIELD,\nWN., ADVISE THAT IN THEIR\nd OPINION AND FROM THEIR INVESTIGATION\nTHERE IS NO QUESTION OF THE CRASH OF THE B- TWENTYFIVE AT KELSO, WN.\nI\nC APPROXIMATELY TWO FIFTY A. M. , AUGUST ONE LAST HAVING BEEN CAUSED\nBY ANY SABOTAGE.\nTHEY STATE THEIR INVESTIGATION INDICATES THE LEFT\nENGINE BURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH CAUSED THE WING TO BURN AND\n.\nBREAK OFF.\nTHE LEFT WING AS IT\nBROKE OFF TORE OFF THE TAIL AND\nTHE PLANE CRASHED INTO THE GROUND KILLING CAPT. DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN\nINTELLIGENCE OFFICERS OF THE FOURTH AIR FORCE WHO WERE RETURNING FROM\n-\n~\nMCCORD FIELD, WN., TO HAMILTON FIELD, CALIFIORNIA.\nTHE CREW CHIEF AND\nA HITCHHIKER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY FROM THE PLANE.\nONLY FOUR MEMBERS\nWERE ABOARD THE PLANE, DAVIDSON AND BROWN BEING PILOT AND CO- PILOT\nAND HAD NO CHANCE TO ESCAPE WHEN THE WING BROKE OFF.\nLT. COL. DONALD\nL. SPRINGER, A- TIIO AW\"';!:&~bJJ.;,~Fi THE FOURTH AIR FORfq\nHAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA, ADVISED-T ~AP'TAIN DA1.t;1DSSfN AND ~ROWN\nWERE SENT FROM HAMILTON FIELD TO INT~EW ltAROLD A lf::OAHL AND FRED\n.......\n--GRl_SMAN AT TACOMA, WN., REGARDING THEIR REPORT OF SEEIIING SOME FLYING\nDISCS OVER MAURY ISLAND, WN., AND THAT THEY Q~INED ;OME OF THE DISC\n~\nFRAGMENTS.\nCRISMAN AND DAHL ARE PARTNERS IN A LUMBIER BUSINEi!IS AT\nL} 2,_ COPIE~ r...,c-TROYED\nWAHINGTON.\n270\nNOV 18' 1964"
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   "text": ".\n,. ~.\n..\n...\n... ..,·\n.. ....\n. J\nUl\"\n•\n\\ .\n\\ •.\n_ ,.; III .! !.; .l ,. _ .\n·1 ·e ·:1\n.,.1.HJn:13s lVN~3lN:\n·di/~ IO 6 SI d."
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   "n": 26,
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   "text": "--\nIt\nPAGE TWO\nCAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN ON THURSDAY, JULY b\nTHIRTYFIRST\nLAST INTERVIEWED DAHL, CRISMAN, KENNET~NOLD, FROM BOISE, IDAHO,\nWHO WAS ONE OF THE FIRST THAT REPORTED SEENING FLYING DISCS AND EMIL\n.\nH.-SMITH, UNITED AIRLINES P.LOT FROM SEAT'fll).U, WN., WHO ALSO REPORTED\nSEEING FLYING DISCS.\nTHIS INTERVIEW TOOK PLACE AT THE •am WINTHROP\nHOTEL ON THE AFTERNOON OF JULY\nTHIRTYFIRST LAST. CAPTAIN\nDAVIDSON AND LT. BROWN WERE RETURNING TO HAMILTON FIELD FOR AIRFORCE\nDAY AND HAD WITH THEM SOME OF THE DISC FRAGMENTS AS REPORTED BY DAHL\nAND CRISMAN•\nIL\nREPORTER PA~NTZ OF TACOMA TIMES, AND UNITED PRESS\nWIREMAN TE\nELLO OF TACOMA, RECEIVED ANONYMOUS PHONE CALLS JULY\nTHIRTYFIRST AND AUGUST FIRST LAST REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP\nHOTEL OJIER THE DISCS FRAGMENTS AND THAT THE B- TWENTYFIVE WHICH\nCRASHED THE MORNING OF 11112 AUGUST ONE WAS -\nSABOTAGED OR SHOT DOWN•\nINFORMATION AS YET NOT VERIFIED INDICATED THE ENTIRE STORY STARTED BY\nDAHL AND CRISMAN POSSIBLY TO PROMOTE SALE OF SLAG FOUND IN A GRAVEL\nPIT ON MAURY ISLAND, WN.\nNO INFORMATION AVAILABLE AS YET AS TO THE\nIDENTITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL WHO MADE THE ANONYMOUS PHONE CALL TO THE\nTACOMA TIMES AND THE UNITED PRESS,\nDAHL AND CRISMAN WILL BE INTER­\nVIEWED AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.\nINVESTIGATION CONTINUING.\nWILCOX\nEND\n2--­\n11-33 PM OK FBI WA GH"
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   "n": 27,
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   "text": "..\n,- ~\n•\n~ECEIVED ·,ELEiYPf: utllT\n~UG 6 II 34 PM '~7\n=.0.1. CE?:. f.r JUSTIC~\n..\n.,.."
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   "n": 28,
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   "text": "~-\nt:1\ncc - 150\n•\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTI GAT\"..\nt,\nITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JU~\nE\n. ------\n\\\nAugust 14, 1947\nTO :\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION .\nSAC, Seattle\nURGENT\n...,_ ---­\nTransmit the fol lowing mes sage t o:\nREURTEL !UGUST TWELVE. IT IS HO•r~.D FRCJI INTERROGATI ON OF 1lU'hllITH,\nH clL, Vt A\nSYITH GLADIS THAT DURING '!HE CONFERENCE ON JULY THIRTY ONE THAT~L\nq~\nANUN:HRIS!.i!N Af PARENTLY REPEATED THEIR FALSE $T'.)RY AB0l11' THE l!A TERIAL\nBEING FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISC AND ONLY ON SATURDAY NIGHT AUGUST\nSECOHD DID DAHL AWIT THAT THE STORY WAS A HOAX. IF SOCH IS THE CASE\nIT WOULD APPFAR EITHER S\\!ITH ~\n\\\n:OLD ll.ADE THE ANONIKOUS PHONE CALLS\nSINCE THEY TlOULD HAVE BEEN UNDER THE IMPRESSION AT THAT TDlE THAT THE\ni!ATERIAL FURNISHED TO CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WAS ACTUALLY\nPARTS OF A FLilNO DISC.\nIT WOULD ALSO APFEAR 'L'H.AT DAHL AND CHRISMAN\nDID nar ID!IT THE HOAX TO THE ARMY I!rfELUGENCE OFFICERS BECAUSE IF Ti◄EY\nHlD DONE SO THE OFFICERS PROBABLY WOULD NOT HAVE TAKEN THE ALLEGED FRA<PlENrS\nWITH TKru ON THEIR FATAL FLICHT.\nTHI S IJATTER SHOULD Bi CLEARED UP UFON\nliEHlTERVIE.W WITH DAHL AND CHRISllAN.\nWHEN TlllS POINT CLlRIFIED NO FURTHER\n[NVFSTIGATION NECESSARY.\nHOOVER\n\"\nBEQOBJ)Jill1"
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   "n": 29,
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   "text": "-\n.\nf"
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   "n": 30,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p30.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 31,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p31.jpg",
   "text": "-, •\n•\nl!rs. Arthur Dou.ala11e Anderson\n16 1edbury Roa.d\nSp~ven, Ch.eotor, Pennaylv.:4nia\nClfl/q([,0ot!i'l:l Oear\nI\nfX-34\n• This 1'111 acknowledeo recoipt or ~ oi.1r lot.tor dated\nJuly 9, 1947.\n.\n.\n.Utor\ncare1\"ul reviw ot tho content.a or t.bis lot~r\nit\na ascertained th t t..'le info~ tion contalnod t.hGrein .wciitd\nprobabl,- be or int.erost to the War Oltp..rt11ent, t.heretore,\"'.J ~\no\ntake.'1 tt,e llbert.y or :tumishln;:: t.'lia inroma~l on t.o that a:enc.Y•\n...v\nYour interest in l11\"it1:n_z as ~OU did is ind.God p~~rY\n----~::-:::'i~ S1ncarelnof\n,\nt ~ y\nra • .Anderson:\n\\.,-, I ~uMCATIONs.;.sECTI0N\n{/\\I\n\\\nM A \\ L E D\n9\nJohn d{:ar !ioo-vor\n,\n}:;/ ~\nI\n~\n194k!~M,\nDirector ~~\nf(f\n1\nWVC:mjpf'!\\\n)\nI • J O ltlVES GATIO/\n! c - ~~<!.@li 1~''Jrl,.l'~•YJf!/I ( here is no identi!ifiable information in the Bureq.u\n-\n::zl!-,;iJ'_ 'l:'J ~~\nfiles concerning the writer of this letter. )\nThis letter referred to \"flying aauce s.\"·"
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   "n": 32,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p32.jpg",
   "text": "..\n.9:)f~'\nA .:11.J J. 3J S- t\nl D :J:)\nHaou 1 !'1 •UJM3:,\n3\n~"
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   "text": ". •;~ ': ~ •\n•\n/\ntJ\n-\n·~\n--~rt; L -~~\n~L ~\n'\n, ~\n_/4_,;\nA~\n·. 'ff/\n~ it~·'I\nJ~\n-\n~~~.~7X I\nf l r U'(.·I\nvJ J~"
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   "text": "\" ~j~~\n~~ ~\n~\n-\n.\n'-,,Y.A,,<'/.----Jf..A~~ ~ ~\n.r\n~\n•\n~~\n~ ~--,,----H--J~\n(\\~ ~~\nc~ .---7\"~~~\n/4es,IJ-G':'6'/ri'.ir11y1.s\ntt/flJ\"\"l,eF ,b/fm & .IfJ/E\n.\n/J I , A. J) fL-C:\n•\nI\n/f1~// ,t._,£ L?,.L ·/- N •f\":\nfCj_• /S.::t?..J /l-1uS~JLL£,.L,/, (Nd;,,l.1.S1b-;!,"
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   "text": "•"
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   "n": 36,
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   "text": ""
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   "n": 37,
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   "text": ",1 Ju #\n•\n'\\ ·g . j\n.,i.\\~{l::>:lS l~\\n.f3.l.W•\n11\n..1.·, v\\d 1.0 Z L\\"
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   "n": 38,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p38.jpg",
   "text": "__Mr.\n_Mr. Baumgardner\n__Mr.\n__Mr.\n_Mr. Brown\nND-6\nSECURITY DIVISION - FBI\nINTERNAL SECURI TY SECTION\nSTRICKLAND\nDeFORD\nSUPERVISORS\nAckerman\n__Mr. Howe\n__Mr. Jennings\nBlakesley\n_Mr . Jones\nBly\n__Mr. McAndrews\n__Mr . Meehan\n_Mr . Casper\n__Mr. Milnes\n__Mr . Collier\n_Mr. Power s\n__Mr. Costello\n_Mr. Ranstad\n__Mr. Donohue\n__Mr. Smith\n__Mr. Fletcher\n__Mr. Turner\n_Mr . Harvey\n_Mr. Whitson\n__Mr . Hayden\n_Mr. Winterrowd\n--.Mr .\n_MISS _________\n__.RECORDS SECTION\n__ROOM_________\n__Send file\n__Mrs. Dorset, 1736\n__Bring file up- to-date\n_Mrs. Walch, 1736\n__Flace on Record\n__Miss Arnold, 1742\n__Fl ace on Record and\n__Miss Niedjelski, 1649\nReturn\n__Typists, 1641\n__Indicate index reference\n__correct\n_...Please call me\n__Redate\n__Please see me\n---Note and return\n, '\nf7\nQ@\n,\n_..\n-R\"OOM-..-'/ -~¢w:;;:a&.._ _ _"
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   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p39.jpg",
   "text": ".."
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   "text": ",,\n;. ,\n.,\nI\nI./\nI\n-y'\nI\ny'\n~\nt1.\n..... '>\n<J\n,;- I.:,\n<i\"\nt\ny\n~ I/\n.\n'\nl:> \\ -r E\n~\nF o\nN LI If MA\ns. ()\nE.\n':> N E. N N\nTw 0\nAl\n3 v S 4-­\n:i.. I\n3\n'),­\nLI- s;\nI\n....\n)... 3\n4­\nI\n\\\nI\nR. c D\n0 f\n1-t V IV\\ A rJ\nt-J\n() tJ . s e:\nN S E\nW\n0\nN T\nI -y 3\n~ S\"'\n)\ny\n.3 t.J. r\nl:,\nI\n\")...\n~\nI\ny\n~ iJ. \\. ,..\n., ¥' '! /0\nI\n..... .3\ny. ':)­\nL -\nA ,\n't\nw ~\n.3\nt,,\\\n~\n()\n~\nT\n)..­\nC I\ns\nA\n'/­\nW\nl\nR\n3\nA\nV\nR u\n.,,\n!,, s\ns\n~\np\nI\nI\n)..\nl)\nLf\n~\n/ ()\nN\n'\n1\nI\ni\nT\n7.,\n'D\n'-I­\n!'I. ,\n.,:_\nE'\nI\n0\n3\n~ .\n~;\n/\\ WA\nI\n\\\n~ T\n0 \"\"\nI C\nvi A ~\nJ)\nI ..s\nr...\nI) .\nN Lr\n0\nR D l: ~\nV' 3 i/_\n)\nl\n'),,\nj\nV\n~ i\nI\ny\nI\ny\n~ i.1­\nI\n'y , l,J. s­\n~\nI\n'V 2,\nIJ. .{ -\n\\.. A .S 0 R\n.S T E '{ MS\n5 C\ns T f: \"'\n'{ L F tJ I ~\n5 \\<.\nI D ..s\n3\n\"I\nI .. s\n..,\n(.\nLl\n' I ....\n~ ,;­\nI\n'2­\nI > If V\n?.\n)...\nI s­\n'f­\n(p\n'I­\n3\n:,\ni\nL. ~­\n~ 0\nI...\nA\n{<.\n.s ~ s i\nI= Ni\n5\n()\ns ~ fv T\nF Ji.. y\nI\n{I/ 6­\n.D /\n5\nt.... ..s\nI\n-./\n~\nI\n-v­\n;\nLI\nI ,....\n~\nI\nV\nI\ny\n~ I{. ~\nI\n.,...\n~ 'I­ s-\nI\n~,,.\n~ ,,t ~­\n':D A rJ\nWL\nL\nES '\nL1 p\nw' L D R:I>\n1) R E o R\nN c ~ , U l>\n1--3\nI\n'3\n)...\n..J\n2.\nI\n3,\nI\n)_\n3 ¥­\n'),.­ ~­\nIf\n}.,\nI\n3\n~­\n'f I\n!{'\n).. ~\nPr\nrJ !'\nw\nI\nI- L\n.5 E T\nLI p\nw 0\nR.\nL\nD\n0\nR :J>\nE\nR.\nl.J\nrJ 1) (;;.\nr2\nl\n\"v 3 t+ ~­ \" 7 i'\nl\ny\n,, 'I­\nI\n,_..\n~\n~\n\\\n\"I,.,\n~\n~\n:r\n4\nI•\n(\nR\n;\nMA N\nI v\nl\nIt\n(.,\nS\n'&\nT\n4­\n€' 1'l\n3 -\nI\nL\ny-\nI+\n'+­\nl\nI\ns .,..\n~ s\nA p..\n1\n'+­\n'(\nI\nIi -­\nM\nA\n-p.\nT\nI\nA rJ .S\nLAT E\nT H­\nI\n5\n'{ E A ("
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   "text": ""
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   "n": 42,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p42.jpg",
   "text": "COUNTY\nIRRITANT\nlrom our Mail lox\nEE::E::::r::::: - -\n=······-···-+i±±ei\nulling for Decoders\na~11mo1e About nine at night\n011 July -Ith I recei,ed the follow­\nIng shortwa,e me,,:,age in code,\norigin unknown. I kept listening,\nonct ahoul an hour later the mes­\nsage wa~ repeated letter for letter.\nI can't figure out what It means,\nbut lWl'e It ls;\nDITEH 1-\"0 NUHMA SOESNENN\nTWON I.ATWA !.IOTCIA WRA\nRl'SPIDCXIT DREOR\nLASOR\nSTEYMS\nSO\nSTEN\nYLI-WG\nsi.ro.s llAN\nWLIL EST UP\nWI.Olm DREOR NERUO TIR­\nM.\\NAS TEAL HIST ARYE.\n-Radio Ham.\n(Nt-ilher ran we. but we hope lt'a\nlegal. Ed.)"
  },
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   "n": 43,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p43.jpg",
   "text": "patt m wl ·ch other\nigl1t do well to copy,\n·d l1crc in pictures.\ntra's president, J)r.\ncostuming by J11aki11g\nanikin doll. I lei col­\n:spccial interest in the\n.ly-assorted \"\n·n a~ \\J\ny studied and hi\\tori­\n1 but fa~hionjhlc 1.idy\ntanding, giving p.iins­\ns c01fforc was !>hO\\\\ n\nho,,·n below, doon't\n·arranged to the ~t)le"
  },
  {
   "n": 44,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p44.jpg",
   "text": ".;-:q 21, l\n7\nECORDED\n~,;; -\n;- _; F,tJ~- &?IY\n.~~. A. o. Snrbhnis\n/'\n66 ·otro Dnne Al\"ettuo\nfticks-villo, Long Iclnnd,\n'ar, York\nDcnr Ura. Sarba.\"li.s,\nI wish to a.c~·noulodge receipt of your lotter and anclotl:iro dated\nJuly 10, 1947.\nI have i.notructed tho Special A03nt in ~e of our .cm York OJ\"tice\nt.o havo a Spocinl A.cent oall. t:Pon you tor- tho purponc of' obtaininc 1\\J~bor\ninfornation in camcct.ion v!.th :tb!s r-.attor.\n?oar intcreat. in calling tbis info:rcntion to r!f1 att tion io inaood\nnpprecintad.\nSincerely- youro,\nJohn\nRoovor\nDirector\ncc - Novr York (With ~\n•\nThere is no idcntii'iablo j.n.fomation in the\n.files ·or't~e B.ircau concerning the m-it er of this letter.\nTho\ndocoding of the oeasage on the nC1f8Pa,cr c~lp;;ing w,s r2fcrrcd\nto the Laborator-.r, who subsequ8Iltly advised that the writer's\ndecodinc; was substantially correct.\nThero is beinG set forth\nbol0':7 tho ro:ru.l.ts or tho Laboratory's decoclinc:\n\"TIRED OF 1-.tUW.ll NOJ:SErSE l\":01-Pr AUA!T ATOl:.ITC\nl'lAR DISRUFTI m ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM 5':) s:NT\nFLYII:G DISl'S AlID iTILL SCT UP WORLD ORDER\ntrnmn ~RTIA'l'S UTE Tll1S YEA~.\n<'\"'1\n~-\n~\ne....."
