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 "title": "65 HS1-834228961 62-HQ-83894 Section 4",
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   "text": "~ -\n--\n;:,i:CT ION 4\n62-fHQ~3894\nl1£CT!~ 4\nSE-RIAL C ~3~-1 85\niRiiS 131-185\nPICKE\nREET\n~\n.....\nQ:\n0\nr=:.\nu.. n\n:t­\n.....\n-\nC :,\n~\nFBI - CENTRAL RECORDS CENTER\n1•\n~\n.. fll\na,\nHQ - HEADQUARTERS\nClass I Case #\nSub\nVol.\nSerial#\n~\n185\n~\n~l z\n-\n~\n~\n! ....,\nI:\n,...\n~,==\ncc\nCG\nI\n..... . •\n-\n~\n,,,.--\n4\n~\n._\nI\n0\nu..\n,. .\n~\n'S\n::,\n~\n~\n::)\n0062 83894\n4\n131\n8/11/1274191\n1111111111111111\nRRP003IXGX"
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   "text": "...\n,\nOffice >\n-\nf\nMemu,,,,,,,rlum • UNITED ST.\nv~OVERNMENT\nTO\n:\nDIRJYJTOR, FBI\nDATE: October 9, 1947\nc,JoM :\nSAC, PORTLAND\nl\nSUBJECT:[ FLYrnG DISCS\nSECURITY MATTER - X.\nReference is made to Portland teletype dated September 13, 194?.\nRecords of the Radio Dispatcher, Portland Police Department, reflect\nthat first notice of unidentified objects in flight over the city on September 11,\n1947 was received from officers in District 18, which is in the extreme north­\neast section of the city, at 5:21 P.M.\nThe log further reflects that at 5:23 P.M.\nthe radio requested District 14, which is further south, to attempt to locate\nand identify the objects and that at 5:24 P.M. a report was received from the\ncar occupied by Chief of Police JENKINS, reporting that they had sighted some\nobjects. District 14 at 5:27 P.M. reported seeing nothing unusual in the sky.\nROBERT D. ADAIR; 4325 S.E. Madison Ave., Portland, advised that he was\none of the two officers on duty in District 18 on September 11. 'lhe car was in\nthe vicinity of N.E. 25th Avenue and Saratoga Court when ADAIR and his fellow\nofficer noticed a number of people looking upward and pointing. Upon looking at\nthe sky ADAIR observed the very bright reflection of the sun on some object\nwhich was apparently made of silvery metal. The object was coming from the east\nand made a wide turn over the city and disappeared to the south. ADAIR estimated\nits speed at about 150 miles per hour and its altitude at about 5,000 feet.\nHe watched it for a period of about two minutes and during that time it gradually\ndisappeared in such a manner as to appear that the angle was slowly changing,\nso that the sun was no longer reflected into ADAIR's eyes.\nHe says that the\nshape appeared to be round but that the glare was so bright that it could have\nhidden the true outline of the object. '!here was no oscillation visible - only\nsteady flight. ADAIR believes it was an ordinary metal airplane reflecting light\nof the afternoon sun.\n, ,\n1 :mnau:r, 1t'l'-'l\nJ. R. CALDWELL, 7652 S. E. Lincoln St., Portland, Oregon was ADAffi's\npartner in District 18 on September ll. CALDWELL states that the object appeai­\nred to him to take the same course as that described by ADAIR.\nHe pointed out\nthat the speed, height, and size of the object were difficult to judge, because\nof the interdependence of the three factors. However, he believes that the\nobject vrhen first sighted was about three miles away and about two miles high.\nHe believes it was traveling at a much greater speed than a conventional aii­\nplane and was a great deal larger. It appeared t o him to be elliptical in\nshape, and inasmuch as it did not bank or tip he could not judge its thickness.\nIt was of a very bright silver o~ ~\nsu tanco.\nRJiJCORDEn i J -i\n-93\n\"F~\n~✓::,OH\n19 C\nf 9\nCOPIES DESTROYED\n2 7 0\nNOV 18 l 9b4\no\nl"
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   "text": "PD 62-1531\nChief of Police LEON V. JENKINS advised that he was travelling south\non N. Williams Avenue near Russell St., when he and Officer H. s. RANEY, his\ndriver, received a call on the police radio requesting District 14 to attempt\nto observe an unknown object in the sky reported by officers in District 18.\nJENKINS observed what appeared to be a round silver object, about 10,000 feet\nhigh, travelling northeast to southwest. It was directly to JENKIN's left ffllen\nobserved first.\nHe thought it was a weather balloon.\nFurther observation con­\nvinced him that it could not be a balloon because of its speed which was extreme­\nly great.\nAs JENKINS watched, it turned gradually until it was travelling due\nsouth, and as it did so, its shape seemed to change until it appeared to be\negg-shaped. It disappeared in· about 30 seconds.\nPatrolman H. s. RANEY stated that when he first observed the object\nit was straight ahead of him and travelling straight away from his car.\nRANEY was driving south on N. Williams Avenue.\nTo RANEY it appeared to be just\na glare of sun on some object, and he was unable therefore to tell its shape.