  },
  {
   "n": 45,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p45.jpg",
   "text": "....\nM\n.M.«t ,im !\" S JU[ .,.\n, .\nr .. -\n►\nitOllAat11]Vl!I l~ U• • !ti 1•Ai0)l\ni.'1112~1 ltJ I .. J.IJIA\n,\nI"
  },
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   "n": 46,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p46.jpg",
   "text": "---\nSTANDARD F'ORM NO. 6C\n•\n•\nOffice Memoran~um • ' ·uNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nTO\n;m. E . A . TAJa:V\nDA.TB: August 15, 1947\nllr. Tolson\nFROM\nlfR • D . J.f . LADD\n111'. E.A. ~\n:: g~:~n ­\nllr. Ladd=--\n~-_-_-_\nllr. Ntchois\nSUBJECT:\nwr; Rosen -­\nllr. Tracy-­\nMr. carso-n -­\nllr. Egan=-_ -_ -_-\n_\nMr. Ournea\nllr. Harbo -­\nThe Director advised on Aunust 14, 1947, that\nllr. IIOhr_-r.,-,,.-=-- _\nthe Los Angeles papers ~ere carrying headlines indicating\n: : ~rr:~,!:-\nTele. Room\n­\nllr. Nease -­\nthat Soviet espionage afents had be~ ~ instructed to\nMtss Ho~\nlltss()andy ­\ndetermine ·i;he Jacts relative to the-j'lyin g disc§_.\nThe\narticle carried a ifashington date line and indicated\ntnat ded espionage agents rad be~n ordered to solve the\nquestion o/ the /lying discs, the Russians being OJ ·the\nopinion that this might be some nez1J form OJ Cefense prefected\nby -the American Military .\nThe ar\"ticle J urth.er recalled that\nduring ·1,ne recern i ar pieces oj' tin J oil had been dropped\nin ·the air /or tre purpose OJ off setting the value o.f radar\nbeing used b~ the enemy Jorces an, that these aluminum discs\nmight be a new develo,rnent along ·this line .\n:i.'he Director\nir,quired as to IJ!hettter the Bureau had any such information .\nI informed him the& I had never heard of any\ninformation indicating t~at Soviet espionage agents had been\nins-i;ructed to obtai,n such in/orma·iion .\nA check witr the officiaJ.s at G- 2 , OllI and at the) oJ ~J 'I\nAir Corps lntell igence u)as made and it ·as J'ound -chat they\nt~t.f \\\nhad no information relative to such a sto r y .\nY-\nIn accordance with 1,he Director ' s inst r uctions , I\n~\nadvised !'r . lvichols char; in the event any inc.tuiries\nA!T\"e\nmade concerning such~ sr;ory,\n1,hat the story should be\nflatly denied in so J'ar as the FBI i as concerned .\n,,,_\nDliL : i'A\n,&i!.:,M_;-!i_!,f.­\nRECORDED\n.:f::,\nD\nI\n3 2 AUG 19 1947"
  },
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   "n": 47,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p47.jpg",
   "text": "•\n/\nj\n\\,J1S\n-· ,\\.US\n..\n1"
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   "n": 48,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p48.jpg",
   "text": "STANOAM> POftM NO. &l\n'\nOffice Memorandum '~ UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nTO\nD. M.\nDATE: August 18, 194?\nFROM\n:\nE. G.\n:5{ SUBJECT:\nReference is made to your telephonic conversation with the\nDirector on Wednesday of last week, at which time the Director advised\nthat Los Angeles papers carried under a \\,ashington date line an article\nindicating the Soviet esaonage agents in the Unite~ States are under\ninstruction to solve the flying discs.\nSuch instruct~ons were believed\nto be based on the assumpt-ton tnat tne flying discs were a secret weapon\nof the Anny or Navy.\n'Ihe article attributed the source of its information\nto a Federal investigative agency.\nPursuant to your instructions, liaison representatives have contacted\nthe Headquarters of 1!:i.litary Intell igence, the Headquarters of the Air Forces\nIntelligence, Office of Naval Intelligence and CIG. All agencies denied any\nknowledge of the flying discs, as well as any knowledge of the basis for this\narticle.\nEGF:OME\nRECORDED\nEX-29\n30CT 2"
  },
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   "n": 49,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p49.jpg",
   "text": ".\nfi~c1:-1v1:·o\nHE.GE. IV~1.1-hI\\, t1 i) L~\nl.14,soN ,. .\nFBI\no,,c25\nvt:,:r,o\"\n1· , !.)i:?T OF JUSf1L:c\nI J.2 ,011 't/;\nAue t8 5 22 PM '~7\nF 4·\n'LF:·\n~,\n-Pl. (JJ.' l\n..\n.., 1S ,1c 1:\n-.\n.....,\nft:\n<)\n\" --~ '!~ (;.;·\n,_,.,\n(':t, '-~\nt..( ·.\n; t )\n,._,\n'v\n'·>·\n/ ...\n!3\n~ ~\n. :;:-\n,..,.,\n(J.7.'\n.....1..::..\\,t\n..J\ni •\n•\n­"
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   "n": 50,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p50.jpg",
   "text": "DATE:\nblind memorandum setting\nr elative to the reported air crash of two AAF officers\nIt is recommended that a copy of this memorandum be\nTO\nMr. D. M. Ladd aft-\nFROM\nUr . J . P. Coyne~\nSUBJECT:\n1 LTING DISCS\nThere are attached two copies of a\nforth the facts\ninvestigating flying disc complaints.\nffi:CC,...:MENDATION\nby the Ll.aison Section t o the Air Force Intelligence.\nAttachment\nRGF:mjp"
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   "n": 51,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p51.jpg",
   "text": ".. -"
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   "n": 52,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p52.jpg",
   "text": "SUBJECT: 4\nBUREAU\nDATE: 8-23•47\nc, PORTLAND\nI.,YINQ DISCS\nSECURrrY MATI'ER - X\nThe following investigation was conducted at Canyonville and\nMyrtle Creek, Oregon on August 12, 1947.\nRAY VIRG~TFIELD, Route 1, Box 195, Roseburg, Oregon, operator\nof the Tri City Airport, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, advised that on 8-6-47 at\napproximately 6115 PM while instructing a student in a take off at the airport,\nhe noticed an object east of Myrtle Creek which appeared to be from 5,000 to\n8,000 feet in the air. The sky was completely clear and visibility was\nexcellent. He stated that the object glistened and appeared to be of aluminium\nsheeting. Upon noti cing it he had immediately taken over the controls of the\nplane which at that time was at 400 feet, and proceeded East in an attempt to\nfurther observe the object. He advised that the object appeared to be\nclimbing and traveling East at a high rate of speed which he estimated on a\ncomputer in his plane as 1,000 miles per hour. He believed the object to be\nspherical in shape and recalled noticing a darker object to the right the first\ntime he saw it. He observed no vapor trails nor did he hear any noise from the\nobject. After s~arching the area for approximately 10 minutes HATFIEID and\nhis student NOBLEl'ELLISON returned to the airport and made another landing and\ntake off. In practically the same position at 400 feet altitude, both ELLISON\nand HATFIELD saw the object in approximately the same position as seen before.\nHe estimated the sphere to be 30 feet in diameter and stated when they first\nobserved it it appeared to be so near he could fly right to it. However, the\nobject sighted the second time disappeared in the same manner as the first had.\nIt is noted that HATFIELD served as a Lieutenant JG in the U. S. Naval\nAir Corps for about 3½ years, flying constantly on the Atlantic submarine patrol.\nHe is a reputable citizen in Douglas County and is reported to be a quali fied\npilot.\nMr. NOBLE ELLISON, Myrtle Creek, Oregon, verified the above information\nas furnished by HATFIELD, stating that the first object sighted had been\ncalled to his attention when HATFIELD took over the controls of the plane at\nabout 400 feet following his take off, but that they had both sighted the\nobject on the second take off at the same time. ELLISON described the object\nas a \"silver ball or balloon\" which he believed to be 8 miles east of Myrtle\nCreek, traveling East, and climbing very fast until it disappeared in approximately\n45 seconds. ELLISON estimated the sphere as being 50 feet in diameter and\nstated in his opinion the second obj ect appeared to climb straight up.\n3SEP\n\"✓✓\n\"'\nRECORDEJ) 0 J- _\n, lt-jf\nJ:}XED\n~OPIES DESTROJ!:\n-\n270\nNOV 181964"
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   "n": 53,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p53.jpg",
   "text": "t\n•"
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   "n": 54,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p54.jpg",
   "text": "•\n'\nHe advised that he did not observe any evidence of motion such as\nvapot or trails, etc. and could hear no noise over the noise of hie\nown ship.\nInvestigation in the vicinity of Myrtle Creek, Oregon, has\nfailed to reveal any other person sighting the objects reported by\nHATFmLD and ELLISON.\nNo further investigation is being conducted.\nPJMaMB\n62-1531"
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   "n": 55,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p55.jpg",
   "text": "._ '·F~ERAL BUREAU OF INVESTI .\nION\n_________><__>________1947\n_ _ The Director\n_\nMr . Tolson\n___Mr. Ladd\n__Mr. Rosen\n_Mr. Clegg\n_Mr. Glavin\n__Mr. Nichols\n__Mr. Pennington\n__Mr. Quinn Tamm\n_ _ Mr. Tyler\n_Mr.\n__Mr.\nCoyne\nFletcher\nMr. Laughlin\n__Mr. McCabe\n__Mr. Mohr\n_\n_ Mr. Nease\n__Records Section\n_ _ Stamp and mail\n__Prepare tickler\n_ _ Call file\nand return\n__Miss Gandy\n__Miss Gray\n_Miss Lyon\n_Miss. Artley\n:f\ndwa '\n'.A. Tamm\nJ • 5734"
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   "n": 56,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p56.jpg",
   "text": "j\n•"
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   "n": 57,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p57.jpg",
   "text": "•\n,,,.\n>\n!\n..\nLB\nFBI BUTTE\n8-20-47\n3-22 PM\nvb!RECTOR\nURGENT\nFLYING DISCS.\nBETWEEN NINE THIRTY A~INE FORTY FIVE PM LAST NIGHT,\nAUGUST NIMETEENTH, MR . AND MRS . H. H. HEDSTROM , THIRD AVENUE NORTH,\nTWIN FALLS, IDAHO, WHILE SITTING ON THE FRONT PORCH WITH MRS . HENRY\n/2HULTZ, OBSERVED AN OBJECT RESEMBLING A FLYING SAUCER TRAVELING VERY\nRAPIDLY FROM THE SOUTHWEST TO THE NORTHEAST SECTION OF THIS CITY.\nABOUT\nTEN MINUTES LATER, ALL OF THESE INDIVIDUALS SAW TEN SIMILAR OBJECTS\nPROCEEDING RAPIDLY IN THE SAME DIRECTION IN THE FORM OF A TRIANGLE.\nAS THIS GROUP OF OBJECTS WAS ABOUT TO DISAPPEAR IN THE OVERCAST SKY,\nTHREE OF THE OBJECTS ON THE LEFT FLANK PEELED OFF AND PROCEEDED IN A\nNORTHERLY DI RECTION .\nTHE REMAINING OBJECTS IN THE TRIANGULAR FORMATION\nJ APPEARED TO CLOSE RANKS AND CONTINUE IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION .\n~EE TO FIVE MI NUTES LATER THESE INDIV~LS\\ SAW 1ANOTHER MIUPHIC GROUP\n\\ ii'THREE OBJECTS PROCEEDING IN ~.'3\\!)l'ff ~~&'):- AGAIN I~ THE SHAPE %\n~RIANGLE.\nTHREE TO FIVE MINUTES LATER !ToFORMANTS OBSERVED ANOTH~\n~ GROUP CONSISTING Ot• FROM FIVE TO SIX OBJECTS, AGAIN IN TRIANGULR\n~\\.~FORMATION, PROCEEDING RAPI DLY IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECrfJN.\nA FEW\nMINUTES LATER A LARGE GROUP OF OBJECTS ESTIMATED AT Bi\\kEN THIRTY FIVE\nAND FIFTY FLEW OVER THE CITY: IN A NORTHEASTERLY DIRECTION, AGAIN IN\n~ Jc /\n0c~ ~\n' J.._~.v\n.L\ni"
  },
  {
   "n": 58,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p58.jpg",
   "text": "•\n...\n'"
  },
  {
   "n": 59,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p59.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nPAGE TWO\nTRI ANGULAR FORMATI ON.\nBETWEEN TWENTY AND TWENTY FIVE MI NUTES AFTER\nTHE LAST GROUP WAS OBSERVED, SIMI LAR OBJECTS WERE NOTED COMING BACK\nOVER THE CITY VERY RAPIOLY AND PROCEEDING IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTI ON.\nAT THIS TIME INFORMANTS STATED THE OBJECTS APPEARED IN GROUPS OF THREE,\nFIVE AND SEVEN.\nAT THIS POINT MRS. HEDSTROM CALLED DETECTIVE RICHARD\nFRAZI ER OF THE TWIN FALLS PD , A NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, WHO ACCOMPANIED BY\nM. E. ROUNDTREE AND RICHARD SCOTT, ALSO MEMBERS OF THE TWIN FALLS PD,\nPROCEEDED TO THE HEDSTROM HOME WHERE THEY OBSERVED A GROUP OF TWELVE\nOBJECTS FLYING IN FORMATI ON OVER THE CITY IN A SOUTHWESTERLY DIRECTION.\nINFORMANTS , ALL REPUTABLE CITI ZENS THIS COMMUNITY, UNABLE TO ESTIMATE\n-\nHEI GHT OF OBJECTS OR SPEED, BUT CLAIMED THEY RESEMBLED ILLl.JNJNATED\nn YING SAUCERS .\nTHESE INDIVIDUALS WERE OF THE OPINI ON THAT THE OBJECTS\nOBSERVED WERE NOT THE LANDING LIGHTS OF AIRPLANES NOR SH~ING STARS.\nNONE OF THESE OBJECTS WERE SEEN TO COME TO EARTH NEAR TWIN FALLS AND\nNONE APPEARED TO BE FLYING IN AN ARC .\nNONE OF THESE OBSERVERS HEARD\nANY SOUND AS THE .._ ABOVE OBJECTS PASSED OVER THE CI TY.\nINVESTI GATION\nCONTINUING IN LINE WI TH BUREAU INSTRUCTI ONS CONTAINED BUREAU BULLETIN\nNO. FORTY TWO, PARAGRAPH B, DATED JULY THIRTY LAST.\nIN EVENT BUREAU\nIN POSSESSI ON OF ANY I NFORMATI ON CONCERNING EXPERI MENTAL ACTIVITIES ON"
  },
  {
   "n": 60,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p60.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n\\\\\\l\n'. L\\ \\\\ oi ~ •. •\n.,\n~c:r.\\\\~'\n;;\n-1\n~\n,.. • ,,\nRECElVF\"'l\n... r. r ~IV£ •\n•·:p 29 3 1e PM • •••\nINTERNAL SECURln\nF. B.I.\n\" ~P 1.:~ 1r·\n..\n.."
  },
  {
   "n": 61,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p61.jpg",
   "text": "I\nPAGE THREE\nPART OF ARMY AIR FORCES WHICH MAY EXPLAIN THESE PHENOMENA, ADVICE WOULD\nBE GREATLY APPREC IATED.\nIT IS BELI EVED CONTI NUED APPEARANCE OF SUCH\nOBJECTS WI THOUT OFFICIAL EXPLANATI ON MAY RESULT IN HYSTERI A OR PANIC\nTWIN FALLS, I DAHO.\n\\\\I\nBAN ISTER\nACK AND HOLD PLS\n5-31 PM OK FBI WASH DC WJR\nI"
  },
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   "n": 62,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p62.jpg",
   "text": "f{ l.; CEl\\'EO T~LETY?E Ulfff\nJs11:::\n..\n. .\nJ.,l..; - ~.\n\\·a·~\n·, i.\\~03'3S 11Mli3lNi\n: \\'t\\d9't £ \\il d::,"
  },
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   "n": 63,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p63.jpg",
   "text": "•\n~25, 1947- UBOD!\nSAC BUTT!:\nRXTDBIU IIQUIRDS AT AJIII AIR l'ORCIS D'BAL ftft •o RIS!GCB\nOB UPDDCDTS VERI llIJIO COIDU(;ml) ~y AD II TD ncDITt OY !VII .,AI:LS, IDAJIO\n'1'D JnDT YOUR SOURCl8 ll TD ARMY, IAff OR\nJlOOYD\n• a. ,,..\n•\nFLYIIiG DISCS.\nOJI ell .A.'800'1' ADa08T lliitm. D\nAIR :nmcES DJ>ICAB OfBIBWial MJfISI BUDAU PB<IIPl'LY.\nRECORDEP (pi -\n/, ~ ,, / ✓1 i J\nBQl':fi f.X-30\n194 Ji/rsDESTROYED\n270 N0V181964"
  },
  {
   "n": 64,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p64.jpg",
   "text": ",,.\n•\n1 •\nq ,.,_..,.... HO. 64\nI\nOffice Memoranc!um • UNITED sTATEs GOVERNMENT\nTO\nD. M.\nDATE: August 22, 194?.\nFROM\nE. G.\nSUBJECT:\nOFLYING DI cs\n1\nReference is made the teletype from the\ntte Field Division\ndated August ZJ, 1947, in the above captioned matter.\n~-'\nMr.\n&le,\n-\n­\nIn accor dance with your request, th1.s matter ,ras chocked 'lllth\n: ~\nArmy Air Forces.\nLieutenant Colonel George D. Garrett, Jr . , advised\n~G\nSpecial Agent F. P. Orif!ee that extensive inquiries ,rltb'-.<;he Anny Air ~-\n­\nForces r evealed that no research or experiments wore being conducted by\nthe\n..F in the vicinit.r of '.l\\7in Falls, Idaho on or about .. ugust 19, 1947.\nr,olonel Garrett stated that he had no infonnation which would throw any\nlight on the matter reported in the teletype•\n•\nACTION\nIt is suggested this memorandum be routed to the Internal security\n,,\nSection to the attention of Supervisor Fletcher.\nt --\n-ti' ­\nHECORDEO\n\" ,\n'-l\nu­\n0...-\nEX-30\n~("
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   "n": 65,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p65.jpg",
   "text": "•\nt"
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   "n": 66,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p66.jpg",
   "text": "cc - 160\n~DERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGAT-\ni •\nLi..._____,fED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\nAUJu.>r!' .3(,:-1Y47\nURGWT\nTO :\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION.\nSACS SAJ; FRA CISCO MT\"D PHOENIX\nTransmit the following message to:\nREPORT OF amm DISCS ._JB SANF !!E1JO AUGUST 1\\'JElfTY EIGHT LAST CONCBRunn\nI+\nIN'l'rnVIfl7 WITH ~ES, PHOJ:mX, ARIZONA.\nSAl F JJlVISE A- NO AIR\nFmCE f OT N!CliSSARY FOR FUGATE TO PROCEED '.1'0 :PHOFNll, THAT BURF.AU WILL WJJDLE\nDJl' 'RVIFll IF Dl!SIRED, llJT JOINT INVFSTIGATION lroT DEE!.iF'1) IJECESSAP.Y. IF FUGATE\nPROCEID5 PltlFlITX IN SPITE -OF ABJVE, ADVISE Hill lOU ARE tm AUTHORIZED TO cot.~\nDUCT JO!fiT n VES'!'IGATION AND IiOT POSSIBLE FOR FUGATE TO SIT Ilt ON INTmvm;;\nIt\nl'1ITH ~ES.\naoovm\nJ( )/1\n0 ►\nlit.-!\nI\nRE\nQED\nh\n{,\n[r-;,·~F7..1XED\n'vf•&(\nI iJ\nI\n'\n-\nIJ#/1 210\nfWt.dAL Blll!EAU OF 11.VEST,aAllOf ~/ /:1;\n•S, DEPAffTllf£tlT Of JUST CE:\n-\nCDMMUHICATfONS SECTION"
  },
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   "n": 67,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p67.jpg",
   "text": ". ;10 l\naHOITAUIT1liMMOO\n:OT\nLil~ rid ss z 67 d3~\nU;:i d3:l3li\no:\n~et\n...., ...,...,,,.. '\n~· • '3J3T\n1\n'\nI VO~ 0 \\' ~\n_ p.IV Tift.Ia"
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  {
   "n": 68,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p68.jpg",
   "text": "STANoA.Ao FORM NO. 64\n•\n, .\nOffice Memoran~um • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n•\nDirector\nDATE: September 5, 1947\nSAC, Portland\nSUBJECT: Orr.YING DISCS\nSECURITY MATTER -\nX\n.\n~eference is made to my teletype dated August 15, 1947 advising that\na Mr. J~T of Agate Beach, Oregon had reported on August 7, 1947 that he\nsighted what he believed to be a disc. Mr. JOHN BARTL, instead of BARI'LErI', now\nr esiding in Newport, Or egon was interviewed by Special Agent ROBERT J . PETI'YJOHN.\nMr. BAR1'L stated that on August 7, 1947 he was residing at Agate B~ach, Oregon and\nthat his house was very near the ocean beach; that at about 12:30 A. M. he was\nawakened by his son coming in and that while awake he noticed a bright glow of\nlight across the sky out over the ocean.\nHe stated that he immediately thought of\nflying discs and thought this might be one of the discs.\nMr. BARrL went on to say that he had no idea as to the shape or size of\nthis object but that it appeared to be about five miles out over the ocean and\nthat he was able to see it for about 15 t o 30 seconds.\nHe further stated that\ndue to the darkness he could tell nothing about the speed of this object but thought\nit was traveling a great deal faster than any airplane he had ever seen.\nHe\ninfonned that this glow of light was somewhat similar to 1'l'he Northern Light 11 which\nsometimes appears in the sky but of course not nearly as large and that it appeared\nto be going up and down, that is fluctuating in altitude as it traveled along. He\nstated it disappeared in the west, either falling into the ocean or disappearing\nover the hor izon. He could give no other information concerning this object of\nlight reported by him as possibly being a flying disc.\nMr. BARI'L has an Agate and\nMyrtlewood shop in Newport.\nµ\nRJP/es\n,~\n:.J\n'~~;,,fv11lf~\n/\nmE\"µ/"
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   "n": 69,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p69.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nt\nt\nn\ntJ,, NVosOJ §/ d,\nNo,, '1:15: Nos,,,,.,\n0:i/!f3J:11:1"
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   "n": 70,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p70.jpg",
   "text": ". ,,\n-\n,\n, ..\nRFA'\\J,t'\\%.2- ?$' 3gqJ,, _ 11/\"bfr 3\n6 1947\nJira .\n• ~:'~11,0:0\n417 Eao~ ~iooenaon St~eet\nFlorence, Alabat\"lG\nDear lJrb . Vtllia11UJ:\n89-X3\nTour lettor oj AUgUDt 18, l947., iwo bau,\"l\nrDcetuod, and I an noat qpprcciattuc o.f tho thouuht­\n.fulnaa whtch pronptea y¢u ~o cot'l.'lun,catc ~tth mB.\nFor your injor'QQ.tion, no rsoard Ma been oj/crcd bV\n,...._,.any u. s. Goucr11ment Agency for the loca'tion o/\n~'!f.lytn1\naaucero.\" I regret that I am unable 'to bs\nof aoa atc:mce in thlo tnatanca.\n1incerely youro,\nJohn Edgar Hoover\nDtr.ector\nJ\nI"
  },
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   "n": 71,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p71.jpg",
   "text": "'\n.. .\n.-.,.\n:l~I\nt l)(J!:!\nl\n' '"
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   "n": 72,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p72.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 73,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p73.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 74,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p74.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 75,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p75.jpg",
   "text": "~\n• .\n~•~ UNITED ~\nTES GOVERNMENT\nDATE: Au.gust 20., 1947\nTo\n'): Director, FBI\nF~: SAC, Spr:ingfield\nsuJ;;; /FL'YillG DISC\nReference is made to Bureau Bulletin Mo. 42., Series 1947., dated\nJuly 30, 1947 re the above.\nFor the Bureau' s :information a .Mrs. ~ANDERSON of Saybrook,\nIllinois reported to this office the finding of a flying disc\nin her front yard at 6:00 A.M. on July 26, 1947.\nIt appears from investigation conducted by an Agent of this\noffice that the stability of JUNE ANIEBSON is questionable.\nH<Yr·r­\never the alleged f~g disc was obtained and it is apparently\nthe concoction of some of the juveniles in the area.\nIt is an\nold wooden pl.atter, which has assembled on it a silver plate, a\nspark plug, a timer., and sone ol d bt-ass tub:ing.\nPhotographs\nwere taken of the sane and there are six views enclosed herewith.\nNo doubt this was someone's idea of a prank.\nThe disc is present'.cy- being ret ained by the Springfield Office and\nwill be :retained pending receipt of Bureau advice relative to its\ndestruction. The thought :in retaining it was that perhaps the\nBureau might desire to have it transmitted to Washington for any\nnovel value it might hav~.\nfj{ 56\nJBP:hg\n62-0- 1445\nEno. (6)"
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   "n": 76,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p76.jpg",
   "text": ".."
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   "n": 77,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p77.jpg",
   "text": "------\n•\nI\n•\n•"
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   "n": 78,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p78.jpg",
   "text": "Enclosure - To Bureau\nPhotographs of ''Flying Disc\" found\nat S~hrook, Ill. 7-26-47\nSI File 6a-0-1445"
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   "n": 79,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p79.jpg",
   "text": ""
  },
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   "n": 80,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p80.jpg",
   "text": "1'F:cying DisC 11\n·8 iS\nFolllld Saybrook, Ill. 7- 26-47"
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   "n": 81,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p81.jpg",
   "text": "•"
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   "n": 82,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p82.jpg",
   "text": "11F4'ing Disc \"\nFound Saybr ook., Ill. 7- 26-47\n\\"
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   "n": 83,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p83.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 84,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p84.jpg",
   "text": "\"F'.cy'ing Disc\"\nFound Saybr ook, Ill. 7- 26-47"
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   "n": 85,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p85.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 86,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p86.jpg",
   "text": "\"Flying Disc 11\n~ 8 l S\nFound Saybrook, Ill. 7-26-47"
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   "n": 87,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p87.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 88,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p88.jpg",
   "text": "''FJ.¥ing Disc\"\nFound Saybrook., Ill. 7-26- 47"
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   "n": 89,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p89.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 90,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p90.jpg",
   "text": "\\\n1tF'4'ing DisC 11\nFound Savrbrook, Ill., 7-26- 47"
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   "n": 91,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p91.jpg",
   "text": "t\n,..\nSAC, Springfield\nSeptember 5, 1947\nDirector, FBI\nFLTINO DISC\nRECORDED\n1/\n~ )jS\nWith reference to your letter, dated August 20, 1947, it is desired\nt-4'\nthat you contact the appropriate Ar,q otfici&le and 1n the event the;r are not\ninterested in receiving thie alleged fiying disc, it ma7 be destro,-ed.\nRGF:LH\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION\nMAILED 10\n* SEP 6- 1947 P.M.\nD~L BUREAU Of 111vESTl6ATIOII\nFu.s. OEPARTMENT ot ,us11c~"
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   "n": 92,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p92.jpg",
   "text": ".\n.\niltllAL BUREAU Of INVESTIGATION\n/\n\\ l\nm\nV, 8, DEPART~Etff OF JUSTICE\nCOMMUNICATl~~S~fECTION\nSEP ~947\nTELETYPE\n•\nt-rr.: .i\n-\n- .....\n. \")\nFBI PORTLAND\n9- 4-47\n3-42 PM PST\nKAM\n~ECTOR\nURGENT\nRP FLYING DISCS .\n'A MRS. RAYMON~UI, OSWEGO, OREGON, REPORTED TO HAVE\nSEEN-TWELVE TO FIFTEEN ROUND SILVER OBJECTS AT A HIGH ALTITUDE AT\nTWELVE FIFTEEN PM, SEPT. THIRD, FORTYSEVEN, ABOVE OSWEGO, OREGON, WHILE\nUATCHI~G A LOCAL PLANE FLYING OVERHEAD.\nWILL BE INTERVIEW~D.\nBOBBITT\n~\n~\nEND\n,90\n.., ,­\n1 w\n9~HODD\nPLS\n:\n1)~$.1?>1)\n~d~ [..: ·u.- 1 Jv\n7- 45 PM OK FBI WAH\n\"'\nrr' ~r\n,\nq\n,\n1\noitDEJ-1\n1 sp 10 s4b ./ o\n-1,v(~)~\nfX-66\n/Jvt . ;;tf. ~t_\ntf>,C' t\nD ngtun ...\nI\n'Illmm.. ."