\nIt appeared to be very high and travelling extremely fast. It was out of sight\nafter he had travelled 4 or 5 city blocks at a speed of about 25 mph.\nRANEY\nstated that he has never seen an object at such an extreme height before and\nthat if the sun had not reflected from it he could not have seen it at all.\nHe believes it could possibly have been a reflection from a large airplane at\ngreat altitude.\nROBERT W. SHAYLOR, 4810 N. Fessenden St., Portland stated that he was\non duty in District 14 with Officer DONALD r'l. CO,JLit{G on September 11, 1947\nand received the call to watch for the object flying over the city. SHAYLOR\nand COWLING-immediately scaMed the sky f rom a vantage point in open territory\nwhere they could see the entire sky. They saw nothing in the sky at that time,\nSHAil.OR stating that they did not even see any airplanes.\nA short article in \"'lhe Oregonian\", Portland daily newspaper, for\nSeptember 12, 1947, describes the object as seen by Chief of Police JENKINS and\nalso states that 11The Oregonian\" received several calls from other persons\nreporting the object. FRED M. WHITE, Assistant City Editor, advised that the\npaper has no record of the identities of the people making the calls.\n62-1531\nIHK:tkw"
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   "text": "--\nTO\n,,\nc:!Jr--aoM\nSAC,\nSUBJECT:\nte Memor • m • UNITED ST/i\nJVERNMENT\n-\nDATE: 10/18/47\nDirector, FBI\nAnchorage\n(\nREPORT OF FLYING DISCS\nThis is to advise that we have been able to locate a\n.flyer, JA~K, who is employed by the Al Jones Flying Compa.cy in\nBethel, .Alaska.\nIt bad been ~ported to Military Intelligence that\nMr. PECK and his co-pilot VIN\nAJJi bad observed sane flying object\nnear Bethel, Alaska, in July, 194\nEff or ts previously to contact\nMr. PECK were negative until the above instance.\nHe related that the occasion of seeing the flying object\nnear Bethel was on a July day when the sky was completely clear of clouds,\nam it being during the early part, it is daylight the entire night.\nThe time of bis sighting this flying object was about 10 FM and the sun\nhad just dropped beyom the horizon. Flyir€ weather was extremely good\nam he, with Mr . DALY, was coming into the Bethel Airport with a DC-J.\nHe observed the flyiq,; object immediately to his left alli stated that\nit apparently was observed at approximately the same time by Mr. DAIX\nam both of them· manipulated the controls of the plane ma.king efforts\nto miss the object inasmuch as they could not tell in which direction\nit was going.\nThey made a forty-five degree t urn in order to get out of\nthe way of the object arxi then noted that it appeared to be going away\nfrom them.\nHe described the object as appearing to be some flying wing arxi s\nsaid that it appeared to be about the size of a C-54 without any fuselage.\nHe could not see any propellor or any exhaust f r om jet propulsion or any\nvapor trails arxi could not estimate the size due to his failure to be able\nto estimate the distance he was away from the object.\nHe was flying at\n1, 000 feet and stated that he tried to catch up with the object am in­\ncreased his manifold pressure to approximately 42 inc hes am was traveli!)g\nat the rate of 170 miles per hour.\n~t.A-,,L­\n'-.\ncc::::::\nHe called on his radio to the Civil Aeronautics J,dminis­\ntration station at Bethel, asking what aircraf't was in the vicinity am\nthey bad no reports of any aircraft.\nThe object he sighted vras\nsome five or ten miles from the airport before his arrival and stated\nthat the path did not go directly across the airport. He, of course, could\nnot tell whether the object was making aey noise arxi stated that it was\nflying at a thousand foot altittrle am estimated travel at 300 miles per\nhour.\nIt was travel ing in the direction from Bethel to Nome, which is in\na northwesterly direction.\nHe noted no radio interference and is unable to\ndescribe the color other than that it appeared dark but of definite shape\nand did not bl erxi into the sky but had a definite, concise outline.\na oth\nhe and Mr. DALY clearly observed the object at this time.\n~JtJo OR.u,el)\n,/\ng\n~ ii::lCD \\bl:1J 8'7T- I\n~\n\\\"?:>\\ p acr ~rx1•i . ~\nO'),\n~~~ ( QIJJ!' ~"
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   "text": "Anchorage File 100-1406\nIt may be stated to the Bureau that Mr.\n,\nPECK is a well\nknown flyer as well as Mr. DALY am both are known to be very reliable\nand responsible people• am it appears def'inite that they observed\nsomething.\nThe above is being submitted for the information of the\nBureau.\nLOT: I1,1R\n100-1406"