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   "n": 93,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p93.jpg",
   "text": "•\nl,lt:.r\n• Ill-> I\n,..._\n.:J\nj::\n(I)\n-::r\n.,..\n::..::\n::)-,\n~\nN\nl.1,.\nr-t\nn c\n(.D\n,­\nc..\nw\nLI\"\")\nC"
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   "n": 94,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p94.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nOffice Memorandum • uNrTEn sTATEs GOVERNMENT\n~\nTO\nDIRECTOR\nDATE: 9-13-47\n~ -l'OM\nSAC, PORTLAND\n(.\nSUBJECT:\nFLYING DISCS\nSECURITY MATTER - X\nReference is .made to my teletype dated 9-4-47, advising that\nMrs. HAYMO~UIS , Oswego, Oregon, was reported to have seen a number\nof discs on 9-3-47 above Oswego.\nMrs. DUPUIS was interviewed and described the object which she\nhas observed as followa a\nWhile entertaining her 7 year old son and 10 year old neighbor\nchild on her lawn, at about noon, Mrs . DUPUIS and the children noticed\napproximately t,,o dozen round silver objects high in the sky.\nMrs . DUPUIS\nstated she believed these objects to have been platter shaped rather than\nspherical and to have been considerably larger than an airplane of the cub\ntype which was flying in a different portion of the sky at the same time.\nShe advised that these objects appeared to her t o be at a great distance\nand constructed of some white metallic material.\nMrs . DUPUIS' attention was first drawn to the objects by an ex­\nplanation from one of the childr en to the effect that the airplane was sky­\nwriting.\nThe objects were grouped in approximately an ar c about level with\nthe sun and to the l eft of the sun as viewed by Mrs. DUPUIS.\nThey did not\nchange positions during the 3 or 4 minutes which she pbserved them but some\nof the larger of the objects appear ed to rotate rapidly in the manner of a\nwheel.\nOne of the objects was separated by considerabl e distance from the\nmain group and while she was watching Mrs. DUPUIS states this object began\nto fall and floated slowly downward until it \\\"18.S no longer visable because\nof trees on the horizon.\nMrs. DUPUIS advised that she continued to observe the remaining\nobjects until her eyes began to be affected by the brightnes of the sky\nwhereupon she went into her house and is unabl e to state wh\nbecame of the\ngroup.\nlt\nLlfl<aMB\n~Uo\n-.I-.-;) - f'3 ?..f.0 73\n62-1531\n&\n,)\n']j......--\n:B\nlbi:nm ' lS SEP 17 1947\nd 2­"
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   "n": 95,
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   "text": "•"
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   "n": 96,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p96.jpg",
   "text": "PORMN0. 14\n•\nMemorandum r\n•\n• UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n'\n'\nTO\nl,J\\\nPROM\nJ.IR. D • .I!. !ADD ~\nE.G. Fitc~a2-­\n~\nYING DISCS\nDATB: Septeml::ler 8, 1947\nJ\nSUBJECT:\nMr. Tolson\nMr. E. A. 'ram\nMr. Clegg__\nMr . Glavin\n: : lti~~-01::::.===\nllr. Rosen --\n: : ~;~n\nReference is made to my memorarrlum to you in the above captioned :: ~-=•a-­\nmatter dated August 22, 1947, which irrlicates that Special Agent Griffee\n!:\nr.~Ttigl;on\nof the Liaison Section had contacted Lieutenant Colorel G. D. Garrett, Jr., ~i.~JggmTanm\nof the Air Forces Intelligence at which tine Colonel Garrett advised that\nt!'t./~~~\nthe A:nn.y Air Forces were coniucting no research or experin:ents in the\n~\n111 •• 03.nd:r\nvicinity of TWin lia.11s, Idaho, on or about August 19, 1947. Coloool Garret\n~\nat that tine indicated to Mr. Griffee that he would check '\\Yith the Anny area\n· .\nin order to ascertain whether or not they were conducting any eXp:3ri.1'00nts ·in\nt.'lis vicinity at that time .\nColonel Garrett has subsequently advised llr. Reynolds that he has\nbeen advised by the A:rmy area that no such exp3rin2 nts oore being coniucted\nin the area of T\\ri.n lia.11s, Idaho, on or a bout August 19, 1947, which would\nin any way throw any ligit on the matter reported in the teletyi;:e.\nREC0MllENDATI0N\nIt is recomnenied this memorarrlum be\nof the Internal Security Section.\n'\nSSEP 22194~\n0.-30"
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   "n": 97,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p97.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n£ 6 d"
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   "n": 98,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p98.jpg",
   "text": "...\n.,,.\nSeptember 26, 1947\nlJr. A. Courtney Parker\nSuperintendent of School•\nSouth ~oyalton. Vermont\nDear Ur. Parker•\nI wbh to aolmowledge reoeiy,t of your letter dated\nSentember 17, 1947.\nAn Aient of our Al~, l•w York, 01'1'ioe\nwill call upon you in the near !'uture for any additional in­\nformation 1n your poaaeaaion.\nYour courtesy and interest 1n bi'intin& this matter\nto ay attention are indeed anpreoiated.\nSinoerely your••\nf '\nJohn Edpr. Hoover\nDirec-tor\ncc - Albany (separate cover lettor )\n'RECORDED\n15\n=,..,,·\n62-83894\n,\n-0\nrn\nRGF:cmw\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION\nMAILED 11\n~FP Gt> 1947 P.M.\nESTISAT(o\nFJUSTI\n·~~~-----\"\"\"\"lb= --!}\nllr. Tolson\nllr.E,A.~\n: : 8t:~n ­\n:: ~g•=ot.:::s===\nllr. Rosen -­\n.,,. . Tracy-­\nJ:'.:=:=•a-­\n111'. Harbo-­\n:: ~~~·\"\"1-ng=t:;,,on-==\nllr. qu1nn Ta,an­\nTols, Room\n­\nKr. Neaee -­\nlllsa Oandy"
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   "n": 99,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p99.jpg",
   "text": "..\nSAC, Alban.,\nSeptember 25.1 1947\nlllreotor, FBI\nFU.'IJfJ DISCS\nA. Coartney Pt.mer, Informant\nAttached h.-eto are copies or an incoDd.ng commmication from A.\nCourtney Parker, Superintendmt ot Schoal.a, Bouth Jlojalton, Verm:,nt, and\ncopies ot aclc:nowledgmcrt or same.\nIt ie requested that m Agmt of -raar Oi't.lce call on 11r. Pa.Iicer\nto obtain any ad:11.tional information in his possession cancerriing fiying\ndiscs.\nu.\n-.,\nI\nrr,,,\n')\nn\nl\"'-..l\nPn~es\n<.31\n\".!.\nA\nkiBwRD.EJfGF:mae\n.\n>\n0\n.-;,\n1:1; ;g\n~ /I -\n.,;;\n°'\n-·\n~c.\"\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION\n·t}~\nl,\n~\nMAILED 11\n* St.P 2o1947 P.~.\nFE0E8Al 6U!fEJJJ OF lltVESTIGATION\nU. S. DEP~KTMENT OF JIJSrlCE\nl t-r"
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   "n": 100,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p100.jpg",
   "text": "..\n,:\n•.> , ..\nCHELSEA\nNORWICH\nROYALTON\n..\nSTAT.E Oi V ERMON ,_, '\nDEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION\nORANGE. W I NDS O R· D IST R ICT\nA. COURTNEY PARKER, Superin1endcn1\nSOUTH ROYALTON\nSeptember 17 , 1947\nFe•eral Bureau of Investi gati on\nWashington , D. C.\nDear Sirs :\nAt 3 : 40 P . M. to-aay I observe• a so- call e• flying\nsaucer. Tnis occur re• wnile I was nalf way up Rix Leages\nnorth of Lebanon, N. H. As I was intently watching tne\nhoney bees circling in a paten of sky after leaving my\nbee box my attention was call ea to a floating object that\nappearea to be as large as a tennis ball an• as wnite as\ncotton batting. This object approache• rapialy an• noiselessly\nfrom the East an• was followe• closely by another object\nthat appeare• in size an• shape like a saucer which maintaine•\na constant angle of inclination to tne bal l an• followe• it\nat a constant aistance . Tne two objects maae an angle with\nmy eye of approximately five aegrees . Tney were in my vision\nfor more than a minute wnen I l ost them in tne glare of the\nsun.\nIf' I natl seen this in tne night sky with my six incn\ntelescope I woul• nave tnougnt tnat tne planets Venus an•\nSaturn naa su••enly gotten together an• were traveling\n.\ntne eartn.&J.-ff3o7f--j/_5\nl"
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   "n": 101,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p101.jpg",
   "text": ",­"
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   "n": 102,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p102.jpg",
   "text": "OFFICE OF DI RECTOR\nFEDERAL BUREAU \\)F INVESTIGATION\nUNITED STAfES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\nSeptember B, 1947\nMr. Tracy\nMr. Carson\nI\nLadd_.r..✓--\nNi cbols--\nRosen\nMr. Egan\nThe attached was sent to\nMr. Gurnea\nthe Director by Walter\nMr. Harbo\nWinchell.\nMr. Hendon\n/\nMr. Jones\nMr. Pennington_\nThe notations appearing\nTele. Room__\nthereon read:\nMr. Nease ___\nMiss Holmes__\n\"Ack & F.B.I.\"\nMiss Gandy___\n\"Please excuse haste ­\nmake airmail west.\"\nAttachment\nmt\nR\nRDEn\n.,O\nh\n~\nED {;\n6\nBureau fil\nail to reflect any\nrecord on\ns. Madeline Gwynne\nMerchant, the writ\nletter.\nI\nc\n/\n1\nSEP is 1947\n//"
  },
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   "n": 103,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p103.jpg",
   "text": "· 1\n0 d3 '•\n11.1snr :10 ·1.d30 ·s·r,\n..."
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   "n": 104,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p104.jpg",
   "text": "r . •alter ,incnell,\nr, Postmaster,\nLoo Angeles , C,..J.if •\n.l)ec:1.r 1, r . u i ncr:e .11 :\n'\\.T /\n'.s /\n£hvo.cle&e~ Jetter deals with what are being\ncalled \" discs.\"\nYou are not -co mention tne contents of this\nletter over the air , nor to any ina.ividual otner tnan officials\nof tu.e \\,a,r .uep't., .wemoers of the JBI , or an .American whose\npatriotism ,,ollld rank witn your ovm, &.i..d wno might donate :t,10 , 000\nor more for the purpose of my continuing tne col~ection of field\na.ata conce1·ning II d1.0c s , 11 while time may remain i.1 which to do so .\nI haTe had respectful attention from the\nfollo,,ing perso...s•\n(.,..,:; uo-tiheerrn, fi6F e;;;:gx:iG acco·u::t\"' Qveu.)\nCol . Herbert C. Gee , Comm. Officer ,\nLos Alamos Atomic rroject ,\nLos Ale.mos , N .1 • •\n:ti aj . Bia.ne,, Newourger, Securi't:V Official,\nLos Alamos Atomic Project ,\nLos Alamos , ..l .M .\nr . 1illara. Zim!uer , . Lilitar:v Intelliger.ce,\n.l:' . o. .Jox 6ol ,\ni:>anta re , N .K .\ni\n3\n'I\nENCLOSURE"
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   "n": 105,
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   "text": "I\nt •"
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   "n": 106,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p106.jpg",
   "text": "(Pnone 1566)\nto China, )\n1~ .:rri . )\n~ashington~\nwith the\nright ahead. \"\nmoney to\nelusive\nD. C.\nii this\nGee ,\nrealit\"lr•\n.! rancis .A inle;y,\n1ederal\nA5 ent- in- Chart;;e ,\n~ureau OI Inv. cigation,\n•\nSan:ta J'e , N. 1v1 .\nGen. S .R. 'Brennault ,\nss',:;. to Lf. Gen. Nathan _.•. Twining ,\nAAJ' Materiel Command,\nWashington, n.c.\nCol. Zumwalt,\nAss ' t to Colonel Bunker,\nCo!Ilill. 0:t'f.\nKirtland J'ield,\nAlbuquerque , ~ .M.\nGen. Patrick Hurley, (~ormer Ambassador\n1210 Shoreham Bld ' g. (.Also Santa J·e ,\nWashingta;, , \"J . C\nAnd thr ough the courtesy o:t' Gen. Patrick Hurlev,\na let~er from Sec . OI War Robert Patterson, ~ar Dep't,\nAll were highlJ interested, appreciative ,\ngeneral \"trend o±' contacts being , \" This is fine .\nGo\nMy poin,:; in writing you is to raise some\n~roceed with.\n~o budgets seemed to allow for the unexpected ,\n\"discs. 11\nSen. Carl llatch, D- N.~ ., U. S. Senate , ~ashington,\nnas been contacted by mail Ior an appropriatio~, but even\nonl;v requires one more week, it may be too late .\nYou may contact any oI the above listed persons to\nveriI'y m~, contacts (excuse repetition word contact) during the past\n:tour months .\nIn other words,\nI began reporting directl,, to\nDr. N0 rris ..tiraa.bury, bcientific Head of Los Alamos, and Colonel\net al , some time ago tn8 t tnis t;v_i:)e aerial II disc u was a"
  },
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   "n": 107,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p107.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nThis mate~ial 1as considered con!idential , and still is.\nI have been asked by Colonel Gee not to speak an,, further\nthan mat~rial which has been published in the press.\nAnd I have\nchosen simply not to speak at all , except to a source which I consider\nmight 1urther my own work.\nI I you ask or tne above persons , to ascertain whether or\nnot I have made serious, materially valuable contributions, which\nma~ indicate much scien~i!ically... .. . and which, i f action can be\ncontinued soon enough, may a li~~le later save our nation much • . . .\nplease make inquiries quietly, and as promptlv as convenient.\nI must ask you not to speculate , even to vourselr ...\nout si....plv to act .\nlJo not mention in any manner, until release bv the har\nDep ' t , even tue receipt or this letter, except to the above persons ,\nor proper governmen~ o:t:ticials tnere .\nOr , to one whom ,,ou know Hill\nmake a donaliion.\n:t'erhaps your savest bet would -be simpl:v to telephone the\n1.r3I there , auo. let them telephone 1\n1rancis J inle:v nere :tor verirication.\nI promise you an exclusive , behind the scenes stor~ when,\nand if, tne ,1ar lJep ' t releases the material nationally.\nMeantime ,\nyour action now may save :vou..r ov1n lite , and that 01 others who ma,, •\nnave wor..dered what a \"disc\" is .\nRest assured I have all the proper scientific and rovernmenta\ncontacts needed... ... al~ I need is the where¼ithall.\nI h~ve the\nproper backt;roi...nd to d.isci...ss tne subject , secure the further field"
  },
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   "n": 108,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p108.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n-\nd· ta I new need, explain it technically, and secure proper action,\nprovided I wn given ~ne means to do so.\nI regret that I cannot be more specific now , but dutv\nto country rests above .\nI have met be:t'ore with the mental reaction,\n\"What? A\nwoman hanaling this type material? \"\nAnd m:v signature beTow will\nprobaol? evoke the same response f'rom :vou.\nSo I assure :vou, :ves,\nit is a woman who is comi ng in with the inI·ormation which men have\ngone out to seek.\nAnd doing the proper thing about it .\nMrs . hladeline\ncc/\nP. S. Am a rormer newspaper person, and very proud of it.\nAm 39, but dress and feel some younger .\nAgain , I must ask ,,ou not to mention even the town from\nwhich this letter comes , as :vou ma:v be endangering lives to\nso so .\nSimply ascertain my contributions , get so r.e monev to\nme, and wait .\n(.!!-rancis l'inley ==1s cJ f would give me a gas\nbud6et, iI' ne were not so close himself. )"
  },
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   "n": 109,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p109.jpg",
   "text": ""
  },
  {
   "n": 110,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p110.jpg",
   "text": ""
  },
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   "n": 111,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p111.jpg",
   "text": "UNITE:C..ATES GOVERNMENT\n~fficeMr~:~:rt:~~\nDATE:\nAugust 28, 1947\nFROM\nT. F. Bauehman\n~ - .olso\nf4\n::.r. :. .\n• . ;1\n~ ~:>\nSUBJECT:\nLetter and material received from\nMrs. J. ~\nxon\n~still, South carolina\n!.:r .\ng: :?: :=--­\nRoute 1, Box JO\nl.l\". He\n1.!r. Pe\n:?\". Qu_\n~alt:l . .\ni:r. ::e\n1ass ·­\nThe attached let ,er dated August 14, 1947 from Mrs. Mixon to­\ngether with the material which she reports to be part of a f lying saucer\nwas recei ved in t 'e Laboratory on Augu~t 19, 1947.\nThe material which\nl'!as subnitted ..,;ith ~rs. Mixon I s l etter has be.:n identified as powdered\nsoap stones.\nInasmucb as the Investigative and Security Divisions might possibly\nbe interested in this matter, I request that\nou adv:ise me as to the :inal\ndisposition of the submitted material as well as the type of reply which\nshould be nade to Mrs. Mixon 1s letter.\nfX..83"
  },
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   "n": 112,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p112.jpg",
   "text": "•\n-\n•\nog'tl~\\-\\-0 3 ,-.,1~.Y3'd\nL~c. \\i\\~ Of. c; i1. 'J\\\\~"
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   "n": 113,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p113.jpg",
   "text": "SUBJECT: ~\nLYING SA CER\nReference is made to the memrandum from Ur• .Baughman to Mr.\nHarbo, dated August 28, 1947, requesting\nvice as to the final disposi­\ntion of material submitted by Mrs. J. H\nEstill, South Carolina.\nIt is noted that this material,\nic\nlfrs. Mixon reported to be a -part or\na flying saucer, has been identified as powdered soap stones.\n,:; ~\nl'O\n.: ,\nDATE: September 4, 194\n'\nFROM\n:\nJ. P. Co\nIt is recomnended that the material be returned t o Mrs. Jlixon\nalong with a letter adV'ising that such has been identified as powdered soap\nstones.\nRGF:LH"
  },
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   "n": 114,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p114.jpg",
   "text": ".. \\.\n.,, .\n;·),lSfW ~U i ci30 -~\n, .. .,11 I .,U . o.:!l\n'\n': 8 .~\nI 8 -1\nt1o•v~o0~ ,v:m,r1\nnrrn - 1=b\\~~~;..03Al333t1 ~, ~d LZ z ~ cl3\nLt1, Wd OJ Lk ~ t,~3i\n~ ,HS .,,,\nN0.ISIAI0 .r1rnl'lll08Vl\nI 8 d"
  },
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   "n": 115,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p115.jpg",
   "text": "-\n.,\nMemorandum . uNrTED sTATEs GovERNMENT\nDirector, FBI\nSAC, Phoenix\nREPORI'S OF FLTIID IJlSCS\nATTENl'IONs\nReference is made to San Francisco letter dated August 28, 1947,\n\\\nand to Bureau te1etype to Phoenix dated August _30, 1947.\nWith reference to the above matter, I desire 1:o point out that the\nletter of reference from San Francisco did not reach Phoenix until September\n2, 1947.\nOn August 29, 194?, a Mr. GEORGE FUGATE, JR. called at the Phoen:i.X\noffice and exhibited credentials reflecting that he is a representative of A-2,\nFourth Air Force, Hamilton Field, California. He also exhibited orders emanating\nfrom the office of Colonel DONALD SPRINGER, A-2, Fourth Ai.r Force, Hamiilton Field,\nCalifornia, instructing rum t o proceed to Phoenix immediately and contact the FBI\noffice, at llhich time a Special Agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation would\nbe designated to accompany him to interview WI~FS, who had previously.\n­\n!\"eported t he µiotographing of a flying disc. The orders further indicated that \"'\nthe sa.n Francisco office of the FBI was transmitting further information re­\nlating to Mr. FUGATE 1S mission.\nASAC HEBER Y. CLEGG telephonically communicated with SAC HARRY KDABA.U..\nof the San Francisco office and Mr. KIMBALL verified t.he above infonnation and\nstated that a letter bad been directed to the Fhoenix office suggesting that the\nPhoenix office assist aey representative who called from A-2 in the interrogation «\nof RHODES.\nSAC KIMBALL stated that in connection Jdth f~g discs, he had main­\ntained close contact with Colonel SPRINGER and that close cooperation existed.\nHe further advised tbat many reports of flying discs had been received at San\nFrancisco and that a full discussion concerning the results of inquiries had\nbeen he1d with Colone1 SPRINGER.\nIn connection with f'l¥:i.ng disc investigations, Mr. KIMBALL advised\nhe had maintained close touch w.i.th the fureau and had apparently handled these\nmatters in accordance with Bureau policy.\nIn vien of the above, Special Agent J. BAIIEY BRCNIER of the fhoenix\noffice was permitted to work with Mr. FUGATE in the interview of WILLIAM ALBERT\nRHODF.S.\nThe results of the inquiry are set out hereunder.\nf\nASSISTANI' DIIW:;TOR D. M.\nr 4, 1947\n-\n--v\n11, J\n5 5 {E P 3 0 1947coPms DESTROYF.D\n~\n2 7 0\nNOV 18 1964"
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   "n": 116,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p116.jpg",
   "text": "-"
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   "n": 117,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p117.jpg",
   "text": ".,\nJ\"\n'\nPhoellix file 62-213\nWILLIAU ALBERT RHODES, 4333 N. 14th Street, Phoenix, Arizona, owns\nand maintains the Panoramic Research Laboratory and Hobby Shop at this address,\nand he related the following as occurring on the afternoon of JuJ.y 7, 1947: •\nA storm had occurred in Phoenix on the afternoon of Ju1y 7, 1947,\nand the clouds were at approximately 5000 feet, the color of which was grey\nand they resembled dense cum.uJ.us.\nA fifteen mile per hour wind was blowing.\nAt approximately 5 p.m. on that date, Mr. RHODES was walking from his home\nto the Hobby Shop and he heard a noise resembling a P-80 aircraft, apparent'.cy\ncoming in a wester'.cy direction. Upon searching the skies he observed to the\nnortheast what appeared to be an odd shaped ship.\nHe described this ship as\nbeing possibly 20 to 30 feet in diameter, traveling at an estimated speed of\n100 miles per hour. It appeared to be making a spiral in a small radius of\npossibly one-half to three quarters of a mile.\nRHODES stated the sound which\nhe first heard was no longer audible; that he hurriedzy procured a 120 Brownie\nBox Camera from his shop, and as the aircraft completed the first circle he\nobtained a photograph. As the ship started on the second turn, it was in a\nnorthwesterly direction from his place and he again snapped a photograph, which\nmore closely resembled the shape of the ship than photograph #1, this being\ndesignated as Exhibit II, as submit ted to the Bureau with letter dated August\n4, 1947, by the Office of Assistant Chief of Staff A-2 Intelligence, Hamilton\nField, California. RHODES .further described the direction of the ship by\nstating that instead of completing the lefthand downward spiral the ship banked\nto the right and disappeared into the clouds.\nHe stated that just as it banked,\nhe had snapped the second photograph, Exhibit II.\nAt the last point, which was at the time the ship made this turn, Mr.\nRHODF.S estimated it to be between 1,000 arrl 2,000 .feet high. He further des­\ncribed the appearance of this ship as closely resembling a picture which appeared\non the front cover of the May, 194?, issue of the Mechanics Illustrated Magazine,\nthe only difference noted by Mr. RHODFS being that the ship appeared t o be fly­\ning backward •\n.Mr. RHODES also related that he did not associate the appearance of\nthis ship with the numerous reports of flying discs. He related, however, that\nafter a three minute interview with newspaper repor-ters the story that appeared\nin the local papers was \"blown up\" to the extent that he, RHODES, barely recog­\nnized the information furnished by him.\n.Mr. RHODES explained that the afore­\nmentioned dimensions and distances were only estimated, pointing out, that his\nprevious experience probably assisted him in making fairly close estimates.\nHe\nrelated that he bad been doing experimental work for the past ten years. He\nalso stated he was Employed at the Naval Ordnance Laboratory, Washington, D. c.\nduring the early part of World War II and left there the beginning of 1942.\nUpon his return t o Phoenix, he was employed at Falcon Field near Phoenix which\nwas leased by the British Goverrunent for training purposes.\nHe instructed in\ninstrument training, aircraft ident ification and gunnel\"'J practice. He explained\nthat his hobbies have to do with science, physics, radio, electronics and astronomy.\nHe produced a model which he had made of a radio controlled airplane. He related\nthat most of his work consists of building transfonners, but it is also necessary\nfor him to depend upan his music ability for his livlihood."
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   "n": 118,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p118.jpg",
   "text": ".,\nPhoenix file 62-213\nIn explaining the results of photographing the ship, Mr. RHODES\nstated that he was surprised that the object appeared dark on a light back­\nground; that he :fully expected that the object would be light on a dark back­\nground.\nHe described the light spot which appears in the center of the object\n(Exhibit II) as being a green house.\nRHODES insisted. that the ship made no\nnoise that was audible t o his ear and he was unable to detect the presence of\naey propeller.\nHe also related that after the newspaper release over Radio\nStation KTAR, wherein statements were made that he, RHODES, had stated Army\nofficials were studying the photographs, and that it was a top secret, he\nattempted to determine the source of this release and the Radio station finally\ntold him that it was a United Press release from Washington, D. C.\nThe following description of RHODES was obtained from observation\nand interrogation:\nAge\nDate birth\nPlace birth\nHeight\nWeight\nEyes\nHair\nEducation\nMarital status\n30\nU - 29-16\nGarden City, Kansas\n6 1 3\"\n155 pounds\nBlue\nBrown\nFhoenix Union High School\nM:lrried- one son\nIt shoul.d be stated that at the time of intervi8i'f with RHODES, Mr.\nBROWER identitied himself as an agent of the Federal Bureau of Investigation and\nexhibited his credentials .\nHowever, pursuant to a request 1'rom Mr. FUGATE, he\nwas introducBd only as a r epresentative of the United States government. His\nexact of'ficia1 connection was not made lmown to Mr. RHODE.S:\" Agent BROWER advised\nthat he felt it was a peculiar procedure, but it was not his business. However,\nat the conclusion of the interview, Mr. FUGATE requested Ur. RHODES to furnish\nhim with the negatives and RHODF.5 stated he would be glad to do so, but they\nwere not in his iDJJ18iiate possession, and he would deliver then to the FBI the\nfollowing morning.\nMr. RHODF.S requested that the negatives be returned to him,.\nAgent BROVTER states that to this request, Mr. FUGATE made no rep~. Agent BROWER\nstates that after leaving Mr. RHODES he asked FUGATE if the negatives would be\nreturned to Mr. RHODES and FUGATE stated that he doubted very much that they would\nbe returned. Mr. BROWER then advised Mr. FUGATE that before he, BROWER, would\naccept these negatives that RHODES must be advised of Mr. FUGATE'S identity and\nalso advised that the negatives, it turned CNer to Mr. FUGATE, would not be\nreturned to him."
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   "n": 119,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p119.jpg",
   "text": "Phoenix file 62-2l3\nIn view of which, on the morning on August 30, 1947, when Mr. RHODES\ncalled at the Phoenix office t o deliver the negatives, they were accepted. only\nafter he was advised that they were being given to Mr. FUGATE, a representative\nof the Army Air Foree Intelligence, United States Arrrry, and that there -was little,\nif any, chance of his getting the negatives back. Mr. RHODES turned the negatives\nover to this office with the full 'll.Merstanding that they were being given to the\nArmy and that he would not get them tack.\nThe Phoenix office did not receive the Bureau teletype of reference\ninstructing that no joint investigation should be conducted until after the\nmatter had been handled.\nInasmuch as military authorities have complete knowledge of the results\nof the interview with Mr. RHODES no copy of this r eport is being designated. for\nA-2.\nJBB-kb\ncc-san Francisco\n62- 2)3\n-4 ­"
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   "n": 120,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p120.jpg",
   "text": "FBI PORTLAND\n9- 13- 47\n8 - 08 Pf,\nHHS\nIr Cl\nr\nHr JS Dff\n~\nl/DfREC10R\nU :1 C E N I\nT\n(?FLYING DISCS .\nLEOt.: V~\nNKil~S, CEIEF OF POLICE, PORTLP,ND , STA TES\nHE OBSERVED AT ABOUT FIVE FIFTEEN PM ELEVENTH I NSTANT, AN OBJECT\nSIMI LAR IN SIZE TO A WEATHER BALLOON , WHICH APPEARED TO BE MADE OF\nALUMINUM OR SOt-'iE OTHER BRICHT METAL,\nTrrnVELING RAPIDLY NORTHUEST TO\nSOUTHEAST OVER PORTLAND AT AN ESTIMATED TEN THOUSAND FEET .\nOBJEC1\n'JEERED TO SOUTH AND DISAPPEARAD IN THE DISTANCE I N APP,,OJI MATELY ONE\n~lit-:UTE .\nALSO OBSERVED BY PATROU-iAN H. ~ . ~At~EY' DRI'~'fi~ ~r JEN la [~S\nCAR ,\nA~~ fCSSIBLY BY OTHER PORTLAND POLICE OFFICERS .\nSMALL ARTICLE\nAPPEARED IN PORTLAND NE~SPAPER, THE OREGONIAN, CONCERNING THIS ON\nTKELF'i'H INSTANT .\nEND"
  },
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   "n": 121,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p121.jpg",
   "text": "RECEIVEDTELETYPE UNIT\nf-.8.1. DEPT. OF .IUSTICE\nI\n. ... r11 Ju h =....\n·, ·s·.:\\\n,.,1rnno3S 1VH\\!3ltH\n. 1, W~tO 0\\ ; \\ J~\n03M333a"
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   "n": 122,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p122.jpg",
   "text": "!;If£ -.\nMr ~,I ,.\nr I\n/\n1\n•\nIr R\nJ\nAVENUE,\nTENN . ,\nBELLGRAVE, -Ge\nWHICH HE\nSOUTHERLY DI~ECTION\nAND TURNING\nPLANE .-­\n•\n,\nJ\n7.,\n~\\\nI\nFBI NORFOLK\n9- 13- 47\n4- 15 PM\nCLC\nAlRECTOR\nU R G E N T\nO FLYING DISCS .\nMRS . G. H~OCKTON, ONE SIX NINE A VIEW\nOCEAN VIEW, VA . , REPORTED SIGHTING FLYING DISC AT SHOUNS,\nSIXT~ LAST .\nSON-IN- LAW, H~NINGS, ONE ONE ONE\ne.\nOCEAN VEG~ :S:0. VIEW, CONFIRMS SIGHTING OF THIS OBJEJT\nDESCRIBEJ AS BEING SHAPEU LIKE FOOT3ALL, MOVING IN A\nAT CONSTANT ALTITUDE OF APPROXIMAT:~LY TWO THOUSAND FEET,\nEND OVER END IN THE AIR .\nRATE OF SPEED COMPARABLE TO CUB\nJENNINGS STAT.ES eJt!rft OBJECT VISIBLE FOR APPROX I t1ATEL Y FIVE MINt.4s\nAGAINST OVEJ-tCAST SKY•\nNO DETAILS DISCERNIBLE .\n..iENNINGS ~\nDOES NOT\nBEL I EVE OBJECT WAS DISC BUT THAT I T MIGHT HAVE BEEN A LOOSE l-U::Tt.ROXX\nMETEOROLOGICAL BALLOON .\nRue .\nEND\n5-1 7 PN OK FBI WA BW\nROBEY"
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   "n": 123,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p123.jpg",
   "text": "•\nR~CEIVEO TELETYPE UIIIT\n6Eft II 6 1, PH '41\nn.1 DEFT. OF ,IUSTICE"
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  {
   "n": 124,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p124.jpg",
   "text": "I N Rlll'LY RPm TO:\ncnN1=10rN11Al::\nf\nI A~UARTERS, ARMY AIR FORC~ .\nWASHINGTON\nAFBIR- C 0\nS SEP1947\nDirector\nFederal Bureau of Investigation\nDepartment of Justice\nWashington 25, D. C.\nDear Sir:\nAttention:\nLiaison Section\nIn answer to a verbal request of your Mr .\nS. W. Reynolds , a complete survey of research activities\ndiscloses that the Army Air Forces has no project with\nthe characteristics similar to those which have been\nassociated ~~th the'ilying Discs.\nYours sincerely,\nGEO. J. SCHULGEN\nBl'lg&dier General, U. S.A.\nDeputy, Ass't. Chief of Air Staff-2\nI\nAuthority\n~\nNND90986\nCONFIDENTIAL\nAODREH Rl!Pl.Y TO, COMMANDING GENERAL. ARNY AIR FORCES, WASHI NQTON 2!1, D, C."
  },
  {
   "n": 125,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p125.jpg",
   "text": "_\nn - =o-•-~\n•\n•\n•\n• •\nOffice Memorandum • UNITED sTATEs 'GOVERNMENT\nTO\nDATE: 9/16/47\n11r. Toleon~-­\nw:r. E. A. Tua\nFROM\n:I. G. J'lto\n:: 8½:~1-n:::--=.._-=_-_\n_' _-= =\nIll'. Ladd~\nC\nill'. Nlchole\nill'. Ro..n:--_ -_ -_­\nSUBJECT:\nl'Lnl'G DISCS\n:: ~;~-n-­\n:: ~~=.-- ­\n111'. H&rbo\nllr. Hendo•~ ::;;::;::;::\nSpecial. Agent s. w. ReJ\"DOl4e of the Lial1on Section hae 41 ■-\nllr. PeMtngton\nill'. Quinn r ....-­\ncu■ed with Ltatenant Colonel George Garrett of the tatelllgence\n~ ~eN.::m·_=;::=\nDiTidoa of the Air :rorcea the poaa1\"bll1t7 that the fiTiDC diac1 or\n~1•• Holme\n1auoer1 are in fact a project of the J,,,rJq Air Yore••• It should 1,e note&!.\nthat Ooloael Garrett 8Cl\"eM with thta poa1lbUit7. At that time Mr. ReJD,014a\npolatecl nt '9 Oeloael Garrett the poadble •barrudng poetHon of the\ntntellf&ence D1T1aion of tbe Air Yore•• tf tt wa• n1,■eqv.eat17 aacer\\atned\nthat th11 va1 the truth, eapeo1all7 alaoe the7 ha4 requested the ae11sta.uce\nof the Bureau in the oapt1oaecl aatter.\nOolonel Qarrett a4-rieecl Mr. R•J']lold1 that he wo1ll.d 1D1tlmte a\nfur'her ,ea.rob, and m ha1 ·nov a4-r11ed that a letter was a4dreeeecl lt1' Major\nGeneral KcI>onal.4, Director of the l:a'8111Bence D1Tb1on of the Air Jloroea. to\nthe lleeearah and DneloJlllent Seotton of the Air hro•••\n!here 1■ at~hed hereto a letter addrea1ecl to the Director, da,ed\nSep,•b•r 15, 1947. froa !rtca,lter General George P. Sclmlgen, which ■tat•• tba,\na coaplete nrn7 ot reeearoh aot1-rttie• cUec101ee that the ~\nilr Jlorcee\nba•• no project with cbaraotertaUc1 e1a1l.ar to ,hose which haTe been uaooiatecl\nwith tu flTiDC dleoa.\nllCQMMl!JBDATIOJ:\nIt ta reoo-•nd.ecl that thil meJ10randua be forwarded to tlle Internal\nSecurit7 Seotio:a for their illfol'll&tion•\n.Attacblleat\nr\nt\n~ o,\n04>\n~~\n'<) t~ ~ 73 g-91/ rr/\n, ~\n' '\n,,✓\n.,\n110\n55 SEPJ v~947"
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   "n": 126,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p126.jpg",
   "text": "••\n1/f· (, [ IV~\n..,i3 I I 12 ~M\n~\n,lfrfRNAL S£cunn\nRECEWEO\nF. B. I\nr\n:P \\ 7 9 11 ~\\,\\ 'tl'i\niJfplG\nRECEIVEO\nIH1ERHAL secUR\\T'!\nIESTIGATIVE OIVISIO~\n;,~Ct\n10$.P,f ~,,\nF. B. \\.\nlt,,fO\nYr\n., -')r OF II Sil'\n'\\[ p 2~ 9 4A Ml •~7\nI, \\'\n./\" i) ' t4UI)\n- /)~/!>, Q .l\n()~ I\n•\nI\n(Jr-\n.\n•\n~ l 1f'1-·\n, Bl\nOf PT or JU\" r ll, ;\n\"\" ...\n'\n·~\nv\nI.,.\nrJ -~\n•\n.)\n,J\n, -·\n/_ ."
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   "n": 127,
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   "text": "~--~M\n•\n•\n. . .\nOffice Memorandum . UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nTO\nDirector, FBI\nDATE : 9-17-47\nPortland\nREPORrS OF FLYnm DISCS\nSECURITY MATTER - X\n' Refer San Francisco letter dated September 4, 1947.\nFRID ~\nHNSON, Globe Hotel, 106 mv. First Avenue, Portland, reported\nwithout consulting any records that on June 24, 1947,while prospecting at a\npoint in the Cascade Mountains approximately five thousand feet from sea level,\nduring the afternoon he noticed a reflection, looked up, and saw a disc pro­\nceeding in a southeasterly direction. Immediately upon sighting this object\nhe placed his telescope to his eye and observed the disc for approximately\nforty- five to sixty secondil.\nHe remarked that it is possible for him to pick\nup an object at a distance of ten mil.es with his telescope. At the time the\ndisc was sighted by Mr. JOHNSOO it was banking in the sun, and he observed\nfive or six similar objects but only concentrated on one. He related that\nthey did not fly in any particular formation and that he would estimate their\nheight to be about one thousand feet from where he was standing. He said the\nobject was about thirty feet in diameter and appeared to have a tail. It made\nno noise.\nAccording to JOHNSON he remained in the vicinity of the Cascades\nfor several days and then r eturned to Portland and noted an article in the\nlocal paper which stated in effect that a man in Boise, Idaho, had sighted a\nsimilar object but that authorities had disclaimed any knowledge of such an\nobject. He said he cozmnunicated with the Army for the sole purpose of attempt­\ning to add credence to the story furnished by the man in Boise.\nJOHNSON also related that on the occasion of his sighting the objects\non June 24, 1947 he had in his possession a combination compass and watch.\nHe\nnoted particularly that immediately beiore he sighted the disc the compass\nacted very peculiar, the hand waving from one side to the dther, but that this\ncondition corrected itself immediately after the discs had passed out of sight.\nInfonnant appeared to be a very reliable individual Y1ho advised that\nhe had been a prospector in the states of Montana, Washington, and Oregon for\nthe past forty years.\nFJS:KAM\n62-1531\n2 cc:\nSan Francisco (62-2938)\n31 SEP 2 9~7"
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   "n": 128,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p128.jpg",
   "text": "••\n-.\n. .\n'"
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   "n": 129,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p129.jpg",
   "text": "\"\" 0&nc1.y\n~\n\\\n-\nSTr,\\ftD FORM~- 64\n•\n•\n~ .JIOffice Memorandum • .UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nTO\nD. II. !ADD ~\nt l 9,J~\nJ\n. Clegg, .--_-_-_-_\nFROM\nE. G. FITCH\nllr. 0lav1o.___\n::: ~ ~,,,.lir--­\nlt ~~~,----­\nSUBJ ECT:\n½ rxnm DISCS\n::: ~_:on~-­\nKr. Ournea____\nllr. llarbo\nllr. Holldo·;;-0:;;.;;.:::.:::.=\nSpecial Agent s. Vf. Reynolds of the Liaison Section, while dis- ~i.~:===\ncussing the above captioned phenomena with Lieutenant -Colone~rrett\nl:i;.~~ :.,,.,0.---­\nof the Air Forces Intelligence, expressed the possibility that fzyin·g\n111\niscs were, in fact, a very highly classified experi.roont of the Army or\nNavy.\nMr. Reynolds was very much surprised when Colonel Garrett not on1:-..\n\\( lI~\ngreed that this was a possibility, but confidentially stated it was his\npersonal opinion that such was a probability.\nColonel Garrett indicated\nconfidentially that a ~\nrroll, who is a scientist attached to the Air\nForces Intell igence, was of the same opinion.\nColonel Garrett stated that he based his assumption on the\nfollowing :\nHe pointed out that when flying objects -were reported seen over\nSweden, the 11high brass\" of the War Department exerted tremendous pressure\non the Air Forces Intell igence to conduct research and collect information\nin an ef fort to identify these sightings.\nCol onel Garrett stated that, in\ncontrast to this, we have reported sightings of unknovm objects over the\nUnited States, and the \"high brass\" appeared to be totally unconcerned.\nHe indicated this led him to believe that they knew enough about these\nobjects to express no concern.\nColonel Garrett pointed out further that the\nobjects in question have been s een by many individuals who a re what he\nterma 11trained observers,\" such as airplane pilots.\nHe indicated also that\nseveral of the individual s are rel iable member s of the community.\nHe stated\ni t i s his conclusi on that these individuals saw something.\nHe stated the\nabove has l ed him to come t o the conclusion that t here were objects seen\nwhich somebody in the Government knows all about.\nMr. Reynolds pointed out to Colonel Garrett that if it is a fact\nexper imentations are being conducted by the United States Government, then it\ndoes not appear reasonable to request the FBI to spend money and precious\ntime conducting inquir ies with respect to this matter.\nCol onel Garret t stated /J ­\nthat he agreed with Ur. Reynolds in this regard and indicated that it would be~\nextr emely embarrassing to the Air Forces Intelligence if i t later is learne<i\nthat t hese flying discs are, in fact, an experiment of the United States\nGoverruoont •\nMr. Reynolds subsequently discussed this matter with Colonel L. R.\nForney of the Intell igence Division of the War Depar tment.\nColonel Forney\nstated that he had discussed the matter previously wit h General Chamberlin.\nColonel Forney indicated to Mr. Reynolds that he has the assurance of General\nRECORDED\nSWR:LL\nrV\nEX-64 INDEXED\n1-:;\n.....\n19\n...\nI~r COPIES D~S1'R0YED\nSEP29\n27 0\nNOV lo 1964"
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   "n": 130,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p130.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•"
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   "n": 131,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p131.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nMEMORANDUM FOR MR. IADD\nChamberlin and General Todd that the Army is conducting no experimentations\nwith anything which could possibly be mistaken for a flying disc.\nColonel Garrett of the Air Forces Intelligence subsequently contacted\nMr. Reynolds and indicated that he had discussed this matter with General\nSchulgen of the Army Air Forces. General Schulgen had previously assured both\nMr. Reynolds and Colonel Garrett that to the best of his knowledge and in­\nformation no experiments were being undertaken by the Government which could be\nmistaken for flying discs. Colonel Garrett indicated to Mr. Reynolds that\nhe had pointed out his beliefs to General Schulgen and had mentioned the\npossibility of an embarrassing situation arising between the Air Forces\nl Intelligence and the FBI. General Schulgen agreed with Colonel Garrett\n\\ that a memorandum would be prepared for the signature of General McDonald,\nA2, to General IeMay, who is in charge of Research and Development in the\nAir Corps. Colonel Garrett indicated that this memorandum will set forth\nthe characteristics of the objects seen by various reliable individuals.\nThe memorandum will then request General I.e:May to indicate whether or not\nany experiloonts are being undertaken by the Air Forces which could possibly\nbe connected with any of the observed phenomena.\nColonel Garrett stated\n, that when a reply is received from General I..eMa.y, a comnmnication will be\naddressed to the Bureau.\nMr. Reynolds will follow this matter closely with Colonel Garrett\nand General Schulgen so that the Bureau will be promptly advised of all\ninfozmation regarding the flying discs, especially aey information indicating\nthat they are, in fact, an experiment of some Governmental agency.\n- 2 ­"
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   "n": 132,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p132.jpg",
   "text": "8-8\n()jfi~;~Memorl dum • UNITED STA'\nS GOVERNMENT\nTO\nD. M.\nDATE:\nFROM\n@\n~:a\n?.;: ;::,;.;;; _I cs_\nSUBJECT:\nc::FBS\nu;:.;ING...,;D_s_\nReference is made to the memorandum to you frolJl t he Liaison\nSection dated July 21, 1947 , setting forth a request from Colonel\nOol br anson of the Intelligence Di.vision of the War Department for the\nB.lreau to conduct investigation to determine the origLn of the flying\ndiscs.\nOBSERVATIONS:\nIt is felt that the situation regarding these flying saucers and\nflying discs is very similar to the situation which was previously encountered\ntu the Bureau during the past war in handling complaints arisi ng out of the\nsighting of Japanese baloons.\nYou will recall that at the inception of these\ncomplaints the Blr eau conducted considerable investigation and located numerous\nbaloons as a cooperative measure for the Army and that after considerable work\nhad been done, the Arnu then informed that these were military weapons and that\nthey would take over the handling of these completel y .\nThis they did and in an\nextremely short time issued a big press release as to the splendid work of the\nArmy in locating these Japanese baloons.\nFrom the infonnation available thus\n/\nfar, it does not appear that these discs should be treated other than as a\n~\nmilitary weapon.\nCertainly the B.lreau has no way to determine what experiments\nthe Arrrq and Navy are conducting and whether such might be arising out of l\nexperiments being conducted by them nor do we have any way of determining how\nfar the Russians have progressed in certain experiments and mether such might I\n~\n' be the r esult s of experiments by the Russian Array. It short, i t would certain.L1/ ;,Y\n\\ appear that this is a military situation and should be handled strictly tu~\njzm.l itary authorities.\n1\nIn this connection it ml..ght be pointed out that our present Portland\ncase arose out of the fact that two Army Intelligence officers were returning\nfrom an interview of two individuals who reportedly had seen flying discs.\nIf\nft\nhe Army Intelligence officers are handling some of these interviews, it is be­\nieved that they should be handling all of these interviews, and it is not\nbelieved that the Bureau should be expending its precious manpower on these com­\nplaints whi ch thus far have no connection with our Russian espionage program.\nThe military authorities certainly are better equipped to know what they are\nlooking for than we are and have more facilities for handling any material which\nit is necessary to examine as a result of its being reported as a remnant of a\n/£'lying disc .\nIt is believed that the fureau is merel y playing bird-dog for tm\nArmy b'J using our manpower to run out these complaints on flying discs.\nACTION~\nEX-34\nREOO:RDJm> Ibe;). - g_f!!!t- 31\nIn view of the recent Bureau fulletin #42 dated July -.; 1921& howl:ver\nthere is attached a letter to the Chi cago Office asking that~e,£e°\"''j;/'7t,he\n'\nrequested investigation.\n)\\ }.\nv:t~\";~ 34 f{lyj,1/\n•\nI"
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   "n": 133,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p133.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nJG \\1 9 07 ~\"' • •\n:~ rERHAL sEcuRr:·v\nf .B.\\.\nr ,:,r ., •\nRECEIVED\np 25 2 57 PM ' I\"\nINTERNAL SECURIP\nF.B. L\n~ ·;T n.r:-\n111r-\n,\n'\\"
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   "n": 134,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p134.jpg",