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   "text": "TO\n/\n/j)1-noM\nSUBJECT:\nDiraotor. FBI\nSAC, Albany\nFLYING DISCS./\nA. COURTNEV'.i?ARKER., INFORMAm\nReurlet dated 9/25/47•\nDATE : llovember 1. 1947\n.An. Agent of this office contacted Mr. A. COURXNEY PARKER at his resi•\ndenoe in South Royalton. Vermont and he stated that all the information he has con­\ncerning the flying disos he saw. is set forth in the letter that he sent to the\nBureau dated September 17• 1947.\nUr. PARKER advised that as far as he knows~ no one else in South\nRoyalton saw these flying discs., and that he believes ha saw them inasmuch as he haa\nwiwmally good eyesight and th.at he can see bees. etc. further than anyone else. He\nstated that possibly these flying discs '\\'18re out 0£ the range of llOrmal vision.\nJlr.\nPARKEB was asked to furnish any additional information that comas to his at'..ention\nconoa:-;1i~ t.hase flying discs directly to the Air Forces since they now handle matters\nof this type.\nRCC:mf's\n62-689\n.. -- .. ..\nNo further action ia being taken by this office.\n•JiiOORDD. '\n.rm,E'XD\n1r.2;.abi'L\n\\ ~ s\n:I.\n31 NOV\niQA1"
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   "text": "•\n•\nMrs.\nnu\n\\\nllouenber 1, 1947\nSa'J ?ll'-J!L/\n•\nA..1fcCaul\n70-33 68th Place\nGlendale\nBrooklun, New Tork\nDear Urs. l!cCaul:\nYour lett er postriarked October 28,\n1947, has been received and l want ~o ezpress\napprectatton to you .tor havt ,ig written as\nyou, d id.\nS incerely yours,\nJohn Edgar Ooover\nJJi rsc-tor\nNOTE:\nThis woman rambles on and furnishes no\nspecific information about anything.\n-~i\n\\\\\\\\~'),i '\n\\ i~\\\n~\\.~ s\ni"
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   "text": "..\n,,.\nB? 9/ /2\nNovember 10, 1947\nMrs. Milo A~u1:·and\nElizaootntown, New York\nDear Mrs. Durand:\nYour letter postmarked November 5, 1947,\nhas been received and I do want to thank you for\nwriting as you did .\nThe patriotic motives t'lbich\nprompted your suggestions concerning the subject\nabout wh1ch you ho.ve written are indeed app1•eciated.\nSincerely yours,\nJohn Edgar Hoover\nDirector\n(\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION\nMAILED 11\n* NOV 10 1947 P.M.\nf£DWL IWREAU OF IHVESTISATION\nu. s. DEl'ARTtmrr OF JUSTICE"
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   "text": "/4-.-~~~\n~-....,,,-..,,,.,,(..c.Jr\n~ '/ /I\\)\n~11~\nf1._....\nJ\n. 0~ k\na_ //U~\n~\nCL- ~\n'C.,'~\n~\nJw·\n,,4t.,;_,,:t;f,J..\nJ'U/7t/4-.\nCt_,,.C'/t_ ~\n~\n~_.,;(JAAA4'J.Y~. /\nFBI_?\nf/\nF8/ C-O-,,~~~\n~, 1wL~ i~-il\n?\ni ·\nr\n(\n~v,& uvl~~\n.,rTrl.AS.,-1 ~V'\n~\n~\n/\n.. '\nC ,\n'\n0 _,·..-:: c -­\nii(j , 'i)(\n'\nJJ\n-\n~\n.\nt---v\n-\n•\nr,1~11-\"#\n~~\n(\n~\n'\n· ·\n~VI\n,\n•\n,'fl\n~\n-\n~~"
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   "text": "re/lectsJjtdgewood ts a\n~\n~\nnoucnbcr a, 1947\n!Jr. Joseph ./41~nc\n8071 69th Auc~~a\nRtdgouood\nBrooklyn 27• llco York\nDear !Jr. Ontltnc:\nt~\nYour letter datod llo1.1enber 2:, l9d7_,\nhao bean recetved.\nThe tnj'.o'l\"CUJ~ion contatncd\n1IIIOORDIW\n&\ntn the .ttZco oJ ~hto Bureau hew boon declared\n?NDEXED\nconJ'tdenttal and avatla~le .t,or of.ftctaI :uoc\nonly, and I cm unable ~o bo of any aaatatance\nir-\nto you.\nI cm eure vou wtll dr.aw no in)'.e7\"encc\n.f:ron ny inability to conply with your reguent.\nStnccrely yours~\nJohn Edgar Hoover\nDirector\nNOTE:\nThia tndtvtdual aaked 1uesttons concerning\nO flytng sa~s and the Bureau 3 tnvesttgat~on of\nRusstans.\nPostal Gutde\n~-----br__ch oj~ the Brooklyn?lstatton~\n_ an__ _\n•\nCOMMUNICATtOP»P~\n)Ottt\nMr.\nu-. Tols~on\nE, A,\nM A I L £ 0\n12\n::: gi:~rn -\nNOV 8\n1947\n\\\nl::: lfc::O\nP..M.\nl.!r. Rosen -\n­\nVr . Tracy~\n:g_; tfur-8::e;t:E flAl ltHtW., f)f lli~£8l16ATI0!i\nltr. Harbo\nl!r,\nI.Ir. !.'.ohr~~~\nPenn ng\nU•===~~O£~P~IUi;;;;lM~(~ll.:Of;J,:.:lt::C£~J\nI.tr . qulnn T\n::~\"o:iE= OV~7"
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   "text": "'\ne\nPort Allegany, Pa•\nlonmber 18, 19,1.\nPederal Bureau ot Inveatigation,\nPittsburgh, Pa•\nGentlemen,\n~l~owing the appearance in thi• town on Jbvember 6, 1947,\nor a Mr• J~~ppincott~ .Director of the Eaatern Area, Red Cross,\nPittsourgn.Jlia., aa speaker of the eve~r,\", at the annual looal\nRed Croes dinner, I aa told by Dr• H. B, Cro~, local pra.otioing\n\\J\ndentiat, that in a personal connrea 1 n,\nlowi:ng the dinner, !lr•\nLippincott told him that the •aauoere\" reported as seen in \"Tarioue\nparts of the country, were aotually tror:. Spain.\nHe eaid that Mr•\nLippincott said tha.t thil! had oeen aeoertained by the Government in\nr..aahington, but that it 110.a not being made known.\nHe said that.\n'r• Lippincott had been in &.trope and interred that he had been in\nSpain and kr:ew conditions ovor there.\nDr. Cranwell ie a man active\nin the Methodist Chruch and the looal Protestant ens Club, and it is\neasy to see how tar thie report can be spread.\nThe taot that the\nFederal Government indorsee the Red Crose makes a atatement of an ofCioial\nreprenntative ot that organisation almost indisputable.\nAa a repreeentatiTe tu ot the Federal Government and ae a\no1t11en interested in truth and World peace and racial and religious\nharmony in our own country, I queation the ad'Yieability or an aooredit.d\nrepreRentatin ot the Red Crose giTtng out thi• information. even \"ott\nthe Noord\".\nI thought you might be able to oheok with Mr• Lippin­\ncott or his organia.ti:-n.\nTours v,..ry truly,\nr.ll.)\n~~\na"
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   "text": "•\nI\n..,\nMiss Uarion DeuBcher\nJanuary 14, 1948\n/j\n604 est Mai n Street\nMenomonee Falls , ¥ts constn\nDear Mis s Beusc~er:\nYour letter of January 5, 1948, has been\nrecetued and I want to t~ank you /or fo rwarding\ninformatton to Me relat tng to the subject you\nmentioned.\nThe facts you relat ed, however, do not\nref lect any violation of a Federal statute ~ithtn\nthe inuestt gative jurtsdtctton of the FBI .\nT\\e\nthoughts prompting your communtcatton are tndeed\napprect ated .\nSincerely yours,\nJohn Edgar Hoouer\nDi rector\nW'N :cm\nNOTE :\nCorrespondent reports corres pondence she has\nhad with the Ziff-Davis Publishinp Company i n connection\nwith the \"flying saucers\" which were observed by her\nbrother .\nShe is of the optnton that thts publication\nmay be trying to conceal information related to our\nNation ' s s ecu rity and she mentions a threat t~at does\nnot re/en injur y to person or property.\n...,ri\n~\nr\n;i;•\n:z:\n~ c..r,\nI ::,\n:::0\nco~.\ni,.\n•\"\"->\n.:::­\n.0~\n71 0\n/)11~\nIJ,)\n-o\n::c: ..\n..c:..\n~ \\/'1/\nJ\n¥\n~\nCUMMUNtCATtOHS SECTt\nMAILED 8\nJAN 15 1948 P.M.\nffOEll-l llll!t'.AII or ll!V£8TIOATfOI\nU. S • .ult'~lll!EHJ OF JUSJICf\nI"
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   "text": "-\n~\nM\nFEB ~tJ ,s4siIP.\nI\n• I\nF,cbruary 5~ 2948\n~1<\n'\nFl /;pr,,\ntt'EOOR'nlW (,\n-\n{\n-\nJ1r . JI. J . liaraliall\nt'\\r 9.\"\nRural Ro tl\"ta ona\nLiiJ\\• '.j\nOol1'tngton, Oh to\nDear llr .\n'ar:11ial1:\nIour letter dated ,Tammry '29., \"].948, has\nbeen raoctvcd, and I oont to e~prcaa ny approci~\natton to you Jlor llavtng i:iada 1movn yoU;r vt.et.'\\? con­\nccrntng the oottcr you nenttoncd.\n0\n'?\nllr, Toloon\n/\n\")..\nllr. £. J.. ~\nllr. Cloffn\n­\nMr, Olav --::=z\nltl)EIAL BUREAU OF IIIIIESTISATIOII\n::: ~~.u\n~ •\nOfP,.RTIIEKl Of JUSllCE\nMr. Rosen -­\nu.s.\n11>-. Tracy-­\nMr. l:ian\nllr. Ournea\nMr. Harbo-­\nMr. l!Ohr -­\nMr. Pennington\n?\n)Ir , Qu1M ?811121­\nr.10. Room\n­\nllr. Nease -­ 5\nlllso OM<lyt--:----,.:\n0\n1\n~\nstncorely yours_,\n~\nJolin Edgar llooucr\nDtrector\n.\nC.!J\n;.o\n-r;\nIT1\nrT1\n<\"')\nCD\nl'T1\n-<\nCJ'I\nyJn 'Cf ~\nl'T1\nI :::,\n~\nrr, rr. w\nb­\n' -....\nI'\\)\n0\nN\nC')\n-0\n:3:\n::0\n0\n...,;;\n\"'t~,,Hi«\nIf\n. •lier,,,,\n11 ~a //J1 .\n•"
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   "n": 34,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p34.jpg",
   "text": "{l~/IIJS J,'lRJfUi\n~llBUt iO 1,!Jl!Jli,\\ilO .f ,U\n30,1f 0,ijfu,'.!;;r am1J111Moa\n-\n•o,~.fw-o§Ai;,,,._ A M\n0~·, l· ·tti'ill&gr 8J.:J 831 *\nKOITAf)1T83\"Y111 ~"
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   "n": 35,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p35.jpg",
   "text": "..,. •\n_,,\n1fcb~rtd Bun-au of fnuestigation\nUniteh itates Deparbncnt of lJustic.r\nSaa Frtmci1co t, Cdit'orr1a\nFebruary 12, 1948\nAIR MAIL\nPERSCIIAI, JIM) ec1,,<1:M._\nDirector, FBI - ~A_t_t~e_n_t~io~n;...;..:...,;;A~a~•~i~a~t_an~t__D~i~r_e_o_t_o_r_o_._M_._LAD\n__D\n0\nRes\nFLYING DISCS\nSecurity ~atter - X\nDear Sir:\nI b\ntransmitting herewith for the information of the Bureau copies 0 £ an\nenoloeure dated February 4, 1948 reoebed from Lieutenant Colonel DONALD SPRlll<IBR,\nA-2, United States Air Force, Hamilton Air Force &ee, Califonia. Th~a •nclosuro\nis a con£ident1al letter addre•a•d to the Camnanding Generals ot the First, Secom,\nFourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth Air Foroea, Air Defense Comnand, from Head­\nquarter•, Alr De£enae Comnand, ¥1tchel Air Force Baae, New York, by oo'll'me.nd 0£\nLieutenant General STRAfDtEYER.\nIt conoerna the inveatigation ot flying d.iacs by\nAir Foroe personnel.\nYou~ attention is particularly called to Paragr~~h 2, whioh indicates that\ncertain r•ports ~onoerntni the imeat1gation or flying disos by Air Force Intelligence\n~\\ll be r•por~•d to ~he FBI office concerned.\nYour attention ia further called to\n2\nParagra.~h\n-B, •hich iud1oatea that \"imeatigationa will be coordinated with the\nFBI Off'ice oonce---.d\n11 -\n<\n;>\n-\n, • ..,\n•\n• •• •\n•\n•\n•\n'\nJ,.i ..\nL~i L ,,,1\n-\nCOIJUl:a d\nI.naamuch as the,. recent inatruotiona of the Headquartere, Air Defense\nt ~- n • l!H.ahell Air Foroe b..ae, New York:\nare contrary to the illltnictions con-\na.uied in Bureau Bull t 4 -\nN\n57\n•\n·\nia indicated that 11• .u\n0 •\n, Series 1947. dated Ootober 1, 1947, in which~~\nreferred t 0 th\n•\n~uture report, OOIU:lected with flying diaoa should 'ti.\nEureau ~\n• Air Poree and no im-eatigative action taken by Bureau agent,, t.he\noffices ' 1~•q1Jeated to advlae thia oftioe, as well•• other iaterested &ireau\nthe handling 0!,het bor there has been a challf'e in Bureau policy with r•tere'QCe to\ni s atUl in effect.'' a-ia\"-tera or whether P.~reau Bulletin No. 57 dated October l, 1941\n)\nVery truly youra,\n~ -\nf<\nBMK,emo' '\nEncloaure (in duplicate)\n~Ol)J~~ n~c-Tn OYED\n~1 ~ ~~ 1%,~ 4"