   "text": "llrD. Joaeph H. R),an\nBieber. CalU'ornia\nDear Wro • .R)oana\nReceipt ia aolcnowledted of your letter\ndated September 19• 194?• requesting into~ tion\noonoerning the origin ot the •nying S.~2Ecnu1\n-•~•\n•\no J\n•\nI\n•\n'\n' n\ns1 bh\nIn thie oo.nneotlon. you are advi ed\n• •\nthat 1n Tin ot a long eatabl1ahed pol1~1,l am\nunable to t'w-niah the reaulta ot inwirttg&tioti•'\nl:u thia lllreau to otb.r than Gowrnmctal 11ouroe.e.\nFor thia reucn I regNt that I am unable to\nanS1Mr your question. wt I appreciate your\ninterest 1n writing to me 1n thia regard.\nSinoerely youn.\nJ olm Edgar BooTer\nDireotor\nRGF:vj:cmw\nCOMMUNtCAno u ~\"' . ~­\nMA ILE' O 12\n'lrr 4\n1947 P.M.\nllr,\nllr. loleon\n,,.. ~\nllr. legp;\n-. -\nlll£lU Of ....r,,\nllr, levln\n\"\n',>\n/\nf}/4\n{\nl::: ~~I:,- PARTMENTO\nCf\ni:::-=~--_-.::,,=~--~'-9!111--I\nl::: ~~:=a-­\nllr, Harbo -­ J\n11r. 11ohr.;;;;::;::::=\n'.l r\nMr. Pennington\nf\n~1­\nllr, Quinn Tam-\n'7\nTele. Room\n-\n1'.1-­\nllr. Nea••-­\nlllso Gan<ly­\n----J\nV"
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   "n": 135,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p135.jpg",
   "text": "'\nt\n\\\n~\nillJ033S lfN\n..:1, Wd tz v\n·,'J-----~----=~\nfin: t.V t '•'~ t\n\\10'1 ~\nsr oa tr\n.r, /i ~WI\n1- TJ .,.-✓. ,t:~\n...\n~\n'nil\n.•\n~..11"
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   "n": 136,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p136.jpg",
   "text": "•\n)-he /<.'Ian du.neuf fi.um.e '\nBIEBER, CALIFORNIA"
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   "n": 137,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p137.jpg",
   "text": "'\n•\n, ~ - '2 ~\n\"i-{ ~'-hi-\n.\ns~ \"'9-&_ ~~­ ~\n~\n~~ ~\n~\n• ~ ~\n~ ' a_ - L, \"- <{l4~ cl_ 't­\n~\neJ:,::- I• ~ ~\n~\nY.,, \"- ~ ~~\n~~<- ~ 'rt.~ ~t .\n~ ~~~\nd- ~,Q, ~"
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   "n": 138,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p138.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•l:JJWL BUREAll M INV~STIGATIOH\nU, g, 0£.l'AIIT r '1 O ~STICE\n,,..\nCOMMU~ I\\Afl J SECTION\nAUG .f\"ie47~\nTELETYPE '(_y\n/I'~\n~ FBI , SEATTLE\n8- 747\n5- 20 PM PST\nRH\nfl -I\nt\n'C,1/4 111\n~\nF ~\n~~RECTOR AND SAC , CHICAGO AND BUTTE\nURGENT\nd\" OFLYING__j)Is.KS SIGHTED BY FREIY'CHR I SMAN AND HARLD -K\"'DAHL,\nSM DASH X.\nREMYTEL AUGUST SIX , LAST CAPTIONED FLYING DISKS .\n1\nMr i. A lac\nMr.Clea:\n/\nMr G vi\nl'dr.Ladl1\nr. Nlcho1e\nMr. 'rraey\nMr. Ei:en\nMr. (,air•\"\nMr.la 110\n~lr. to!tr\nMr. P r,r,\nt n\nlllr. Qt!.in\n.,,\nMr.N<'A\nDAHL AND FRED CHRISMAN, •TACOMA, IN SIGNED STATEMENT INSTANT DATE\nSTAT£ THAT IN EARLY PART OF JUNE , LAST, THE:PICKED UP SOME STRANGE\nROCK FORMATIONS FROM A GRAVEL PI T, MAURI I SLAND, WASHINGTON.\nTHEY STATE\nA CIGAR BOX OF THESE ROCK FORMATI ONS THEY SENT TO ~RA~ALiiE.B , EDITOR OF\nVENTURE MAGAZINE I N EVANSTON , ILLINOIS .\nTHEY STATE PLAMER IS ALSO\nEDITOR OF FANTASY MAGAZINE, CHICAGO, ILLINOIS.\nTHEY STATE\nPALMER ONLY TO MAKE A CHEMICAL ANALYSIS OF THE ROCK FORMATION.\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE PALMER LATER WROTE ASKING FOR ADDITI ONAL SAMPLES\nSTATING HE HAD BEEN UNABLE TO ANALYZE THE MATERIAL.\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN\nSTATE PALMER , A FEW DAYS AFTER THE FLYING DISK STORIES STARTED THE LATTffi\nPART OF JUNE , LAST , CONTACTED THEM BY PHONE AT TACOMA , WASHINGTON , SAYir,.t;\nHE WOULD PAY FOR AN EXCLUSIVE STORY IF THE MATERIAL WHICH THEY HAD SENT\nHIM WAS FRAGMENTS OF A FLYING DISK.\nDAHL STATES HE WROTE PA LMER A\nLETTER IN WHICH HE STATED THE MATE~~R'f>~ P~RT OF A FLYING pjSK .\nJLAHL\n7\nAND CHRISMAN ADIHT THIS STATWENT WAs}9Jffa'Ey FALSE 9-\nD( Hli.'Jo CHRISt'AN\nSTATE THEY HERE CALLED BY KENNET~RNcr'L;J; BOUSE q IDAHO TO MEET WITH\nHIM AT THE WHITHROP HOTEL, TACOMf, 1l\".SHI NGTON; ...KJULY THIRTYFIRST,\nLAST .\nTHEY STATE ~OLD CA L1li} IN ARMY I NTELLIGENCE OFFI CERS FROM\nV...,\nVI .J, /Da; v(/t.A.J\nV"
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   "n": 139,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p139.jpg",
   "text": "•\n,\n...\n'\n­\nr • •\n. •\n.:, IJ .1, .,\n·1 ·a':J\n1.HI003S 1fM~3H~1\n. ~d 9E Z l2 ·-"
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   "n": 140,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p140.jpg",
   "text": "•\nPAGE TWO\nHAMILTON FIELD, CALIFORNIA, AND CAPTAIN EMIL H.,SMITH OF UNITED AIR\nLINES , SEATTLE, WASHINGTpN TO ATTEND THE MEETING .\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN\nCLAIM THEY TOLD THE INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS, CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTEN­\nANT BROWN , AS WELL AS KENNETH ARNOLD AND EMI~SMITH EXACTLY HOW THEY GOT\nTHE ROCK FORMATIONS AND THAT THEY HAD NO CONNECTION WITH ANY FLYING DISK.\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THEY FURNISHED SOME OF THE ROCK FORMATION TO THE\nINTELLIGENT OFICERS AS SAMPLES.\nCAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND LIEUTEANT BROUN\nLEFT TACOMA, WASHINGTON IN AB TWENTY FIVE TO RETURN TO HAMILTON FIELD,\nCALIFORNI A ABOUT TWO THIRTY A. M. AUGUST ONE, LAST, AND WERE KILLED\nWHEN THEIR PLANE CRASHED AT KELSO , WASHINGTON , AFTER THE LEFT ENGINE\nBURNED OUT AN EXHAUST STACK WHICH IN TURN CAUGHT THE LEFT WI NG ON FIRE\nAND IT BROKE OFF.\nTHE CREW CHIEF AND EACH OFFICER PARACHUTED TO SAFETY.\nERNif(vOTEL, ASSOC I ATED PRESS WI REMAN , TACOMA, ADVISED THAT TWO OR THREE\nDAYS AFTER THE FLYING DISK STORIES STARTED , HE CONTACTED DAHL TO CHECK\n0\nA STORY THE SEATTLE POST I NTELLIGENC~R HAD GOTEM'\"F\\M THE FIRE CHIEF AT\nHARBOR, WASHINGTON, TO THE EFFECT THAT DAHL HAD SOME FLYING DISK\nFRAGMENTS .\nAT THIS TIME DAHL ADMITTED TO VOGEL THE ENTIRE STORE WAS\nFALSE .\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE ARNOLD WAS PAID BY RAY PALMER OF THE\nFANTASY ~~AGAZ I NE AND POSS IBLY THE BOISE STATEMAN-\n\\.I\nI\np\nNEWSPA.ER,\n'\\\nTO COME\nTO TACOMA, WASHINGTON AND OBTAIN A STORY FROM ]HEM REGARDING THE\nFLYING DISK FRAGMENTS .\nTHEY FURTHER STATE THAT ~M I~ H. SMITH HAD A"
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   "n": 141,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p141.jpg",
   "text": "RECEfVEO\n,_.,, 27 2 36 PH':!·\nJNTERNAl S!CURrr ··\nF. B. I.\nr-,n', (I~ q_i c -\n.\n~\n...\n•\n•"
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   "n": 142,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p142.jpg",
   "text": "I\n,\n'\n-..I\nPAGE THREE\nFRIEND ON THE CHICAGO TIMES AND WAS POSSIBLY SELLING THE STORY TO fr.\nCHJCAGO TIMES THROUGH THIS FRIEND .\nA CHECK OF THE {oRDS AT THE\n'\\\nWI{HROP HOTEL, TACOMA WHERE ARNOLD HAD HIS ROOM, REFLECT THAT ON JULY\nTHIRTY FIRST, LAST , ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT A. N. FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGT,\nEVANSTON, ILLINOIS, COLLECT, AND ALSO CALLED NAUGHT ONE NAUGHT NINE J AT\nBOISE, IDAHO, COLLECT.\nON AUGUST ONE, LAST, ARNOLD CALLED PALMER AT\nDEARBORN FIVE TWO NAUGHT NAUGHT CHICAGO, COLLECT, AND EMIL SMITH CALLED\nBLANJYf(ODDY AT DEARBORN TWO THREE TWO THREE.\nON .JULY THIRTY FIRST AND\nAUGUST ONE, LAST , A TOTAL OF FIVE ANONYMOUS CALLS WERE RECEIVED BY A\nI)\nTACOMA TIMES REPORTER AND THE UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN AT TAC\"MA, GIVING IN­\nFORMATION REGARDING THE MEETING AT THE WINTHROP HOTEL OVER THE DISK\nFRAGMENTS AND STATING THAT THE B TWENTY FIVE HAD BEEN SHOT DOWN OR\nSABOTAGED WHICH KILLED CAPTA~AVIDSON AtJD Ll[UTFA~ROWN INFERRING\nQ..\nTHAT THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE THE INTELLIGENE OFFICERS WERE CARRYING DISK\nI\\\nFRAGMENTS IN THEIR PLANE .\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THESE CALLS COULD ONCT\nHAVE COME FROM THEMSELVES, SMITH OR ARNOD, AND DENY THAT THEY ~ADE THE\nCALLS .\nNO RECORD OF THE CALLS AS HAVING BEEN MADE FROM ARNOLD-S ROOM\nIN THE WINTHROP HOTEL CAN BE LOCATED .\nDAHL AND CHRISrAN ARE EVASIVE AS\nTO JUST WHAT INFORMATION THEY DID FURNISH BY PHONE OR LETTER TO RAY\nPALMER .\nERNIE VOGEL, UNITED PRESS WIRE MAN , TACOMA, WASHINCTON,\nSTATE IT APPEARS THE BOISE STATEMAN- S PAPER AND KENNETH ARNOLD HAVE\ny"
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   "n": 143,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p143.jpg",
   "text": "~\nj RECEfVEO\n·p27 2 36 PH '( ·'\nINT!RNAt .S!CUlfTY\nF'. B. l.\n:, .. : ~pr, \"IF Jtl c ­\n.., '·\n'I..\nI\nI"
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   "n": 144,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p144.jpg",
   "text": ",.\nPAGE FOUR\nBEEN PUSHING THE PUBLICITY ON THE FLYING DISK STORIES.\nVOGEL STATES\nTHAT ARNOLD \\•JAS EI,ER THE FIRST OR ONE OF THE FIRST TO CLAIM HE HAD\nSEEN FLYING DISKS .\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN STATE THAT ARNOLD ADMITTED RE­\nCEIVING MONEY FROM RAY PALMER to COME TO TACOMA TO CHECK T'//f. DISK\nSTORY.\nUNLESS ADVISED TO THE CONTRARY BY THE BUREAU, THE BUTTE OFFICE\nAT BOISE, IDAHO, WILL OBTAIN ALL INFORMATION REGARDING THE CONNECTION\nBETWEEN THE BOISE STATEMAN-S PAPER AND KENNNETH ARNOLD .\nWILL INTERVIElJ\nKENNETH ARNOLD , ROUTE ONE, t>'OUNTAIN VIE\\~ DRIVE, BOISE FOR WHAT INFOR~lTIGJ\nHE HAS AS TO THE ABOVE FACTS AND WHAT INFORATION HE FURNISHED RAY PALMER\nAND THE BOISE STATEMAN REGARDING THE TACOrA MEETING AND THE SABOTAGE\nOF THE B TUENTYFIVE.\nTHE CHICAGO OFFICE AT CHICAGO WILL INTERVIEW RAY\nPAL~ER, EDITOR OF FRANTASY MAGAZINE, REGARDING HIS CONNECTIONS WITH\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN AND ARNOLD AND WHAT INFORMATION EACH FURN,ISHED TO HIM .\nWILL ALSO ATTEMPT TO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORrATION CAPTAIN EMIL H. SMITH\nFURNISHED THE CHICAGO TIMES .\nTHE SEATTLE OFFICE AT SEATTLE WILL\nINTERVIEW EMIL H. SMITH , THREE NAUGHT TWO SEVEN WEST LAURELHURST\nDRIVE ALONG THESE SAME LINES .\nWILL ALSO ASCERTAIN WHAT INFORt1ATION THE\nFIRr CHIEF AT\nCHRISMAN .\nWILCOX\n!\nACK IN ORD PLS\nCG\nOK FBI CG MDG\nBT\nOK FBI BT VGW"
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   "n": 145,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p145.jpg",
   "text": "•\n.....\n'\n.\n\\ '\n..._ . Y?E Ul-l l\nREC -\nAue 7 9 39 PM '47\nr-.l3.I. DEPT. o. JUSTICE\n:::.\nC.\nc;:\n,:\")\nt,:.· · -m ­~­\n:,\n,T:\nCD\nm\n\"\"'\n-! -\n~\n.\n(J\"1\n. .\nCl {\"\n~ .....\"\nw\n,._\n-.J\nc... -\nC:\nrr.\n-::,,a\n=~\n....\n\"'\n::!\n\\\n..\n(\"\"\nC)\n...C,.\n:z,\n~\n--.,\n• ._,;n, :JO 'l e.:.:\n., ·g ':J\n,;••WJO:J3S 1~NH3.J.N1\n•.f1, Wd 9£ 2 Ll d:·\n03Al303~"
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   "n": 146,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p146.jpg",
   "text": "• ., ~\n·, /\n.Pf: ·::; /\n~\nIr.I'.\nIr Ro~•\n1t:L'ETYPE\n• 1l'aov\nr Gur•en\nFBI SEATTLE\n8- 12-47\n(\n~05 PN PST\nKLS\n:RECTOR AND SACS CHICAGO AND BUTTE ~\nRGENT\n1::· tr~\nSIGHTED BY FR~ISMM! AND HAROLD ~L, TACotlA , ~N·: • ,\nSM DASH X .\nREMYTEL AUGUST SEVEN LAST .\nEMIL ~ITH, UNITED A!RLIMES\nPI~OT , INTERVIEWED RE ASSOCIATIONS ijITH HAROLD A, DAHL , FRED C4RISMAN\nAND KENNET1~ARNOLD IN TACOMA , WN . , FROM JULY THIRTYONE TO AUGUST THIRD\n'\nLAST .\nSMITH HAS RECEIVED PREVIOUS PUBLICITY FOR HAVINC SEEN FLYING\nDISCS OR SIMILAR OBJECTS ON JULY FOURTH LAST IN CO~PANY WITH HIS CO­\nPILOT , RAL~\nEVEMS, DURING ROUTtiNE UNITED AIRLINES FLIGHT OUT OF\nBOISE , IDAHO .\nSMITH RELATES THAT HE WENT TO TAC0t1A , WN . , FRot,1 SEATTLE\nON THURSDAY , JULY THIRTYONE LAST IN RESPONSE TO TELEPHONE CALL FROM\nKENNETH ARNOLD AT TACOtA .\nSMITH CLAir:s HE HAD PREVIOUSLY MET ARNOLD\nON TKO OCCASIONS , THE FIRST TIME ON JULY FIFTH LAST IN OFFICES OF\nSEATTLE POST- INTELLIGENCER HHERE BOTH WERE INTERVIEWED RE FLYING\nTHEY HAD SEEN, ANO ON SECOND OCCASION IN BOISE, IDAHO, ABOUT .THREE\n\\-!EEKS AGO \\.Jl.{ILE HE , SMITH , WAS PASSING THROUGH ON ROUTINE FLIGHT •\nm;\nTHIS LATTER OCCASION , ARNOLD iJAS HJ CO>IPANY OF CAPTAIN1 DA'VIDSQtJ\nAND LIEUTENAITT DRGJ;TN,\nARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICERS ,\nAND\n\\1J'\"OMNSOM OF THE IDAHO STATESMAN NEWSPAPER .\nSMITH CLAH'S NO\nACQUAINTANCE WITH DAHL OR CHRISMAN .\nSMI1H RELATES THAT ON\nJULy THIRTY ONE LAST IN TAC01,1A' WN . ' THE DAHL /\\ND CHRIS;jAN ·sroRY' WHICH\nBOTH HAVE SUBSEQUENTLY AD~ITTED TO BI FALSE WAS TOLD TO S~ITH~ARNOLD ,\nCAPTAIN DAVIDSON , AND LIEUTENANT BROUN BY C1iRISMAN AND DAHL ,\nSUBSEQUEST\nTO T'HS INTERVIEW, CHRISMAN GAVE CAPTAIN DAVIDSON AND BRO\\iN A BOX OF\nFRAGMENTS WHICH THEY A~Yls TOO}( WI~H THEM ON\nFATAL FLIGHT.\nSMITH STATES ...IlLA, ON !~•T)JiHMY·, :AliC.t!S1Z'F:J:.R~J LAS7,\n1/\nrllVEXEo :;~c,1...,.. -\n~ .;;, a / 7-•\nO\n,•'\\/AFTER LEARNING or THE CRASH AMD DE(\\ TH OF DAVIDSON AND BROUN , AR 1oLD\nC!LLED RAYitflNi,;..PALMrn , EDITOR OF Tll~~TllnE PRESS IN EV1!8TON, IL:.INOIS\n, ~\nl\nAND WAS TOLD BY PALMER TO DISCON~,Ni~ HIS INVESTIGATIO\nO THE DAHL­\n.\nS!.. \"MONEY"
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   "n": 147,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p147.jpg",
   "text": ", . ..\n....\nI\nI\nJ u\nJ.\nI ·u ·.:1\nJ./~flJ3S 1VNU3J.U,\n' ri'd ..i:-c; _ C,0\n~rz• d."
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   "n": 148,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p148.jpg",
   "text": "Sr'ITH RELATES Tl11\nHE AND APJ~6Ln MADE s~B~E-\nST ATTEMPTS To co\n.,.\nTO ~AURI ISLAND WITH CRISMAN AND DAHL ON FRIDAY, SATURDAY AND SUNDA~\nAUGUST FIRST, SECOND AND THIRD, DUT WERE PUT OFF BY CHRIS1•1AN 41s) DAHL\nFOR Vl\\RI OUS REAS0~1S,\nSMITH STt1 TES THAT REPOF. liR[C'ANTZ OF TACOMA TIMES\nA~ELLO OF UNITED PRESS OFFICE TACOM/\\ INFORMED HHi AND ARNOLD OF THE\n•\nA1JOt,YMOUS PHONE CALLS , AND FROM ACCCURACY OF THE INFO TRANSMITTED BY\nTHESE ANONYMOUS CALLS, SMITH BELIEVES THEY WERE MADE BY EITHER DAHL OR\nCHRISMAN.\nsj'rTH ADi'1ITS CALLING HIS PERSONAL FRIEND MAURIC~DY,\nAVIATION EDITDR OF CHICAGO TIMES, ON FRIDAY, AUGUST FIRST LAST, TO INFOR·t\nHIM OR THE TACOMA INCIDENT AS PER A PREVIOUS AGREEMENT BET\\o:EEN THEM THAT\nSMITH WOULD LET RODDY IN ON ANY FLYING DISC STORIES WHICH HE ~IGHT RUN\nINTO .\nSMIT\nALSO ADMITS THAT HE TOLD REPORTER JOHNSON OF IDAHO STftTESM~\nIN TELEPHONE CONVERSATION SATURDAY NIGHT, AUGUST SECOND LAST , THAT CAPTAm\nDAVIDSON AND LIEUTENANT BROWN WERE CARRYING FhACMENTS WITH THEM ON THEIR\nFATAL FLIGHT.\nSMITH SAYS THAT DAHL TOLD HIM ON SATURDAY NITE AUGUAT\nSECOND LAST THAT HE, DAHL, IF CONTACTED BY THE ARMY OR OTHER AUTHORITIES\nUAS GOING TO SAY THAT. THE ENTIRE STORY WAS A HOAX.\nSMITH STATES THAT\nHE TOLD HIS COi'PLETE STORY TO MAJOi' S'\\NDERS OF ilCCORD FIELD, TAco:·A, ON\n. SUNDAY\nt10RM INC' , AUGUST THIRD\nLAST , AND THAT ARNOLD LEFT TACOMA .\nUNLESS ADVISED TO CONTRARY, LANTZ AND liORELLO WHO ARE BOTH TACOMA\nNEWSPAPERMEN ~ENTIONED ABOVE, WILL NOT BE CONTACTED FOR VERIFICATION\nOF !Ila SMITHS STC~Y ABOVE .\nUNABLE TO LOCATE FIRE CHIEF OF HARBOR ,\nTO (rR IFY INFOP.MAT I ON\nRECEIVED BY HIM FROM DAHL AND CHRISMAN .\nS_I~CE THIS STORY OJU.~T...;n ru_s:ATTLE\n- ·\n,.\n'-\"\n~\\.-\n~\nPAPER THIS LEAr IS\n-\n,\nI\nINTtRVIEWS WIT\n/\\BOVE HILL\nDAHL AND CHRISMAN\nWILCOX\nFBI WA BW\n\"~U.\nBf.ING DI!.-... 1.,.. ,.'INEED­\nLETT£~ COtTAINING COMPLETER\nII . OF. IER PLS\n10-30 PM OK\nOK FBI CG DBR\nBT\n0\n.-:'.)K FBI BT HEW"
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   "n": 149,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p149.jpg",
   "text": "I\n...\n' \"Ztvr:i T Lf.TYPE: u\nAue 12 10 33 PN 'q7\n@?'\n=>\nc.:.>\nc..n\nV1\n(D\n~\n·­J\n..i:;..\n.__,\n.....\nerr\nC\nITI\n-0 _,\nC:H\n-ii\nc:...\nC:\nen\n::!\nc:­\n..\nrn\n,..­.­\n;:;,~­\n--·\na\n:IC"
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   "n": 150,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p150.jpg",
   "text": "Mr . T ra )'\nMr\n\"\nMr Cun n\nUr. l\nMr.~\n•\n..\n.•\nUr. P<\n~>.-ton .. . .\n111r. Qu\nr\nm\nCA~\n•\nf.\nIUUAU OJ ••YEltlGAflN\nU. 8. DlPUTIEIIT Of WlllCI\n•\nttt,tS ltCTNI\n:x7 ,\n, R\n,;»)\nc/\nFJe~ r-\nWASHINGTON FROM SFRAN S5\n8-6-47\n12-09 PM\n~ECTOR\nURGENT\nqEL,..XING DISCS, SM;_ X. RE PORT~AND TELETYPE REFERENCING PHONE\n,\nFROM MR. LADD AT BUREAU ONE PM AUGUST FIFTH LAST. A-TWO SAN FRAN­\nCISCO UNABLE TO VERIFY. LT. COL. DONALD SPRINGER A-TWO HAMILTON\nFIELD, IN CHARGE OF INVESTIGATION BY A:.rwo IS THOUGHT BY A-TWO\nTO BE RETURNING FROM KELSO, WASHINGTON AREA HAVING GONE TO_KE~\nUPON LEARNING OF DEATHS OF AAF INVESTIGATORS MENTIONED IN REFERENCE\nTELETYPE. HE PLANNED, UPON DEPARTURE, .TO OBTAIN RESULTS OF AAF\nINVESTIGATORS OR REINTERVIEW PERSONS MENTIONED IN REFERENCED TEL­\nETYPE. SPRINGER WILL BE CONTACTED UPON HIS RETURN AND.._ BUREAU\nADVISED.\n630C . KIMBALL ~\n/(7 ·~✓"
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   "n": 151,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p151.jpg",
   "text": "•\nn1:c E1vEo !t~R¥PE'llf/\"°1''U ~r3\nAue 6 4 ~~ ·rM '~7 :I\n\\\nI\n' I\n•\n'I•\n, I\n• j),\n:;o\nm\nn\nc:::>\nr.,\nN\n<\n0\\\ni'T1\n'o"
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   "n": 152,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p152.jpg",
   "text": "•\n..\nI\nEP 10\nTELETYPE\n•\n{\n.oM\nr\n9\"\n9- 5.:;\n:·••••••• URGEilT••••"
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   "n": 153,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p153.jpg",
   "text": "'\n.,\n•\n.•.. u\n.\nLr~ r,d 80 I OI cb~\n..\n,. ' --• ,usnr :lO ·1d30 ·s·r\n8 .J\n,­\n.....\n...\n, J'rl 13.\\ :i ; uo1 •' r\n~···•"
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   "n": 154,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p154.jpg",
   "text": "f ....\n•\nibbl?ral ilur.eau nf lnu1?sti9ation\nUnifl?h ~uit.l?s i11?purtm1?nt of Yust icl?\nNew York, N. Y.\nIN REPLY, PLEASE REFER TO\nF ILE N O.-----­\nSeptember 4, 1947\nDirector, FBI\nAttention:\nFBI Laboratory\nRe :\nMrs. A. ~IS, Informant\nDear Sir:\nReference is made to Bureau lette\nted July 21,\naddressed\nto Mrs. A. G. SARBANIS, 66 Notre Dame Avenue, HioksVl.\nsland, New\nYork, a copy of which was sent to the New York Office .\nYrs . SARBANIS was interviewed by Special Agent William A. Johnson\non August 12, 194?, at which time she advised that this coded message had\nappeared in \"Newsday,\" the local newspaper of Nassau and Suffolk County,\nLong Island, New York.\nShe stated that the message had appeared in the\n\"County Irritant, 11 a feature of this paper, and had been signed \"Radio Ham.\"\n~(r. JACK ALTSCHUL, City Editor of 11Newsday,\" Hempstead, New York,\nwas interviewed and advised that this article had been sent to the newspaper\nby letter which was signed \"Radio Ham,\" and explained that he had no way of\ndetermining the identity of the writer.\nMr. ALTSCHUL stated that it was his\nopinion that the code had been made up by some local 11 screwball\" who had\nbeen affected by all o,Yhe newspaper publicity that had been given at that\ntime to the story abou~ fly:i.ng discs .\nThere is enclosed an article appearing in the July 12th issue of\n\"Newsdayl' concerning this coded message, which might be of interest in this\nmatter .\nUnless advised to the contrary, no furtaer effort is being made\nto establish the identity of the person who signed himself \"Radio Ham.\"\n.."