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   "n": 36,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p36.jpg",
   "text": "~\n•• • •• •\n•\n._.:utan\nn\n11 ,u\n..G~ ~ rntE\nG~hdl\naf.tr\"ll')·Hh:l , S ooe.toa.n'if a.ea\n~£! , SL ·,ri..evxoe~\nJ.AM\nIA-\n-~r\\1t~ 01-o~\nA\n_u_a_AJ_ _\n. 1__. 0_ 't_o_1_o~o~~L~·-0__~\"~•~j~c~l-c~n~A~....~=c~o~i~~~o;;.=.;.t~~ =-\n- t l ,,o.to~~tq\n80wl ~·iYJl :eff\nX -\n~ :~s= yjl~u:o~\nZf 1\nlo\nlqoo us ~u eft 1o aol~ tt\"lu'iAl\n~ ~ol ~la, n al.tt lmnD'I~ r:ui l\n, S· i I\nE c!JaHOCI l&lIO!o'.J .i'am,:t1:t.11elJ co-r? bovleo , 8{\\eJ\n1 :1> y;:runc!e i be:t.eb e-weo.ton\no,~ao!o.~e elrt~\n.e.t:enol l ! t!O , eoaS 0010~ 1lA ~ot!l!liau , ~,o~ ,!A e ts1Z be:lar , s­\n, .blI0036 , .:tnl e.rut ':to e!n oneO ~lba.o~ M o:t bee\"e\"l.bb.a , e~:te! I.el.tnebl'!no:> s r;l\n- bn~\nrro1'l , b!UlT.ra~ fHut e 'loCJ 1.tA , 2 010'1 \"1 t\nMneo.t·:uro'II brr2 , 1'!:tnevo!\ncd.tne'l' , .r.~,s. 'i\nlo to \"'lll'OO \"-:~ t 1-ioY we'H , ez\noo-io l -ilA Lerlo.t) 'f , b.aammoJ cano'l a -i.U. , ~\"Iohaur,\n~ aoalb 3a!t11 lo nol•.a~~e~vlt.f on;:t aa,eo.aoo jl . H r~~AfiT8 L•~ea~o ~JUa~~uelJ\n. !o!lnoe-iQq eo~c¾ \"1lA\n.t~d:t 20:t.eolbal rlolrl, .s !iq1.1-r i,·u'l o1 'boH.eo\nbJJfi:o.f:t\"Ia\n81 nol:tn\n.ttJ \"1110Y\ne:in\nl.UefaI\n:>·101 ,.l:A \"\\:d'. '\"ozlb \"\"~!'i 'io t10.U ~.tJz: evnl orlct ;, 1l ineono:::i a:t'loqe--r nlcne\no;t b ll~o ~edj~~ al\nol&netja ~uo1\n. bP,.,.i'l~oo:oo eol1lo 81 erl~ o: beJ~oqe-i ~J !!lw\noM f{11\n.., 1~lb,ooo ed !H t.aol :t15ii.1sevnl\n11 ~brl:t Bsj-,eo!bnt tiol w t -s\nq.e-i]a\"fis<!\n11\n••bem :>C!.OO ool'!'l.0 lEi\"I\nf\n:fa:e:\n'\"U.JllOL0!'1 ;r\n{a:teol!oab al)\n·. ,\nt»\\.~'\n<t. '\\~¥--0\n~s\n~,\n~\n•\n~~~\n<i,\n.)\n1'\n'e'\n-~\n()~\n. .\n'\n.....\n...\n~~\n~~'?)\n()\n';r1\n(?>~"
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   "n": 37,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p37.jpg",
   "text": "i\n'\n,,.\n80HFfBEli'fIAb\nHeadquarter•\nAir Defense CoDnand\nMitchel Air Force Base, New York\n4 February 1948\nD 333.5 (CIB)\nSUBJECTs\nInvutigation and Reporting of \"Flying Disc\" Incident•\nT01\nComnanding Generals, First, Seoond, Fourth, Tenth, Eleventh, and Fourteenth\nAir Foroes, Air Defense Command\nATTNs\nAC of S, A•2\n1. The numbered air forces of this command are responsible for the prompt\ninvestigation and reporting of inoidenta relating to \"flying disos'' which occur\nwithin their respeotive areas. Numbered air force A•2s, after evaluating disc\nincidents, will detennine the extent of investigation. Futile expenditure of military\nfunds and manpower must be avoided.\n2. \"Flying discs\" will be investigated as provided for in Counter Intelli•\ngenoe Incident Cases, taking cognizance of the USAF Operating Intelligence Echelon\nstructure. Where it ia evident that witnesses, who were together at the time of\nincident but who are widely separated at the time of investigation would corroborate\neach other's story, only one witness need be interrogated. If there is a reasonable\nindication that a reported incident ia a hoax or the fabrication of a publioity\nseeking individual, no further investigative etfort will be expended. However, a\nreport of such eiroumstances will be auanitted to the FBI offioe concerned.\na. CIC personnel attached to the numbered air forces of this command\nmay be utilized to prosecute the investigation of subject inoidents.\nb. Investigations will be coordinated with the FBI Office concerned\nin accordance with instructions contained in letter, thi• headquarters, D 333.3 EX,\nsubjeot, \"Cooperation of FBI with AAF on Investigation of •Flying Diao' Incidents,\"\n3 September 1947.\n3. Report• will be narrative in style and will cov$r only those faota\npertinent to the subject. Where aouroe credibility cannot be eatabliahed, or when\nan incident lacks foundation, the report will merely atate aame.\nTwo types of report\nwill be subnitted on all inoidenta.\na. Spot ~•ports (fragmentary reports) will be subnitted on all incidents\nand will be followed by a Letter Report.\nb. Letter Reports will be subnitted to report the completed inTeatigation\nof all \"flying diso\" incident••\n4. Reports will be aul:mitted in duplicate promptly, usually be regular\nmail. However, Spot reports on incidents of substantial character, 1. e., thoae in\nwhich the patent credibility of the witness is beyond challenge and whoa )eohnical\nfto,~1' ◄\nI"
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   "n": 38,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p38.jpg",
   "text": "'\nbaokg\n,..,,_tible with his observations of an ooourreme obviously not atmo-\n.\nspherio- G ~eft\\al phenomena, may be transmitted by TWX.\nReporta will be submitted\ndirectly to J.••4~rters, USAF, ATTN:\nDirectorate of Intelligence, Air Intelligence\nRequiremed•'f'B$ol\\.\nOne 1.nformational copy of each report submitted will be for­\nwarded to this command, ATTN,\nAC of S, Intelligence. Reports will be claesified at\nleast CONFIDENTIAL.\nBY CCMMAND OF LIEUTENANT GENERAL STRATENEYERs\nRICHARD W. GEUSS\nCaptain, USAF\nAotg Asst Adj Gen"
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   "n": 39,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p39.jpg",
   "text": ".,. - .\nSAC, San Francisco\nFebruary 20, 1948\n0\ntil ector, FBI \"]\n• J\n1ttn1W1LYING DISCS\nI\n,,'-\\ \\ G SECURITY MATTER -\nX\n~\nReference is made to your letter in the captioned matter dated\nFebruary 12, 1948.\nYou are adVised that Bureau Bulletin No. 57 dated October 1,\n1947, still applies with respect to flying discs. The Bureau is conducting\nno investigations concerning flying discs. We will, however, give the Air\nForces any information which comes to our attention and will receive any\ninformation which the Air Forces volunteer.\n•\nThe Headquarters of the Air Forces 1n Washington are being contacted\nby the Bureau in order to insure that there is no misunders~ing as to the\n. Bureau's position in this matter.\nr-..,\nRGF:rb"
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   "n": 40,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p40.jpg",
   "text": "'\n...\n. -\n..\ni\n.:13/1(\nJ0 'l<130 s·r.\nI9d\nH00l:l 11VI ·03Al33.3b"
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   "n": 41,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p41.jpg",
   "text": "..\nSTANDARD FORM NO. e4\nOffice Me~ .andum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n•\nTO\nMr. Ladd\nDATB: 3/1/48\nIC', Tolson\n:-: ~ie~ Tamn===\nFROM\nV. P. Ke\n: : g~!;r~--­\n: : lfi~g- _\n_\noIB\n_\nSUBJECT: j FLYING DISCS\n: : ~~:--­\nSECURITY MATTER - X\n: : ~.:'.=\"·=====\n:: : ~~~:.::,,~·-:,,,-;..-::.==\nMr . PeM1\nEon\nJ\nr.io~UJ~ ~\nIC'. Neas\nReference is made to a memorandum to you f'rom Mr . J. P. Coyne\n•\n•\nL\ns\nin the above- captioned matter dat~~ February 19, 1948.\nThe memorandum\nindicated that the ~an Franc:h.sco\n1 Field Di vision had re·ceived a letter from\nthe headquarters of the Air Defense Command, Mitchel Air Force Base, New York,\ndated February 4, 1948, entitl ed, urnvestigation and Reporting of 'Flying Disc'\nIncidents.\"\nThis communication indicated that investigations should be\ncoordinated with the FBI.\nThe Agent in Charge of the San Francisco Field Division inquired as\nto a change in policy r egarding the investigation of flying discs. A letter\nwas forwarded to San Francisco advising them that there had been no change in\nthe Bureau's policy. This matter has been discussed by Special Agent S. W.\n·Reynolds of the Liaison Section with Lieutenant Colonel C. P. Martin of the\nIntelligence Division of the Air Force. Colonel Martin advised Mr . Reynolds\nthat apparently the Air Defense Command at Mitchel Field was not aware of the\nfact that the Bureau was no longer conducting investigations regarding flying\ndiscs. He stated that he would take the necessary action and straighten out\nthe Air Defense Command as to the present policy regarding incidents of\nflying discs .\n.\nJtECO'RD~ I ~\n-\no·_:) / :p-J.\\•~\n-·\n_ll-i,\nI vj,_;_\n-1 Jk ~r\n29 MAR 9 I\n5./\n, \"{}.A~·•vv (/"
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   "n": 42,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p42.jpg",
   "text": "•"
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   "n": 43,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p43.jpg",
   "text": "to whether there has\n'\nSTANDARl:>l'ORMN0.64\noNI TEn sTATEs GovERNMENT\nOffice Memorandum • •\nTO\nMr. D. M.\nD ATE:\nFROM\nJ. P. Co\n, i~,y~\nSUBJECT;\n~ FLUNG DI S\nSECURITY MATTER - X\n1\nThe attached ·1H.r flom,the San Francisco Field Division\ndated February 12, 1948, raises the question as\nbeen a change in policy concerning the investigation of flying discs.\nRECOMMENDATION:,\nIt is reco!!lTJ).ended that the information contained in the attached\nletter be discussed by the Ll.aison Section with the Air Forces.\nACTION:\nA letter is attached to San Francisco advising them that there\nhas been no change in Bureau policy.\nRGF:rb\n..."