  },
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   "n": 155,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p155.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n..\n:o\nt\n'l\n: .,"
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   "n": 156,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p156.jpg",
   "text": "I\n•\n? / J.i/'/7 &,,~\n\"\n. COUNTy'\\\n!IRRITANT\"\nlrom our Mail lox\nComing His Way\nMerrick-Out all day yesterday\nlooking for a house to rent, but\nno luck. I yot so disgusted I ended\nup in a tavern and got lit. When\nI got home and went in the house\nI SAW FLYING SAUCERS IN\nAIR!\n-No Foolin.\nGarbles\nWestbury- B,. 11 more Radio\nHam's message seems to be from\nsome gentleman occupying an\nOlympian height. As with many of\nthese erudite souls, the sender can­\nnot resist including a few \"garbles\"\nin his code. Or is our Ham guilty?\nHere is your message: TffiED OF\n~\nH U M A N NONSENSE WONT\nAWAIT ATOMIC WAR DISTURB·\nJNG SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT\nFLYING DISKS AND WILL SET\nUP WORLD UNDER MARTIANS\nLATE THIS YEAR.\n- Simple transposition. Hope all\nyour readers are appropriately\nwarned.\n-Stephen M. Schuster.\n(Other ungarblers got \"outlaw\"\n( ATLAW)\ninstead\nof \"await,\"\n• isrupting\" instead of \"disturb•\nI g.\"\nMiss Rita Flood of *t\nashington expects the wo ld\nENCLOSURE\nder to be set up under \"\n•\ni.ter.\" Is Radio Ham satisfied\nErl:)\nBECOM.lilf)"
  },
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   "n": 157,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p157.jpg",
   "text": "STANDAf!-0 FORM NO. 64\n-\n•\n•\nOffice Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n,,,\nMr. J. P. Coy\nDATE:\n{\nTO\n9/17/47\nMr. Tolson\nllr. E. A. Tam_\n\\\nFROM\nW. v. Cl eveland\nMr. Clegg\nMr. Glav1-n-­\nllr. =--~---_-_\nSUBJECT:\nMrs . A . d\nrbanis\n::: ~~;~~Is__\n11r. 1'racy-­\nInformant\nllr. carso-n-­\nMr. Egan._-_-_-_-_\nMr. Gurnea__\n::: ::hrbo-t-\nYou will recall that a letter was received from the Ml\". PeM-,ng=t=on­\nllr. Qu!nn Tam­\nabove captioned individual dated July 10, 19b7, in which she\nTele. Room\n­\nMr. Neas•-­\ninclosed a newspaper clipping signed \"Radio Ham.\" This news­\nM!ss Ho~\nM188Gan<ly­\npaper clipping contained a coded message which Mrs. Sarbanis\ndecoded.\nThe FBI Laboratory checked Afrs . Sarbanis' decoding of\nthis message and advised that it was substantially correct.\nThe\nLabocatory ' s decvding of the message is being set forth below:\n\"TIRED OF HUMAN NONSENSE i'/ONT AWAIT A'f£!,MIC WAR\nDISRUPTING ORDER SOLAR SYSTEM SO SENT\"7'LYING\nDISKS AND WILL SET UP WORLD ORDER UNDER MARTIANS\nLATE THIS YEAR.,,\nThe New York OJ/ice was asked to interview Mrs . Sarbanis to\ndetermine from what newspaper the clipping in question was obtained .\nThey were further instructed to contact this newspaper in 9n effort\nto ascertain the identity of the p er son who sent in the coded message,\nin order that the person might be interviewed for information a? ncerning\nthe alleged receipt of the coded message.\nBy letter dated September 4, 1947, the New York Office\nadvised that they had ascertained from Mrs . Sarbanis that the coded\n• message had appeared in 11Newsday, \" the local newspaper of Nassau and\nSuffolk County, Long Island, New York.\nThe City Editor of this news­\npaper stated that the original had been signed only \"Radio Ham\" and\nknew of no way of dete rmining the identity of the write r. It was the\nCity Editor 's opinion that the code had been made up by some local\n\"screwball\" who had been affected by all of the newspaper publicity\nthat had been given to stories concerning ''flying discs .\"\nThe FBI Laboratory has now advised that the FCC maintains\ntheir amateur records by a geograp hical breakdown as well as by call\nl etters and that the Laboratory could possibly get the names of all\namateurs in the Bellmore, Long Island, New York Section in the event\nit is desired that another attemit be made to identify the person who\nsent this coded message to the 'News~ay. t, ;_ _ [ ...\n.1\n. \"\nrl\nRECOMMENDATION: It is recommended th\n. o further action be taken in\nconnection with this matt e r in view j the opinion ~xp~essed by the\nCity Edi tor of the \"Newsday \" that the 1ette~'rebe i\\,-ed'\" by hfm si gned\n11\n\"Radio Ham\" was from some local \".screwbat\n.\nf\"\n~~~:;~•-9 -17,6\n~\n~~~\n~"
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   "n": 158,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p158.jpg",
   "text": "•\nc_...,\nC ...;\n---\n..... ..\n\"'i\n.:LJilS(II iO .1.a::!O ·~\n_: 8\n80 v~npt\n'l JIN\n?, rlc~hi) ZI\ne1 rl;\nl .i/\\l;JJ~·>,\n~~\nL , , , uZ d3S\nI I"
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   "n": 159,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p159.jpg",
   "text": "•\nOffice\n'\nMemorandum\nh.\n• UNITED STATES GOVERN MENT\nTO\n:~ireotor, FBI - Attentions Assistant\nDATE:\nDirector D. M. LADD\nFRO~\n:\nSAC, San Francisco\nSUBJECT:\nLYING DISCS\nThere is transmitted herewith for the information of the Bureau\na report received from Lieutenant Col onel DONALD L. SPRINGER, A-2. Hamilton Field,\nCali fornia, contai ning the results of an investigation by his office concerning\nthe reported sighting of flying discs.\nIn addition to containing ~he detailed descriptions of what was\nallegedly seen by several persons, the Bureau's attention is particularly called\nto the first memorandum setting forth the notes of Agent FRANK M. tRONN, CIC,\nFourth Air Force, concerning an interview he had with Mr. KENNETH\nRNOLD, Box\n387, Boise, Idaho, who reported that on July 12, 1947 he had seen ine strange\nobjects flying over the Caacade Mountain Range of Washington State. It will be\nnoted that ere Agent BRO\\'IN reports that\"Mr. ARNOLD is very outspoken and somewhat\nbitter in his opinions of the leaders of the United States Army Air Forces and the\nFBI for not having made an investigation of this matter sooner.\"\nThe thought has occurred to me that the Bureau might desire to have\nan agent of the Butte Office contact Mr. ARNOLD and explain to him our lack\njurisdiction in such matters.\nHMK,emb\nEnclosure\nAuthority\nNND 90986\ncg"
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   "n": 160,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p160.jpg",
   "text": "•\nCQ-VI~JUNG\n____ x l'H _AIR_FORCE .. •\n.\nCl-j.1.\n_ :i..A~~mt.Jhj.~f...9.£..~t~rr.... A-:.2...\n---· Hamilton.. Fie1d,....Ce.lif ornie. ................. .\nTrru:\nFlying Discs .\nINVESTJGATioN llADE AT . .P.~l.m..Siu:ing§. .... Qalif........B.oi.s..e-...\nIdci.ho....and..Hamil t.on.. Field_...s;alifor nia..._..........._.__\nCoNTRoLLING OFFICE ..Ai1:.. ~f~n.s.fL.C.omman.d....................... .\nFILE No. D333. 5_ID {4AF-l208- Il_.... _.\nPERion coVEREo ft.Qm..1.0 ... Jul...~u..:t.o..1.a ... J.ul. .. 4.7.__..___._\nCA.SE CLASSIFICATION ..f.Jl~i9~1lt................................. -••-••--•\nDATE ... .1a ..Jul y _1947 ........................... .\nSTAros o\" CASE •••••••.••:r.~mU.ng...................... -············-········\nREASON FOR INVESTIGATION:\nInvestigati on initiated at the request of Headquarter s Air Defense Coillllland\nreference lett er Headquarters Air Defense Command, dated 7 Jul y 47, File D333 . 5 ID,\nsubject :\nInvestigation of Flying Discs.\nSYNOPSIS :\nFlying\\~sc s first reported in this area 24 June 1947 near Mt . Rainier, Wash. ,\nby Kenneth :M. \\!'\"rnold (Incl 1, Exhibit A)\nUnidentified object reported 9 July 1947 at appr oximately 1277 near Boise, Idaho ,\nby David N. Johnson, Aviation Editor, Idaho Dail y Statesman. (Incl 2, Exhibit B)\nUnidentified objects reported by Capt . E. J\\Smith, United Air Lines Pilot,\n4 July 1947 • eight minutes out of Boise, Idaho. (Incl 3 MOIC, Incl 7 News Clippings\ndated 5 July 1947)\nRecord check of law en\\o;oement agencies, public utilities, and local residences\nrevealed no recor d of Richard~Rankin in Palm Springs. (Incl 4)\nUnidentified objects repori_ed 8 Jul y 1947 at 1245, t r avel ing nor theast over\nHamil ton Field by s/sgt Edward Ry' Baker, (Incl 5• Exhibit I)\nUnidentified objects reported over Grand Canyon, Arizona, 0910 MST by Lt. \"• G.\nMcGinty, USN (Incl 6) and in vicinity of Lake Mead by Lt. E. Bl Armstr ong, Hq Tenth\n\\ ~ir Poree , Brooks Field, Texas. (Incl 6).\n'I\n\\\nExtent of publicity in local area indicated by press cl ippings. (Incl 7)\nDISTRIBUTION\nAPPROVED:\n·-··-···-··-·AAF ----··-·-········-- -\n••.••• 2 •••••.•\n·····-··-·····ADC\n------·-· ••.••_1_.____\n4AF Fil es\n...-.1 --·\n~8Nl\"llllfN'JIIA.t.\nJUL 241 7\nf ~\nW,D.,P. M,G, Form.No, 110\nl April 19-«\n(Tbid\"\"\" oupened.e. W. D~ 0. C. S. Form No. 19, wlilcb\nwill -\nbe .....io- ....,pt olthia reYiDOo)"
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   "n": 161,
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   "text": "Inoident\n4AF 1208 I\n16 July 1947\nMEMORANID:U FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:\nl .\nOn 12 July 1947, '{r . Kenneth Arnold. Box 387, Boise, Idaho,\nwas interviewed in regard to the report by l!r . Arnold that he saw 9\nstrange objects flying over the Cascade '•ountain ~ange of ,fashington\nl\nState on July 25th.\nMr. Arnold voluntarily agreed to give the intervieW'9r\na written report of exactly what he had seen on the above mentioned date.\nThe written report of Ur . Arnold 1s attached to this report as -..xhibit A,\nAOEUT'S NOTES :\nllr. Arnold 1s a oan or 32 years or age, being narried and\ntho father of t•,To children.\nEe is well thoutht of in the co'1llllunity in\nwhioh he l ives , being vary much the fanily man and frou all appearances\na very good provider for his family.\nl'r. Arnold has recently purohased a.\nhone on the outskirts of Boise, recently -:>urchased a ts.ooo airplane in\nwhich to conduct his business to the extent of which is explained in the\natto.ohed exhibit . It is the personal opinion of the interviewer that 1'r.\nArnold actually saw what he stated that he saw. It is difficult to believe\nthat a Man of 'lr . Arnold ' s oharaoter and apparent integrity would state\nthat he saw objects and write up a report to the extent that he did if he\ndid not see them .\nTo p o .further. 1f Yr. Arnold can write a report of the\noheraoter thnt he did while not having seen the objects that he claimed he\n(\nsaw, it is the opinion of tho interviewer that er. Arnold is in the wrong\nII\nbusiness. thnt he should bo writinr; Buck Rogers notion.\nI.I?- . Arnold is\nvery outsRoken nnd somewhat bitter in his opinions of the leaders of the\nU. S. Army Air Forces R.Dd \"nie \"'Federnl tfureau of Investigation for not having\nmade an investigation of this matter sooner.\nTop ut all of the statecents\nmade by Ur . Arnold in this report would make it a voluminous volumo.\nHowever,\na~er having cheoked an aeronautical map of the area over •hioh Mr. Arnold\nclaims that he saw the objects it was determined that all statements made by\nMr. Arnold in regard to the distanoos involved, speed of tho objects, oourse\noV the objects and site of the objects, could very possibly bo facts.\nThe\ndistances mentioned by Mr . Arnold in his report are within a short distance\nof the actual distances on aeronautical charts of this area, although !r .\nArnold has never consulted aeronautical charts of the type the Anny uses .\nMr . Arnold stated that his business had suffered greatly since his report\non July 25 due to the fact that at every stop on his business routes, large\ngroups of people were waiting to question him as to just what he had soon.\n'tr . Arnold stated further that if ho, at any tine in the future, sow anything\nin the sky. to quote lli- . Arnold dirootly, \"if I saw a ten story building\nI\nI"
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   "n": 162,
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   "text": "l\nIncident\n4AF 1208 I\nflying throu·gh the air I would never say a word about i t \", due to the\nfact that he has been ridiculed by the press to such an extent that he\nis practically a moron in the eyes of the majority of t he population of\nthe United States.\n1 Incl:\nExhibit \"A\"\n[\nFRANK M. BROifN, S/A, CIC 4th AF\n>\n• I"
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   "n": 163,
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   "text": "• J\nSOME LIFi\n1\nDATA ON KENNETH ARN\nI was born Uarch 29. 1915 in-Subeka. l'innesota.\nl,~y father's nru::ie was\nEd,m.rd Erb Arnold; my mother ' s maiden name was Bertha E. Barden.\nI we.s a\nresident of Minnesota until I was six years old whon my family moved to\nScobey, Uontana, where they homesteaded.\nMy r,randfather. Roland c. Arnold\nalso homesteaded in Scobey, l 1ontana, and became quite prominent in political\ncircles along with Burton K. Wheeler. the famous !lontana senator.\nI went to grade school and high school at Minot, }forth Dakota.\nI\nentered scouting at twelve years of age and achieved the rank of Eagle scout\nbe.fore I was fourteen .\nMy former scout executive was H. R. Prescott, now a\nregional commissioner for the Boy Scouts in Kansas City, Kansas.\nAs a boy, I was interested in athletics and was selected as an all­\nstate end in 1932 and 1933 in the state of North Dakota.\nI entered the\nu. S. Olympic trials in fancy diving in 1932; I was a Red Cross Li fe Saving\nExaminer during the years of 1932,\n133 and '34.\nI taught swimming and diving\nat scout camps and the municipal pool in llinot, north Dakota .\nI went to the\nUniversity of llinnesotu, where I swam and did f ancy diving under Neils Thorpe,\nand also pl ayed football under Bernie Bierman, but upon entering college I\n1'9.S unable to continue ny football career because of an injured knee .\n1~y\nhigh school football coach was Glenn L. Jarrett, who is now the head football\ncoach of the University of North Dakota .\nI had littl e or no finances. and\nmy ambition in furthering my edi cation in college was through my·athletics.\nAs a boy in Hinot, North Dakota, I did a good deal of dog sled racing, placed\nfirst with 11\\Y dog in 1930 in the Lions Club Dog Derby.\nIn 1938 I went to work for Red Comet, Inc. of Littleton, Col orado, a\nmanufaoturer of automatic fire fighting apparatus.\nIn 1939 I was made\ndistrict manager for them over a part of the western states, and in 1940 I\nestablished my own fire control supply known as the Great \\Yestern Fire\nC6ntrol Supply.\nI have been working as an independent fire control engineer\nsince, and I handle, distribute, sell and install all types of automati c and\nmanual fire fighting equipment in the rural areas over five western states.\n!Jy flying experience started as a boy in Uinot. North Dakota, where\nI took 11\\Y first flying lesson from Earl T. Vance, who was originally from\nGreat Fal l s , llontana.\nDue to the high cost at t hat time , I was unable to\noontinue m.y flying and did not f ly of any great consequence until 1943.\nI was given my pil ot certificate by Ed Leach, a senior CAA inspector of\nPortland, Oregon, and for the last three years have owned my own airpl ane\ncovering my entire territory with same and flying from ~or ty to one hundred\nhours per month since .\nDue to the fact that I use an airplane entirely in\nmy work, in January of this year I purchased a new Callair airplane, which\nis an airplane designed for high altitude take-offs and short rough field use .\nIn the type or flying I do, it t akes a great deal of practice and\njudgment to be able to land in most any cow pasture and get out without\ninjuring your airplane; the runways are very limited and the altitude is\nvery high in some of the fields and places I have to go in my work.\nTo\ndate, I have landed in 823 cow pastures in mountain meadows, and in over\na thousand hours a flat tire has been my greatest mishap .\nB r:\" r~·\n:I:;\ncoNFI\nLd.\n.J. .1.. ~"
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   "n": 164,
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   "text": "jONFI)?E~'Tii~L\nBY KENNETH ARNpLD\n•\nThe following st ory of what I observed over the Cascade mountains ,\nas impossibl e as it may seem, is positivel y true .\nI never a sked nor wanted\nany notoriety for just accidently being in the r ight spot at the r ight time\nto observe what I did .\nI reported something that I know any pil ot would\nhave r epor ted .\nI don't think that in any way my obserTation was due to any\nsensivity of eye sight or judgment than what is considered normal for any pi lot.\nOn June 24th, Tuesday, 1947 , I had finished my work for the Centr al Air\nService at Chehalis, Washington , and at about two o' cl ock I -took off from\nChehal is, Washington, airpor t with the intention of going to Yakima , Wash.\n!fy trip was delayed for an hour to search for a large marine transport that\nsupposedly went down near or around the southwest side of Mt . Rninier in the\nstate of Washington and to date has neTer been found.\nI f l ew directl y toward Mt . Rainier after reaching an altitude of about\n9, 500 f eet, which is the approximate elevation of the high plateau f r om which\nMt . Rainier r ises .\nI had made one sweep of this high plateau to the westward~\nsear ching al l of the various ridges for this marine ship and flew to the west\ndown and near the ridge side of the canyon wher e Ashford, Washington, is l ocated .\nUnable to see anything that looked like the lost ship, I ma.de a 360 degr ee\nturn to the r ight and above the little city of Mineral, starting again towar d\nMt . Rainier .\nI cl imbed back u~ to an altit ude of appr oximately 9, 200 feet.\nThe ai r was so smooth that day that it was a r eal pl easure flying and\nas most pilots do when the air is smooth and they ar e f l ying at a higher\n1\nal titude , I t r immed out my a i r pl ane in the dir ecti on of Yakima , Washington,\nwhich was al most dir ectly east of my position and simply sat in my pl ane ob­\nserving the sky and the terr ain .\nTher e was a DC- 4 t o the left and to the rear of me approximatel y\nfift een mi les distance, and I should judge, at 14,000 foot elevation.\nThe sky and air was as clear as crystal .\nI hadn ' t f l own more than\ntwo or three minut es on my course when a bright flash reflected on my\nairplane.\nIt startled me as I thought I was too close to some other air­\ncraft.\nI looked every pl ace in the sky and couldn ' t find wher e the r efl ec­\nt i on had come from until I l ooked to the left and the nor th of Mt . Rainier\nwher e I observed a chain of nine peculiar looking air craft f l ying f r om north\nto south at approximatel y 9, 500 feet eleTation and going, seemingl y , i n a\ndefinite dir ect i on of about 170 degr ees .\nThey wer e appr oaching Mt . Rainier very r apidly, and I merely assumed\nthey were jet pl anes.\nAnyhow, I discovered that this was where the refl ec­\ntion had come from, as two or three of them ever y few seconds woul d di p or\nchange their cour se slightly, just enough for the sun to str ike them at an\nangl e that r eflected brightly on my plane.\nThese objects being quite far away, I was unabl e for a few seconds t o\nmake out their shape or their formation .\nVer y shortly they appr oached Mt .\nRainier, and I observed their outline against the snow quite pl ai nl y .\nI thought it was ver y peculiar that I couldn ' t find their tail s but\nassumed they wer e some type of jet plane .\nI was determi ned to clock their\nspeed, as I had two definite points I could cl ock them by; the air was so\nclear that it was very easy to see objects and deter mine their approximate\nshape and size at almost fifty miles that day.\nI remember distinctly that my sweep second hand on my eight day clock,\nwhich is locat ed on my instrument panel , read one minute to 3 P.M. as the\nfir st object of this formation passed the souther n edge of Mt . Rainier .\nI watched these objects with great inter est as I had never befor e obee rved"
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   "n": 165,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p165.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n.\nairplanes flying so close to the m9untain tops , flying directly south to\nsoutheast down the hog ' s back of a mountain r ange .\nI would estimate their\nelevation could have varied a thousand feet one way or another up or down ,\nbut they were pretty much on the horizon to me which would indicate they\nwere near the same el evation as I was .\nThey f l ew like many times I have observed geese to f l y in a r ather\ndiagonal ohain-like l ine as if they were linked together. They seemed to\nhol d a definite direction but rather swerved in and out of the high mountain\npeaks.\nTheir speed at the time did not impress me particularly, because I\nknew that our army and air forces had pl anes t hat went very fast.\nWhat kept bot her ing me as I wo.tohed them flip and flash in the sun\nright al ong tpeir path was the fa ot that I oouldn ' t make out any tail on\nthem, and I am sure that any pi l ot woul d justify more than a second look at\nsuch a plane.\nI obser ved them quite plainly, and I estimate my distance f r om them,\nwhich was al most at right angles, to be between twenty to twenty-five mil es .\nt knew they must be very large to observe their shape at that distance , even\non as clear a day as it was that Tuesday.\nIn fact I compared a zeus fastener\nor cowling tool I had in my pocket with - holding it up on t hem and\nholding it up on the DC- 4 - that I could observe at quite a distance to my\nleft, and they seemed smaller than the DC- 4; but. I should judge their span\nwoule have been as wide as the furtherest engines on each side of the\nfuselage of the DC- 4.\nThe more I observed these objects, the More upset I became, as I am\naccustomed and familiar with most all objects flying whether I am cl ose t o\nthe ground or at higher altitudes .\nI observed the chain of these objects\npassing another high sno,.,- covered ridge in between :.:t . Rainier and :.!t . Adams•\nand as the first one was passing the south crest of this ridge the last\nobject was entering the northern crest of the ridge .\nAs I was flying in the direction of this particular ridge, I measured\nit and found it to be approximately five miles so I could safely assune that\nthe chain of these saucer like objects were at least five miles lone .\nI\ncould quite accurate1:, determine their pathwny due to the faot that there\nwore several high peaks that were a little this side of them as well as\nhibher peaks on the other side of their pathway.\nAs the lest unit of this formation passed the southern most hig~ snow­\ncovered or e st of I.'t . Adams • I looked at my sweep second hand and it showed\nthat thoy had t r avolled the distance in one minute and for ty-two seconds .\nEven at the tiree this timing did not upset me as I felt confident after I\nwould l and there would be 3ome explanation of what I saw.\nA number of news men and experts suggested that I might have been\nseeing r efl ections or even a mir age .\nThis I know to be absolutely false ,\nas I observed these objects not only through the glass of my airpl ane but\nturned my airplane sideways wher e I coul d open my window and observe the\nwith a completely unobstructed view. (iithout sun gl asses)\nEven though two minutes seems like a very short time\ngr ound, in the air in two minutes time a pilot oan observe\nthings ~nd anything within his sight of vision pr obably as\nsixty ti11es.\nI ~ontinued my sear ch for the marine plane for another\ntwenty minutes and whil e sear ching for this marine plane, w\nobserved kept eoing through my mind.\nI became more distur,\ntaking L last look at Tieton Reservoir I headed for Yak\n( . ."