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   "n": 44,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p44.jpg",
   "text": "FEB ZQ I 38 P~ '~8\nilE CE P~E t:- t. A!Ii:\nF B I\n··' 5. 0Ef'1 OF J l; S '!'!C f.\nj"
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   "n": 45,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p45.jpg",
   "text": "•\n.. .\n.\nS'YVLES BRIOGES. N. H., CHAl\"MAN ·•\nCHAN GtJRN£Y,\n•\nC. OAK.\n•\n£NH.\n,\nKENNETH MCKE:L\nC. WAYLANO,OROOK\\, ILL,\nCARL HAYDEN, ARlZ,\n~~:iHM.;,~~..:.~.:!·.\n~~~~::.~~l:=~~D.\nHOMER FE\"'3USON, MICH_.1\nRICHARD B, RUSSELL. GA,\nKENNCTH S. WHERRY, NEBR.\nPAT MCCARRAN, NEV.\nGUY CORDON, DREG,\nJOHN H, OVERTON, LA.\nLEVERETT SALTONSTALL, MASS, JO.PH C, O'MAl-tONEY, WYO.\nMILTON R, YOUNG, H .. OAK,\nTMEOOCUUi FRANCIS GREEN, R. I,\nCOMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS\nWILLIAM P. KNOWLANO, CALIP',\nHEN.RY C. DWORSHAK, IDAHO\nEVERAR.D H • .SMITH, CLERK\nCECIL H. TOLBERT, ASST, CL.Due\nMarch 22, 1948\nHonorable J. Edgar Hoover, Director\nFederal Bureau of Investigation\nDepartment of Justice\nWashington 25, D. c.\nDear Mr. Hoover:\nAttached you will find letter which may or\nmay not be of interest to your office.\nHowever, I\nfelt it should be passed on to you for whatever the\ninfortn,3tion is worth.\nKindly return my constituent' s letter\nalthough if you wish you make a copy of it.\nCordially yours,\nIf\nKSW:emn-3\nl 'M.01~\nKEOOH,DED\nEnc.\n&\nI~ \"4:-8-fl//-, •Itf ~\nINDEXED 31 MAR 27 1948"
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   "n": 46,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p46.jpg",
   "text": "v\n' .>\nC\n0\n..\n•\n•\np\ny\nBenkelman, Nebraska\nMa reh 14, 1948\nMr. Kenneth Wherry\nUnited States Senate\nWashington, D. c.\nDear Ur . Wherry:\nOn March 13 at 2:30, M.S.T. o'clock in\nthe afternoon I witnessed a strange sight in the\nsky traveling at a very high rate of speed at a\nvery high altitude.\nI was first attracted to this sight by\na noise of motor or whatever it was. It sound_\nto me like that of a train r~mbling in the distance\nof from 10 t~ 12 miles on a still day.\nAt first glance it looked like it might\nbe a vapor trail left by a high flying plane.\nBut\nthe white streak that was in the sky never changed\nits shape or did it change in the di recti on of travel.\nIt traveled much faster than any plane I\nhave seen traveling in sky high enough to leave vapor\ntrai 1.\nAs near as I can describe this sight was\nthat it might appear to be a stream lined train\ntraveling at a very high altitude at very high rate\nof speed.\nThis rocket or whatever it might have been\nwas high enough to disappear from sight while it\nwas yet very far above the hori2on.\nI am not writing this so that it might\nseem to be another disc, fan or whatever you might\ncall them .\nI just saw this and it has been on my\nmind ans I thought if there was anything that I\ncould be of help to solve this thin g I would write\nthis to you and you can forward this to the proper\nDept. if it is necessary. Thanking you kindly\nYours Truly\n/s/ Kenneth ~Frasier\n&JCLOSURE\nP.S.\nThis object was traveling from east to west.\nIt\nlooked 1ike it might have trave led over Denver,"
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   "n": 47,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p47.jpg",
   "text": ". ·\"'\nC • •\n0\n•\np\ny\nKENNETH L. FRAZIER\n•\nColo. or a little to the south.\nI live almost due east about 180 mi. by\nair and I looked to the south a l ittle to be able to\nget sight of object.\nThis object was also witnessed by my son\nwho\nwas with me at the time .\nI saw the smoke cloud left by so called\nmeteor which exploded ouer at Norton_Kans.\nThis\nobject was not~ br ight ball of fire like it was .\nThe siluer streak in the sky traveled as\nif it were a long connected ~treak.\nThis did n~t\nresemble a line of smoke left by a train travel tng\nalong it moued altogether as a unit. If it is not\nagainst any regulation and if possible would like to\nhave answer to this object .\nC\n0\np\ny"
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   "n": 48,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p48.jpg",