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   "n": 166,
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   "text": "I might add that my complete obseryation of these objects, which I\n•\ncould even follow by their flashes .as they passed Mt. Adams , was around two\nand one-half or three minutes -- although, by the time they reached Mt . Adams\nthey were out of my range of vision as far as determining shape or form.\nOf\ncourse, when the sun reflected from one or two or three of these units , they\nappeared to be coopletely round; but, I am kaing a drawing to the best of my\nability, which I am including, as to the shape I observed these objects to be\na.s they passed the snow covered r idges as wall as Mt . Rainier.\nWhen these objects were flying approximately str aight and l evel, they\nwere just a bl ack thin line and when they flipped waR the only time I could\nget a judgment as to their size .\nXhewe objects were holding an al most constant elevation; they did not\nseem to be going up or to be coming down , such as would be the case of rockets\nor artill ery shell s .\nI am convinced in my own mind that they were some type\nof air plane, even though they didn't conform with t he many aspects of the\nconventional type of planes that I know.\nAl though these objects have been reported by many other observers\nthroughout the United 3tates, there have been six or seven other accounts\nwritten by some of these observer s that I can truthfully say must have ob­\nservied fthaasa~etthiijzJihat I did;rEa~ti~ularly. the descriptions of the three\nWestern/Xfr Linijsf~mp! oyees, the/genitiman f rom Olclahona City and the locomo­\ntive engineer in I llinois, plus Capt Smith and Co-Pilot Stevens of United Air Lines .\nSome descriptions could not be very acourate:itaken from the gr ound unless\nthese saucer-like disks were at quite a great ·height and there is a possibl ity\nthat all of the people who observed pecul iar objects oould have seen the same\nthing I did; but, it would have been ver y difficult f~Oll\\ the ground to observe\nthese for more than four or five seconds, and t here is always the possibil i t y\nof atmospheric moisture and dust near the gr ound which could distort one's vision.\nI have in my possession letters from all over the Uni ted States and people\nwho profess that these objects have been observed over other portions of the\nworld, principall y Sweden, Bennuda, and California.\nI woul d have given almost anything that day to have had a movie\ncamera with a tel ephoto l ens and f rom now on I will never be without one\nbut, to continue further with my story-\nWhen I landed at the Yakima , \\iash.,\nairpor t I described what I had seen to my very good friend, Al Baxter, who\nl istened patiently and was very oourteous but i~a joking way didn ' t believe me .\nI did not accurately measure the distance/t~e\\p these t wo mountains\nuntil I l anded at Pendleton, Oregon, that sane day ~, ere I told a number of\npilot f r iends of mine what I had observed and they did not scoff or laugh but\nsuggested they might be guided missiles or something new.\nIn fact sever al\nfor mer Army pil ots informed me that they had been briefed before going into\ncombat over seas that they might see objects of simil ar shApe and design as I\ndescr ibed and assured me that I wasn ' t dreaming or goi ng crazy.\nI quote Sonny Robinson, a former Army Air Forces pilbt who is now oper a.­\nting dusting operations at Pendleton, Or egon, \"l\"ihat you obse rved, I am con­\nvinced, is some type of jet or rocket propelled ship that is in t he process\nof being tested by our government or even it could possibly be ,by some for~i~\ngovernment.\nAnyhow, t he neY1s that I had observed these spread very r P.:J.i.etly and\nbefore night was over I was receivin& telephone calls from al l ?aris of\nthe world; and, to date I have not recoived one telephone call or one letter\nof scoffing or disbelief .\nThe only dit;belief t hat I know of was what wa is\nprint ed in the paper s .\nI l ook at t his whol e ordeal as not something .f'unny as some people have\nmade it out to be .\nTo me it is mighty s~rious and since I evidently did"
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   "n": 167,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p167.jpg",
   "text": "..\nobserve something that at least Mr·. John Doe on the street corner or Pete\nAndrews on the ranch has never heard about, is no reason that it does not\nexist .\nEven though I openly invited an investigation by the Arrey and the\nFBI as to the authenticity of my story or a mental or a physical examination\nas to my capabilities, I have received no interest from these two important\nprotective forces of our country;\nI will go so far as to assume that any\nreport I gave to the United and Associated Press and over the radio on two\ndiffer ent occasions which apparently set the nation buzzing, if our Liilitary\nIntell igence was not aware of what I observed, they would be t he very first\npeople that I could expect as visitors.\nI have received lots of requests from people who told me to make a lot\nof wild guesses. I have based what I have written here in this article on\npositive facts and as far as guessing what it was I observed, it is just as\nmuch ·a mystery to me as it is to the rest of the world.\nMy pilot ' s license is 333487.\nI fly a Callair airplane; it is a three­\nplace single engine land ship that is designed and manufactured at Arton,\nWyoming as an extremel y high performance, high altitude airplane that was\nmade for mountain work.\nThe national certificate of my plane is 33355.\n/s/ Kenneth Arnold\nBox 587\nBoise, Idaho\nThey seemed longer than wide , their\nthickness vras about l/20th of' their width\n-;-;:t;. u~/\n-C-~7 Mirror Bright\nThey did not appear to me to whirl or spin but seemed in fixed position.\nI have made drawing .\n/s/ Kenneth Arnold\nCONFIDENTIJA. L"
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   "n": 168,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p168.jpg",
   "text": "•\nIncident\n4AF 1208 I\n16 July 1947\nMEMORANDUlA FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE :\n1. On 12 Jul y 1947, a oall was made at the newspaper office of\nthe \"Idaho Daily Statesman\", Boise, Idaho. The aviation editor of the\npaper, Mr. David N. Johnson, was interviewed in regard to how well he\nknew Mr. Kenneth Arnold of Boise , Idaho, and as to the credibility of\nany statement made by Mr. Arnold.\nThe purpose of this interview was an\nattempt to verify statements made by Mr. Kenneth Arnold on 26 June 1947,\nto various national news services to the effect that he, Mr. Arnol d,\nhad seen 9 objects flying in the air above the Cascade Mountain Range\nof Washington.\nThese objects were subsequently referred to as f l ying\nsaucers or flying disks and will here -in-a~er be referred to as such\nin this report. Mr . Johnson stated that he had known Mr . Arnol d for\nquite a period of time, having had rel ations with Mr . Arnol d on various\noccasions, due to the fact that both he, Mr. Johnson, and Mr. Arnold\nwer e private f liers and frequently got together to t al k shop.\nMr. Johnson\nstated that as far as he was concerned anything :,r. Arnol d said could be\ntaken very seriously and that he, Mr . Johnson , ac:tually believed that Mr .\nArnold had seen the aforementioned flying disks .\nMr . Johnson stated that\naf'ter Mr. Arnol d reported having seen the flying d~sks, that the editor\nof the paper had assigned him, tLr . Johnson, the ass~gnment of taking the\nairpl ane bel onging to the newspaper and exhausting al l errorts to prove\nor disprove the pr o·b~h i H .t y of f l ying disks having be~n seen i n the\nnorthwest. ar ea.\nThe results of th1s assi gumo~t t;o ''r. Johnson and what\nhe subsequently sa.w is put .forth in a sworn statement; signed by Mr . Johnson\nattached to this report as Exhibit~.\nAGENT ' S NOTES:\nJ:r . Johnson is a man of appr oximately 33\nI to 35 years of\nage .\nFr om all appoarances he is a very reserved type o.f p~r son.\nMr.\nJohnson has l ogged 2800 hour s of flying time in various typ~s 0£ ai r pl anes\nup to and including multi-engine air craft .\nDuring par t of the war years,\n~r . Johnson was the first pil ot of a B- 29 type air cr aft being assigned-to\nthe Twentieth USA.AF and stationed on Tinian Island, in the Paci£ic.\nI t '\nis t he per sonal opinion of t he interviewer that M'.r. Johnson actuolly saw\nwhat he states that he saw in t he attached report .\nIt is al so t he opi ni on\no.f t he interviewer that Mr . Johnson would have much more to l ose than gain\nand would have to be very strongly convinced that he actually saw son2ething\nbefore he woul d report such an incident and open himsel f for t he ridi cqle\nthat would accompany such a r eport.\n11 B11\n1 Incb Exhibit\nS/A, CIC lfth AF\nFR.A.NJC M. BROWN,\n\\"
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   "n": 169,
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   "text": "ea~\n~FT :d-,.,_ T -\n.... ,. J\nf - ur: ~ 1.,:r.n n.i-...f\n..\nS~atement of David N. Johnson\nat Boise, Idaho , July 12 , 1947\nTo i1hoa It Jlay Concer n:\nOn the sixth day of July, 1947, I received from James L. Brown,\ngenernl manager or the Statesman Newspapers, incorporated in Ida.ho as\nThe StateS1!18.n Pri nting company, an assignment which was in substance:\n11Conduct an aerial sear ch or the northJirest states in an effort to\nsee and photograph a flying disc .\nConduct this pat r ol for so l ong a time\nas you bel i eve reasonabl e, or until you see a flying disc.n\nIn accordance to these instructions , I took the Stat est'lan ' s airpl ane ,\nand with Kenneth Arnol d as passenger, flew a seven and one-hal f hour mission\non the seventh day of July, 1947.\nThis mission was without r esult.\nIt\ncovered an area embr acing the confi nes of the Hanford plant in ~ashington ,\nand territory between and around !Jit . Rainier and Pt. Adams, where Arnold\nfirst reported seeing objects hencefor th described as saucers or discs .\nOn the eighth dny of July, 1947, I took an AT- 6 of the 190th Fighter\nsquadron, Idaho national Guo.rd, of which I nm a member , and flew to northerrt\nIdaho , into north,vestern Montana briefly, to Spokane , Vashington, e.nd back\nto 3oise by vre.y of ~·lalla 'Walla, 17e.shington, and Pendleton, Oregon.\nThis\nsear ch also was negative .\nOn the ninth day of July , 1947 • I continued the search, a.gain using a\nnational guard AT- 6, this time centering ny efforts over the Ov,yhee mountains\nwest and south,rest of Boise, a portion of the ~ountain Home desert on a track\nsoutheast of the Mountain Horne e.rmy air base, thence into the Sawtooth moun­\ntains, and back in the gener al direction of Boise on a line carrying me well\nto t he nor th of the Shafer butte forest service lookout station, into the\nBorse5hoe Bend area, and t hence back in a soutlnvesterly direct ion to a point\nbetween Boise and the village of Mer idian, west of Boise a few mi l es ,\nDur ing this search, which l asted approximately two and one- hal f\nhours, I flow under and around r apidly forming cumulus clouds over that\narea known as the Cai:cas Prairie, east of Boise .\nThe clouds were near the\nvillage of Fairfield in that vall ey, and Fairfiel d is 75 miles air line\ndistance east of Boise .\nAt that timo I saw nothing in the vicinity of\nt hese clouds.\nAt the time I reached the point between Boise and ?£eridian, I was\nf l ying at an al titude of 14, 000 feet mean sea l ovel, which woul d be a mean\naver age of 11,000 feet above the earth i n this area , not oonsidering errors\nin the altimeter induced either by barometr ic changes since my takeoff, or\nby the temper ature at that altitude .\nI turned the aircraft on an easterly hes.dine, pointing toward Gowen\nField, and had f l ovm on that course for perhaps a minute when ther e suddenl y\nappeared in the l eft hand portion of my fiel d of vision an object which was\nbl ack and round.\nI immediatel y center ed my gaze on the object .\nAt that time . due to its\nerratic movement , I thought I was seeing a weather ball oon.\nI called the\nCAA' s comnuni cation stati on at Boise , and asked if the weather stat ion had\nr ecently r el eased a bal loon.\nThe repl y from communicator Al bert son was t hat\nthe bureau had not .\nI do not r emember his exact wor ds; I am under the\nimpr ession he said \"not f or several hours\" or go.ve me the exact time of the\nprevious r elease• which ,vas around 08: 30 t hat day."
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   "n": 170,
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   "text": "Upon he aring this response , I turned the aircraft br oadside\nto the ob j ect , pulled back the plexigl a s s covering to avoid any\ndistortion, took my camera f r om the map case , and exposed about 10\nseconds ' duration of eight millimeter motion picture fi l m.\nDuring\nthe time the camera was at eye level, I could not see the object be­\ncause of minuteness of scope introduced by the optical view finder\nwith which the camera , an f . 1 . 9 Eastman, was equipped .\nTaking the camera away and once again centering my gaze on the\nobject , I observed it to roll so that its edge was presented to me .\nAt this time it flashed once in the sunlight .\nIt then ap~eared as a\nthin black line .\nIt then performed a maneuver which looked as if it\nhad begun a slo,v roll , or a barrel roll , which instead of being com­\npleted , was broken off at about the 180- degree point .\nThe object\nrolled out of the top of the maneuver at this point , and I lost sight\nof it .\nrhis entire performance was observed against the background of\nclouds previously formin£ over the Camas Prairie .\nThe object appeared\nto me , relatively, as the size of a twenty- five cent piece .\nI do not\nknow hov1 .far away 1t was .\nI do >1ot know, nor can I truthfully estimate\nits speed .\nI can only say it was not aD airpla>1e , and if it was at a\nvery sreat distance from me , its speed Ylas great , taking into consider­\nat l on· that apparent speed is reduced to the viewer if an object is a\nvery great di Btance away .\nI forgot to look at my clock to determine the exact time I saw\nthe object .\nThe OAA's log of radio contacts shows my f'irst contact\nto rave teen made at 12 : 17 hours .\nBut a few seconds elap~ed between\nthe time I f'irst sow the object , and the time I called the 0AA 1 s station .\nI subsequentl y related over the radio a description of what I\nsaw, and communicator hlbertson may remenber it .\nThe control tower may\nhave a recording of the conversation .\nI have not checked to determine .\nThe purpose of my relating over the air what I saw was to ·enable\nranid tra'!'lsr>tission of the report to the newspaper, for at that time I\nwas on assignment and my energies thenceforth were devoted to (1) trans ­\nmitting the information and (2) conducting a further search, which I\ndid after landing for fuel and to make some telephone calls .\nrhe next search, begun within half an hour after landing from the\nfirst one, consumed another two hours , but ,.,as negative .\nI explored\nthoroughly the region where I saw the object .\nImmediately after eighting the object, I asked if tPere were other\naircraft in the area .\nThere v1as a P- 51 of the 190th squadron practic­\nirig maneuvers in the vicin:lty of Auna , but that was behind me .\nA C- 82\npassed over Boise , but I saw that aircraft go beneath me by some 2 , 000\nfeet .\nThe P- 51 in the vie inity of l\\una proceeded to the area v1here I\nsaw the objec1<, at my request, and conducted a search .\nIt was nega t i ve .\nDuring the afternoon, flights o.f P- 5ls were sent out to cover the a r e ~,\nand some of them flew h18h altitude missions on oxygen.\nThese s earche s\nwere negative .\nI was subsequently informed that personnel on both the United Air\nLines side of Gowen fleld , and on the national guard side , observed a\nglack object maneuvering in f'ront of the same cloud formation, which by\nnow had grown so that the clouds reached a probable height of' 19 , 000 or\n20 , 000 feet from a m3an base of' 13 , 500 or 14 , 000 feet , mean sea level .\nThree of these men were national guard i;ersonnel and I talked to them,\nCONFIDENTI1\\ L"
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   "n": 171,
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   "text": "•\nsaw it .\nThis statement is made voluntarily and freely , in response\nto the request of Mr. Brown and Captain Davidson, who called on me\nthis morning.\n/s/ David N. Johnson\nSubscribed and sworn to before me , a notary public , this 12th\nday of July , 1947 .\n/s/\nGeo . L. Flaherty\nNotary public for Ada\ncounty Idaho .\nMy\ncommission expires\nJan 2 , 1949."
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   "n": 172,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p172.jpg",
   "text": "..\njONFDE\"I'T'T \" L\nI\nI ~ I I r~\n. .\n...,\n'\nChart to which reference is\nmade on page six, statement\nof David N. Johnson\n'f,\n,\n-:&.\n, ,\n-\n....\n-'<>\nI\n/\n/. 0---'\nThis design portrays the movements of the object to\nwhich reference is made in the attached statement .\nAt\nall times the object appeared as black.\nPositions (1) , (2)\nand (3) show the jerky, rising motion .\nPosition (4) is where\nthe object rolled , presenting its edge to me .\nIt then\nfollowed the dotted line , rolling over the top of the maneuver\nand disappearing at position (5) .\nCONFIDENTIP.t"
  },
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   "n": 173,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p173.jpg",
   "text": "• I CON~I~ ENJ]l~La\nCoJ:l\n·as~ing them to describe what they saw, before tel'i: 1ng them my story, Y\nin order to avoid suggestion or inrerence of a leading nature .\nThey\nsaw the object (from the grou1id) while I was on my second search .\n'l'hey believed the time to have been 14;00 hours.\nThe object peri'ormed\nin the same erratic manner , they said , as I observed .\nThe above is the extent of the story , and information concerning\nmyself is now in order .\nI have approximately 2800 hours of flying time in equipment\nranging from primary trainers to B-29s .\nOf course , that does not in­\ncrease my powers of observation except as to those practiced daily by\nan airman .\nIt does not make my eyesight any shurper except again a s\nto the incidental demands upon the eyes of a pilot .\nAt the time of the experience related above , I had flown four ­\nteen and one - half hours on an assignment to find a disc and if possible ,\nto photograph it .\nIn all frankness , I was tired .\nI may have been\nsuffering , although slightly , from want of oxygen .\nPrior to sighting the object, I had concluded there was no point\nin pressine the search, that I probably v1ould never see the disc - like\nobjects referred to by Arnold ~na by Captain Smith of United Air Lines .\nAt all times during the search, both on that day and the t~o\npreceeding days (particularly when I was with .Arnold) I had literally\ntalked to myself to keep beating into my head that I vo uld not fall\nvictim to the power of suggestion or self-hypnosis arising from a\nnaturally very intent desire to find a disc and bring success to the\nassignment given me .\nI therefore do not believe that I was the victim of suggestion\nor hypnosis .\nI am familiar v.d. th the optical illusion of a fixed object\nbeginning to move after it is watched a sufficient length of time .\nI\nknow what tricks the eyes will play as to moving bodies , and have l3 arned_\nof this particularly during night formation flying .\nI saw the object appear suddenly .\nIf it had moved in a jerky\nfashion (as it did at first) for the full length of time I observed it ,\nI would not be so strong in saying that I saw something not an aircraft ,\nnot a ballo'on, and not a corpuscle moving across the retina of either\neye .\nThe maneuver described by the object when its edge was presented\nt~ me convinces me that I saw an object actually i;:erforming in an\nerratic flight path .\nThe question remains , of .course , whether I saw it .\nThe motion\npicture fi l IJt, developed and processed by R. w. Stohr in the Eastman\nlaboratories at 241 Battery Street , San Francisco, showed no trace of\nany object . Stohr says that if it was more than a mile distant from me\nat the siz e I described , the ob j ect would not have registered suffic­\niently on the film to be shown.\nHe said it probably was too far away\nto be apparent even through great enlargement of' the -negative , and\nenlargement i n that case is limi ted because of the s i ze of the film\nand the fact I did not have any telescopic equi pment on the lens .\nThe\nexposure was f . 16, stop set at infinity, at a speed of 16 frames per\nsecond .\n•\nI have worried over this matter a great deal since seeing it.\nI \"took myself aside\n11 and said , \"come now , Johnson , don't be stupid 1\nBut I cannot bring myself to the point of thinking I did not see\nthing.\nThe impression of the moment was too vivid , too realist\nI knew in the air when I saw that partial slow roll or barr8l\nthat I was not a victim of illusion.\nI trust this matter will be of help to those investigati\nflying disc phenomena which have been reported .\nA chart is attached depicting the mov ements\nCONFID 2I~TI~A~L"
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   "n": 174,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p174.jpg",
   "text": "..\n1fONfID._!3N7IAL t\nIncident\n4AF 1208 I\n16 July 1947\nMEUOR»:mm FOR THE OFFICER IN CRARGEt\n1. On 12 July 1947, Captain Smith, of the United Airlines, was\ninterviewed at the Boise Municipal Airport, Boise, Idaho.\nCaptain\nSmith was passing through Boise on a schedule flight at the time and had\na 20 minute stop- over.\nCaptain Smith reiterated the statements originall y\nma.de by him to the press as to what he had seen in the late evening of July\n4th, when 8 minutes out of Boi se on the r oute to Seattl e, Washington.\nIt\nis the opinion of the interviewer th.at due to the positi on Captain Smith\noccupies, th.at he, Captain Smith, would have to be very strongl y convinced\nthat he actually saw f lying disks before he would open himself for the r id­\nicule attached to a report of this type.\n'\nFRANK M. BR<:fJN,.S/A, CIC 4-~H AF"
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   "n": 175,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p175.jpg",
   "text": "'\nIncident\n4AF 1208 I\n14 July 1947\nMEllOR.AllDUlJ FOR THE OFFICER IN CHA.\"R.GEt\n1. On 10 July 1947., a ohech we.s made at the follcwring locations\nin Palm Springs ., California for the purpose of t rying to l ocate Mr .\nRichard Rankin;\nPalm Sprint;s Police Department., Palm Springs Newspaper.,\n•The Desert Sun\"., Palm Springs Water Company., Southern California Gas\nCompany., Palm. Springs Telephone Company, Palm Springs Employment Office.,\nPalm Springs Chamber of Commerce., Royal Palms Hotel ., 5 Palm. Springs real\nestate offices, and the City Offices of Palm Springs inoluding waste\ndisposal, water r ights, tax records and etc.\nNo reoord of lir . Rankin\nexisted in any of the above mentioned offices.\n2.\nOn 11 Jul y 1947, Mr. Ryland M. Gorham, Postmaster of Palm Springs,\nCalifornia for the past 14 years ,,,as inter viewed.\nMr . Gor ham stated that\nhe had lived in Palm Spr ings f'or the past 24 years and that he was un.aware\nif a person named Richard Rankin had ever lived in Palm. Springs.\nMr .\nGorham stated that due to the fact that Palm Springs is a resort area and\ndue to the fact that in the summer months only 3 to 5 t housand peopl e resided\nin Palm Springs, whereas in the winter months 10 to 12 thousand resided in\nPalm Springs, it was very possible that Mr. Rankin could have lived in\nPalm Springs more or less on a non- per manent status and he, Mr. Gorham, not\nbeing aware o:f it•\nA oheok o:f General Delivery records revealed a. letter addressed to\n.Mr . Richard Rankin, Palm Springs, mail ed :fr om Cicero, Indiana, postn1arked\nat Cicero, Indiana, July 1947 ., at 5 P.M.\nThe return address on the\nenvelope was listed as the Gospel Tract Worker, Route 1., Cicero., Indiana.\nMr . Gorham permitted the contents o:f the envel ope to be examined inasmuch\nas the contents was 3rd Cl ass material and the envelope not sealed. The\nrecords were of a religious nature concerning the sad pl ight of .American\nnon- church goers, the second coming of Christ and etc.\nSuperintendent of\nMails was contacted by !Ir . Gorham and stated that there was a Mr . Richard\nRankin who had received mail through the general delivery office of the\nPalm Springs Post Office, but that the last mail, other than the letter\nmentioned above , came through the Post Office approximately two years ago. \"'-­\nThe Superintendent of Mails seemed to have a very uncanny memory and recalled\nwhere the mail ooming in for Ranki n had been addressed to.\nThis mail was\naddressed to Mr. Richard Rankin in care of a trailer camp located in Palm\nSprings .\nOn calling the trail er camp office, it was found that Mr. Richard\nR~n had lived in the camp but departed approximately t\\vo years ago and\nleft no forwarding address .\nInvestigation is continuing in an effort to\nlocate Mr . Rankin and obtain a statement from him.\n/\nFRANK M. BROWN,S/A, CIC 4th AF\n/\n•' t'\n•"
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   "n": 176,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p176.jpg",
   "text": "\"\n, eo~~I~~:E]AL­\nFLYING..rrscs\n4AF- 1208 - I\nl5 July 1947\nMEMORANDUM FOR THE OFFICER IN CHARGE:\nOn 15 July 1947 , S/Sgt Edward R. Baker, ASN RA 39576378, 467th\nAAF BU (ORD) , Squadron A, Hamilton Field , California, was interviewed\nand stated as follows :\nS/Sgt Baker has been in the Army ten years and\ntwo months , twenty- six months overseas duty in the ETO, and has been in\nthe Air Corps for about ten months .\nS/Sgt Baker stated that on 8 July\n1947 , he was going to Base Cleaners from his office and was passing\nalong the sidewalk near the barracks of the ORD when he saw five or s~x\nmen pointing toward the sky , but as he was use to this around an Army\nAir Base, he paid no further attention to it until a lieutenant and a\ncaptain ahead of him stopped and pointed in the same direction .\nHe\nstated that on glancing up he saw three objects traveling northeast\nacross the sky .\nTwo seemed to be traveling faster than an ordinary\nflight of P- 80s and he estimated the altitude between 9- 10, 000 feet\nand approximately 7- 10 miles away.\nS/Sgt Baker stated that the two\nobjects in the lead appeared to be round and of a very light gray col.or,\nwhile the object in the rear seemed to be either rotating or rolling\nbehind the other two .\nS/Sgt Baker stated that from a distance he could\nnot tell exactly the shape of the one which was rolling as it appeared\nto be turning over and he couldn ' t tell whether the object was flat .\nThe only means he had of identifying it was the fact that it seemed to\nget brighter and darker as it appeared to roll .\nThe objects were in\nsight approximately four seconds .\nAs he was in a hurry, he did not stop\nto talk to the other men but he heard one of them remark that the one in\nthe rear was certainly rolling fast .\nS/Sgt Baker was unable to identify\nany of the other men in the group who were reported to have seen the\nobject .\nBaker stated that it was unlike anything he had ever seen and\nthat he has been trying to convince himself that it was an optical\n.\nillusion, and yet at the same time he is certain that he saw the objects\nas described . (See Exhibit I) .\nNOTE :\nS/Sgt Baker appears to be intelligent and is a reserved sort of\nperson.\nHe was very reluctant to discuss the subject at first and\nappeared hesitant prompted by the possibility that he might be ridiculed.\nHe seemed to be honest and sincere in what he stated he saw , and said\nfrankly he was puzzled over the matter .\nA signed statement by S/Sgt\nBaker is attached .\n1 Incl:\nExhibit I .\n·~HLLIAM L. DAVIDSON, Capt , AC, ore er, 4AF"
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   "n": 177,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p177.jpg",
   "text": "• UNITED STA'\nS ;OVERNMENT\n,.\n65-481\nTO\nDirector FBI\nDATE:\nSeptember 2, 1947\n~\nFROM\nSAC Butte\nr)\nSUBJECT:\nFLYING DISCS\nRemy-tel August 20, 1947.\nWith reference to the above-described teletype, Mr. H. H. \\ HEDSTROM,\n322 Third Avenue North, Twin F~lls, !daho, was the principal source of infor­\nmation. Mr. HEDSTROM, who is the Executive Director of ~\nTwin Falls Housing\nAuthority• explained that he and his '¢.fe and Mrs. HENRY SHULTZ• a neighbor, were\nsitting on their front poroh at appro;rlmately 9s30 P. M., August 19, 1947.\nHe\nsaid that Mrs. HEDSTROM suddenly shouted and pointed to\nsky and therea.fter.\nstated that she had seen an object tra\\reling at a terrific rate of speed in a\nnortheasterly direction. The object was out of sight before Mr. HEDSTROM and\nMrs. SHULTZ could see anything•\nI\nWhile they were discussing what Mrs. HEDSTROM ha.d seen. approximately\nten minutes later all three saw ten similar objects proceeding rapidly in the\nsame direction in the form of a triangle. As the group of objects was dis~\nappearing, three of the objects on the left flank peeled off and proceeded in\na IIX)re northerly direction. The remaining objects appeared to close\nsaw\nranks and\nproceeded in a northeasterly direction.\nFrom three to five minutes later these same in vi us.ls\ngroup of three objects proceeding in the same direction, and again in\ne shape\nof a triangle. From three to f'ive minutes later all three observed another\ngroup in a triangular formation consisting of five or six objects.\nThey were\nproceeding in the same direction.\nA fevr minutes later the three persons saw a large group or objects\nestimated at from thirty-five to .fifty .flying in a triangular formation in the\nsame direction. Approximately twenty or twenty-five minutes after the large\ngroup of objects was observed, similar objects were noted cOl'.ning back over the\noity in a southwesterly direction. These objects were generally in groups ot\nthree• five and seven and followed each other at approximately five minute inter­\nvals.\nMrs. HEDSTR014 called Deteotive RICHARD A. FRAZIER of the Twin Falls\nPolice Department, a next door neighbor. who was then accompanied by M. E.\nROUNTREE and RICHARD SCOTT• aleo Ill:lmbers of the Twin Fal ls Police Depar~nt.\nThe three officers watched £or a f'ew minutes and observed a group of about\ntwelve objects flying in formation over the city in a southwesterly direction.\nThe IIJ3mbers of the Police Departm3nt did not continue watchiFng,ough Mr.\nal\nFRAZIER later saw other groups. which were also seen by the HE S\nand Mrs.\nSHULTZ.\nMrs. SHULTZ had also o\nled her husband, who saw s\nthe objects.\nn ~\n~},v>\n~-23\n\"'OPIES DES'T'DQVED \\fl1' 'f)l I\\(]\n~\n. \\ 0jr ~ if~ - 90\n2 7 0\nNOV 18 l!:104\n~ 'i .i4 $fl' '/{'1\n:5 n\nl\n~ ~"
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   "n": 178,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p178.jpg",
   "text": "'\n0\n.\n•\n.\n. ;n, :Ju' J.~\n•\n•\n·1·a ·:( ~\n-\n.,.LtY03iS 1YHH3!N:\n: I . Hcl Q I ll ~\n7-o\nI\n...\n..\n•\n...\n0\n•\n•\n•\n~\n..\n~\n'\n~\no...\n..\n...,\n<1\\ JU ~ • •\n.,·ca ~\n.,..,,.\n0\nv\n.\\\\\\n't°3S , ~~\\\\-;~~\\\n· ~ 60 <; ~ d- J\n\\ ~c.:\n•\n. \\·;\"''\":l·r ~\n03Af333M\n~\n/\n,\n/"
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   "n": 179,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p179.jpg",
   "text": ",\nI\n'\n'\nBT 65-481\nOn the night in question the sky was overcast and the objects could\nnot be seen closely; however, they were distinct enough so that all persons\ncould observe wlat they desoribed as a glow going through the air. They said\nthat the objects appeared to be lighted .t'rom the inside and were of a color\nsimilar to regular electric lights.\nDetective FRAZIER and Ure HEDSTROM both stated tmt they could not\nbe rm!lteors or comets, that they flew on a l evel line and did not appear to\ndrop. They flew at a terrific rate of speed and were visible for only a few\nminutes at a titll3 •\nBoth persons interviewed said that the objects could not\nhave been geese or ducks and tbl.t the lights were not a reflection of the city\nlights on s0l'IJ3 object or objects.\nNone or the perscns inter'Vi.ewed noticed any flames or anything except\nthe glow of lights. None o:f the persons who claimed to have seen these objects\nwere drinking at the time• No other persons in TWin Falls reported seeing the\nobjects mentioned herein; however, Mr. HEDSTROM and Mr. FRAZIER stated that it\nwas purely by accident that they had seen the objects and the.t they would not have\nseen them unless they were looking for th.em• because of the speed at which they\ntraveled.\nOn acoount o£ the overcast sky they were unable to estimate the size\nof the objeots or the height at which they flew.\nNo :further investigation is being conducted by the Butte Off'ice, and\nthe case is being closed.\nRJG:Fo•s\n-\n2 ­"
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   "n": 180,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p180.jpg",
   "text": "\\I) FORM NO. &I\nI\n' '\n\"\n'\n- '\nOffice Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nTO\nDirector, FBI\n0 S\nDATE: Septenber 4, 1947\n'<._: /\nAm.MAIL\nFROM\nSAC, San Francisco\nSPF.cIAL DELIVERY\nC'\nSUBJECT:\nREPCRTS OF FLYING DISCS\nFhclosed is a copy of a letter dated August 28, 1947,\nfrom Lt. Col. OONALD L. SPRmGER of A-2, Hamilton Field, Calif.,\nwith an attachment referring to the sighting of a fiying object\nby Captain JA~CK and his co-pilot, VmGa :r,At'l, near Bethel,\nAlaska.\nPhotostatic copies of this letter and attachment are\nbeing forwarded to tll3 Anchorage Field Office. In accordance\nwith Bureau Bulletin #42, dated July 30, 1947, Anchorage is\nrequested to interview Captain JACK PECK and his co-pilot, vmcE\nDALY, preferably separately, in order to cbtain all details of'\ntheir reported sighting of a flying object on August 4, 1947.\nThe San Francisco Field Office should be furnished t~ copies\nof the results of these interviews for distribution to the Sixth\nArmy IntE!lligence.\nDWK:MR\n6.2-2938\n&lcls.\ncc Anchorage (:Ehcls.)\nAMSD\nRECORDED\n&\n(;, ~ -:__%_ 3-2_2)\n:IF'\nB\nlI\nINDEXED\n' 34 SEP ~~ 194\nA\nn\ns\nuJ"
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   "n": 181,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p181.jpg",
   "text": "~.~\n1✓ ')Y\nRECEIVED\n:PZ7 f 52f>N'i•''\nINTERNAL SICURfl\nF. B. I.\n~ ~PT. OF .If,!\" i\n)\ni\n,\n~ '\nI\nt"
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   "n": 182,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p182.jpg",
   "text": "SIGAK 000\nALASKA COMU.UMICATIOH SYSTE~, SIGNAL CORPS\nACS.AD\nSeattle 4• Uashincton\n19 August 1947\nSubjoct, Mattera or Nat ional Interest\nTo:\nCornt:10.ndinr; Gouerul\nFourth Air Foroe\nRan Franoisoo . California\nThe attached letter has been received fr om t he NCOIC of\nt he Al aska Col:llllunioation System station at Bet hel. Alaska.\nIt is submitted f or your information.\nFor the Coillllanding Officer :\n/a/\nSvend c. ::Ia.nsen\nSVEND C. HANSEN\n1 Incl\nCaptain. Si gnal Corps\nCy ltr fr llCOIC\nActing. Executive\nat Bet hel to Hq.\nACS , Sef\\ttl e\n33:S .5/1208-I\nlot Ind\n4AFDA\nHQ FOURTH AIR FO:t:E, l 1an:i lt.on Fiel d, Co.liforni a , 28 Aur;u:3 h 1947 •\nTO:\nSpooio.l Agent In Char ~e. FBI, U. S. Dopartr.ent or Justioe, Room 422,\n.Federal 0.ff'ico Buil 1i ng. Snn Fro.ncisoo, Cnlifor nia..\nForwnr dod for your lnfor~ntion.\n'~\nD0NAL1) L. SPRINGER\nl Incl\\~L.\nLt. Colonel, GSC\nn/o ,\nAC of S, A- 2\nAuthority:\nNND 90986"
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   "n": 183,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p183.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 184,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p184.jpg",
   "text": "--•~.M\n'\n'\nMemorandur/Z~ . UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nDirector , FBI\nDATE:\nAugust 27 , 1947\nSAC , San Francisco\nSUBJECT:\nREPORTS o.PFLYlliG DISCS\nAttention;\nAssistant Dir ector D. M. LADD\nReference is mde to my letter of August 8 , 1947 , with which there\nwere transmitted photostatic copies of three letters dated August 4 , 1947,\nentitl ed , \"Investigation of Flying Discs\".\nIn order to keep the Bur eau fully informed qoncerning this matter ,\nI am enclosing a letter dated July 28 , 1947 , entitled, \"Unidentifiable Ob­\njects\" furnished to me by Lt . Colonel DO ALD L. SPRil1GER, GSC , A C of S A- 2 •\nEnclosed with this l etter was a memorandum for the officer in charge written\nby LA./R::NC~ R. KIN, , JR. , Special A~ent CIC AdC dated July 15, 1947 .\nLt. Colonel DONALD L. SPRINGER furni::;hed me in person nith a memo­\nrandum entitled, \"Incident for AF 12O8- I \" dated August 5 , 1947 , and pre re\nby JA11.2S A. NBLSON , Special Agent CIC 4AF.\n------,.,.,..-._, -\"w\"\"~\nThe Bureau will be kept currently advised of any future informal\\~\nobtained in this matter.\nD,/KaVL\n62- 2938\nEnclosures\n20C"
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   "n": 185,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-2/p185.jpg",
   "text": "_,\n,-\n-:)\n...\n'Z\n~ :.-­\n0­\n-_;\n0\n' n\n~\n-:,, '\n%-\n\"\"\na\ner>\nul\n,J)\nJJ/ I <•\n(.)\nJ I\n\"\n4\nuJ\n1(1\nof>\n~ -:;\n._.,:,, i O\n0­\n·1 ·9 f\"· • •\n.,1n1n:11s ,tN~3lN,\n~ ' i !, ~ ,, '\nLZ d.\nL\nI"
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   "n": 186,
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   "text": "Authority:\nDECLASSIFIED\nNND 90986"
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   "n": 187,
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   "text": "t\n. --\nI\nt"
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   "n": 188,
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   "n": 189,
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   "n": 190,
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   "text": "1947\n~-\n'\nf\nMemorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n-\nTO\nD~TOR, FBI\nDATE: August 27,\n-1-~ FROM\nSAC, 3Al' r' wmc1sco\n-!.~\n0\nSUBJECT:\nR....,PORTS OF ..,LYTI.G DISCS\nAI''J. .J 7.J.ON:\ni\\S..,L:,T u~T DI::--t.....CrOii D . .. . L.aDD\nColonel ..:ii-'11.ING.i.!.i.t, .r·ourth Air Force, ,-ia.milton field, California, /i)~\ntelephonicilly advised ~peci.=u .ttgent .ICHALL J . Cn..:iSillY of the San Franciucfu..~\nUffice at 10: 40 ...won ,\\u0 ust 27, 1947, that a )crsonal letter !.ad been\nreceived by his organization from IL..;M{Y 1.cL....OD, city editor of the Suattl e\nTimes, wLich stated in effect that b.;cause Vere ,~<:are so I:Jany stories going\naround relative to flying discs and r~latcd r.1atter~, and that hi3 staff of\nreporters had been attemoti~~ to get reliable infon..ation concerni~ such\nstories, he was writing to inquir1;; Hhether any governmental agency was eoing.\nto make an official state1 cnt relative to the sitl.l.'.ltion pertainint, to the\nflyin_; discs;\ntr.at !.~. ....cLIDD al~o askec! ,•,hetheJ.' it ·.~ould be percissibl e for\n.is reporters to interview AIU~OL0, uA.tIL, and ShITH relative to this situation.\nColonel SPRI'NG:Z:: stated that the abo ·e-menti0ned letter was answered\npersonally b3 General t~ on ~u\"\"\"-ust 25, 1947, .::.nd a,~vise~ Mr. !IcLEOD that as'\nfa.~ 1.s th.., ..r.rey ,ur Force was concerned, they 1-iad no infon.ation which would\ndefinitely clear up the situation;\nthat as far as intervicvin5 persons, Mr.\nllcL!DD coulrl feel free to interview whoosoever '1e desired, in that there was no\ncensorsh~J at the rosent tie; that in the interest f economy, ul e rourth\nAir Force feadquarters would not run out every lead or report of flJi.n.c, discs,\nbut that if \\'Tdll- founded and an.;::arently reliable j nfornation were rece.:.ved, t 11at\nsuch information , ould be given attention.\n~\nu,\nUU)J'fl-.,\nA copy of this letter ;_s being fornarded to the Seattle Field Tlivision\nfor any action deemed advisable.\n62-2938\nD K/jo\n2 cc Seattle\nSEPef"
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   "n": 191,
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   "text": "I\n, _.; r,1 .:lu ,4(/ _\n·, ·9 ',:J\n-d.UJnoas ,,NH3J.NJ\n.·d'id OS i,\n' .'\n...\n6l t1\nI I\nJ '\n..., . .., \"\n• '?\" -\n­\n. - . l:i :1\nIt tt i '- • •\n•\nI,-,I\\ ] J.•\nt/1, 11d :.; I 6( :J,"
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   "n": 192,
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   "text": "IBS D\n1'\"'0Y,....D\nIJOV 18 1964\nl\\,-y,\\~ 1,1) ...-\nlfr. lmllON was quoted Qtf hM:ng oallea t h-6 Meh!.\nand was advised that the Bureau was not intere8ted, whenupon he notii\"ied\nthe Eastern Airlines and the Civil Aeronautic Authority- of the objects\nhe had seen. Both agencies are reported to have accepted the information\nstating they would investigate. The clipping further stated that Mr.\nWENYON had received no answer to date from either agency.\nThis clipping was submitted to me by the resident agents 1 o£!1ce at\nWilmington together with the advice that no agent in Wilmington had been\ncontacted b7 Ur. WENYON.\nI directed Kr. WENYON be interviewed to determine\nthe ful1 .facts.\n:rtr. '!JIENYON was interrlewed and it was determined that his correct name is\nHORACE P...,.JIENYON.\n1tr. WENYON advised that he had been an airplane pilot\napproximate'.cy thirty- years.\nHe stated that in SeptElllber of 1946, 71hile ~Ilg\nat an a1 ·.,itude of 1,000 feet, two or three miles south of Rehoboth Beach,\n.Dela~ .1.'e, he noticed a projectile approximately fifteen inches in diameter\nwhich crossed his course at right angles and was moving in a west-to-east\ndirection. According to lfr. WENYON, several jeta 0£ name were spurting\nfrom the object and it was traveling at a very high rate of speed, 11000\nto 1,200 miles per hour. He stated that in October of 1946, he observed a\nsimilar projectile while ~ing over Rehoboth Beach at 1,400 £eat~ 1bis\nwas also traveling from west to east.\n-----~---\nVr. 'WENYON stated that there is little question in his mind but that llbat\nhe saw was some sort of rocket being test,ed. He stated that he 111.shed to\ncall the matter to the attention of the appropriate authority inaSDQ.ch &-~\nhe thought that the series of airplane crashes that have occurred rsr\nmight in part be explained by what he had observed. He stated tr\nreported the information to th~ Givil Aeronautics Authority a\ntelephonically interviewe4 byr~porter from the Wi1Jningt0'\n~~~\n(\n~••.,;,--~\n4~ ~\n'f;t-vP\n1\n~\nI"
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   "n": 193,
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   "text": "--~\n.)\nL/Dir., FBI\n9/4/47\nFlying Discs\nMiscellaneous\n-•\n-\n.. '\n'\nMr. WENYON stated that what he had seen traveled at such a high rate\nof speed that it was very difficult to describe it, but the description\n11flying mayonnaise jars11 was concocted by the newspaper reporter.\nThis information has not been brought to the attention of any AI'Il\\Y\nsources in view of the fact that only a preliminary inquiry was con­\nducted on the basis of a news article which sets forth essentially\nthe facts obtained from Mr. WENYON.\nNo further action in this matter is contemplated by this office unless\nadvised otherwise by the Bureau.\nSB:arf\n62-0\nAttachment\n- 2-"
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   "n": 194,
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   "text": "•\nSUBJECT:\nTD,YTJi:\"r. nr!iC!\n~\n,-­\n.. q,nj\"o't~'...\"'J •Lil, ~ne:ton.\ntg Mayoififais\"l!-\"Ylt,-G\n.m:~\n•\nContinued :FTOm Fin. Page\n, r 1ged from the theory that they\n.-,,oi-ted by Rehoboth Pilot\n1 v, ere radio controlled flyu.1g miss!les\nstnt aloft by U. S. m1llt. ry scien­\n• tists to the suggestion that they\nmight be merely sun light reflected\non wing taw of Jet-propelled\nrest wenyon Believes Mystery DisCs,\n0\nplanes.\n' t-Propelled, May Have Caused Big\nA. B. Cross of Chattanooga, Tenn.,\na\n34-year-old\nwatchmaker,\nan­\nnounced he invented the \"flying\nsaucer'' and.submitted It to the War I\nPlane Crash on Memorial Day\neteran Delaware pilot, Forrest Wenyon of 123 Rehoboth Avenue,\nDepartment in 1943 but his idea was /\nth Beach, disclosed last night that In the past 10 months he has\nrejected as not practical \"at the\neen objects now being loosely described as \"flying saucers\" but\npresent time.·•\nhe calls \"flying mayonnaise jars.\"\nLater, he said, he became con­\ne particular di..t!erence between the mysterious object:! of Mr.\nvinced that the department elabo­\n•'s report and those which have now been observed in some\nrated on bis plan. His model was\n----=---------,40 states 1n that the former. accord-\npowdered with a rubber band, Cross\n' Jng to the pllot, held a true course\nsaid, but he bel1eved atomic power\nuntil they disappeared from sight.\nnow ls being used.\nThis would indicate a gu1f(w'\"...,.\nA Spokane, Wash., woman insisted\n, , J~t an aimed missjJe while thP.\nthe objects she saw were ot such\nc rse of the \"saucers\" has been\nsize that together they would take\nd cribed by observers as trratlc.\nup, the space of a five-room house\nr\nr. Wenyon said last night that\nif they landed, but a Clearwater,\nhe first saw what loosely resembled\nFI¾:. woman said the disks she ob­\na \"flying mayonnaise jar\" one after-\nserl ed resembled \"pie pans.\"\nnoon last September whi:P. flying at\nA1, Rutland, Vt., a woman re­\nabout 1,000 feet. It was late in the\nported she and her husband 1\n~ afternoon and the pilot was flying\nnessed a br!Jliant object in\ne\nnorth.\nnight sky which she assumed to e\nSuddenly, at an estimated distance\na \"flying saucer\" although it\nof 2,000 feet in front of his plane\nstationary.\nJ\n·and traveling from west to east, Mr.\nBut at Cambridge, Mass., a house­\nwenyon saw the \"jar.\"l was going\nwife said she saw \"a group of white,\nat tremendous speed\nt the p11ot\nflying saucers whirling around and\nnwas able to note sever\ntnings.\n/going at a tremendous speed.\"\nThe most important f these ob-\nThe Mas.sachusett.6 and Vermont\nhservatlons, insofar as ar xplanatlon\nreports brought to 40 the number\nis possible, is that the \"jar\" appeared\not stat.es in which the objects have\nbeen observed.\nto have some sort of rocket com­\nbustion.\nMr. Wenyon said that\nWith New England getting into\nthe game, the Harvard University\ns- ;urts of silver flame from the tail\nastronomical observatory took note :\nir\nCarrying out the description of\n1d\nemed to provide the propulsion.\nof the reports but said it had had /\nn\ne \"flying mayonnaise jar,\" Mr.\nno luck so far in photographing one\nof the discs.\n1-\nenyon said that the tall appeared\nll\nbe a lld which had been per-\nTl.e mysterious saucers first were\nreported June 25 in the State o\nforat.ed and that from these per­\n/) foratlons the flames escaped.\nWasnington, but Charlie T. Han,\nlet, superintendent of the Kingt.\n1!J\nIn a matter of two, at the most\nal three, seconds the object had dis­\nport! Tenn., Times News composln\nappeared owr and past Fort Miles.\nroom, said yesterday he had see\nthe discs two years ago,\n\"s The pilot did not see It land and\nw doesn't know whether 1t did or not.\nThey were \"of a. bright, aluminum\na\nThen on June 2 while flying at\ncolor\" and \"were going at terrific\nspeed,\" Hamlet said, explaining he\n•re l,* feet In a Stinson four• passen­\nkept quiet about them because of\nds ger ship Mr. Wenyon,~ pilot of 30\nthe ,.':>ak Ridge atomic bomb pli nt,\n'.I• ye s' experience, saw\nother \"jar.\"\ncommission said they had no con- es\ndidn't say much about it to\nthen a war secret.\nn(ction with the mystery_.\n·s. Re oboth Airport attac es although\nLester Barlow ot Stamford, Conn.,\nth\n~e West, which orlgmatec\\\ne ,e he did mention lt.\nr. Wenyon,\ninternational known explosives in­\nsa Jeer reports, continued to prxluce\nwith a theory In mind, called the\nventor, advanced the theory that\nob;ervers who claimed to have seen m\nederal Bureau of InvP.stigation.\nthe objects were radio controlled\nthe whlrl!ng dies and also bre:ught re\nres\nflying missiles.\nforth one deflationary explanation er him so, he said. He then called\nReports persisted that the Army\nof them.\nti\n1e East.e1 n Airlines and the Civil Aero­\n: was looking into the phenomena but\nBob Johnson, operator of a\ny-\nnautic Authority both of which\nGen. Cari Spaatz, Army Air Forces\ning service at Missoula, Mont., re-\ngave him a sympathetic hearing,\ncommandant, said he knew of no\nported he had captw·ed one of the or thanked him and said they'd inves­\nAAJ!' Plans to search for the saucers.\ndiscs and found it to be milkweed :\ntlgate.\n1\nThe Navy and Atomic Energy\nseeds.\nId f Or 'n\nTo date he has received no answer\nCharles Odom, 23-year-o\n-\n,\nfrom either.\nt\n1\nmer B-17 navigator, theorized a 1r\nMr. Wenyon's theory is that one of\nth\nHouston, Tex., that\ne obJects I these \"jars\" WM responsible for the\nmight be a version of radio-con-\n- 'lrash of the Eutem Airlines plane\ntrolled \"crystal balls\"\ned by th e\nI Port Depo,sit, Md., on Memorial\nNazis in the war.\n111•hieh kllled 53 persons. HP\nthe\nthe planes,\n,\nTl1ese balls, which flew to\nthe stories of that ac<:lder /\nt1t1.,de of the bomber and appare\nmd 1-olieves now that t}-, ,\nly v.ere magnetized to fly along w.\n···,on in mid-air, , ·•\nsent b·\nto rac\nib,,. 'lf witnesses. ·\n'qta on\nomb\n,...,,, ....,.."
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