   "text": "- .\nl!arch 241 1948\nHonorable K•nneth..__B.\nUnited S:tates Senat•\nWaahtngton, D. c.\nJJy dear S11na-Oor:\nTour letter o/ l!arch 221 29481\nwtth encZoeurs# has Men recstved.\nStnoe\nths eubJ•ct aattsr menttoned tn your oon­\nstttuent's lettsr ts not within the scope\no/ authortty o/ thta Bursau1 I have taken\nthe ltberty o.f .forwarding a copy o;t hta\nlatter and yours to .tM ~ecrstary o/ the\nAmy, llattona1 D6/,nae Butldtng# ashlng­\nton 1 D. c . # /or hta tn/ormat1on. Your\nthought/ulness tn brtngtng ~hje to my\nattentton ta tndesd apprectat•d• I aR\n•noloatng a copy o/ my letter to JJr.\nFrasier whtch I thought you mtght like\nto have /or your /tles# together wtth hta\nlettflr.\nUtth ezpreaatons o/ my h1gheat\nesteea and beat regards,\nSince rely yours 1\n-• Eagar\no~ve,::'.\\.i1>\n,,~\n~\nEnclosJ_e\n1\nIncomi; from Frasier and cop~, of our letter to\nVWP:jec\n' ~ e-­\n....\n'-\"\"I\nCOMr.UlNICATIO 'S SES'tiO~ II\n1\nMAILED 3\n* MAR 2iJ 1948 f,;.. ,\n~~\nfittliA&. BllltEAU OF IN~ESTHiATIOlt\n, 8. DEPARTMENT Of JUSTICE\n..,, .\n..\n.c..\nI\nhim.\n\\)J­"
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   "n": 49,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p49.jpg",
   "text": ". ­"
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   "n": 50,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p50.jpg",
   "text": "• I\n•\nJiarch 341 1948\nRECORDED L,,, ... 3gy ~lt3\nUr. Kennsth L. Fraeter\nBenk•lman1 Nebraaka\nYour letter dated llarch l41 l948,\nto tho Honorable Kenneth s. Wherry, United\nState• Senator, has been re/erred to me /or\nattentton. Stnc• thtt mattar you i:zeni1oned\nta not wtthtn the scope oj authorttu of thta\nBureau, I have taken the ltberty o/ jurntah­\ntng a oopy of your communicatton to the\nSecratary o/ ~he Armu, National Ds/enas\nEutldtng1 Uashtngton, D. a., and in tha\nevent you haue anu addittona2 tn/or:n.atton,\njt is auggeated you aay destre to communtcats\nwtth h,n.\nB'incer•211 11ours1\ni .. Ba&ar Hoover\n..Tohn Edgar Hoouer\nDtrector\n~\nJ\n(r:\nr-..:\nCC:\nSenator Wherry - ~ r1' ~\n~ ~\nrr:\n(O\nName of to111n per Postal Gutde\n0 ..... -\n~\n..... - .\n,_\nt:'\n...\n~\nVWP:jec\n~\n\":'I\nCOMM\nCATIONS SECTION j\nAILED :3\n* ftiAR 2r, 1948 P.M.\nr.."
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   "n": 51,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p51.jpg",
   "text": ". .\n•\n'"
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   "n": 52,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p52.jpg",
   "text": "STYLES BRIDGES, N, H,, CHAU\\\nCHAN GURt-&Y, S. OAK,\nKENNETH MC\n•\nC. WAYLAND BROOK&, ILL.\nCARL HAYDDI\nCLYDE M, RE£0, KANS.\nELMER THOM.\nJCifSE:PH H. BAL~ MINN.\nMILLARD E, T\nHOMER F'ERGUSON, MICH.\nRICHARD 8. Rl\nKENNETH $. WHF.RRY, NEBR.\nPAT MCCARRAt., NltV.\nGUY CORDON, OREG.\nJOHN H, OVERTON, LA.\nLEV£R£TT SALTONSTALL, MASS, JOSEPH C, O' MAHONEY, WYO,\nMILTON R. YOUNG, N. OAK.\nTHEODORE FRANClS GRE£N, R. I.\nCOMMITTEE ON APPROPRIATIONS\nWILLIAM F. KNOWLAND, CALIF,\nHENRY C, DWORSHA.t<, ID.AHO\nApril 1, 1948\nEVERARD H. SMITH, CLERK\nCECIL H. TOLBERT, ASST. CL.ERK\nThe Honorable J. Edgar Hoover\nFederal Bureau of Investigation\nUnited Stat es Department of Justice\n\\'~ashington 25, D. C.\nDear Mr. Hoover:\n'tJ:tank you very much for forwarding\nMr. Kenneth L~\nasier , letter to the proper\nauthorities.\nYour cooperation in this instance\nwas aeeply anpreciated.\n---::...-----"
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   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p53.jpg",
   "text": "•\nllnihb 8tate.s ilepartment of 1.fmitice\nPost Office Box 1850\nAtlanta 1. Georgia\nAugust 10, 1948\nAIRMAIL SPECIAL D!J'.,IV]J.RY\nDirector, J'l3I\nRill\n'\nMRS. MADBLINE G~ER~;\nINFOBMA.TlOB! CONC:&RNING\nDear Sir:\nf-.L I;11 Co })1 ~ c....)\nTransmitted herewith for the ltureau 1s information are\ncopies of a letter, together with enclosure, froa the aboTe\ncaptioned individual..\nI:aaa1111.1ch aa there is n.o record in this\noffice concerning captioned person, no reply has been made to\ninstant letter. with the tho~t the Bureau may desire to acknow­\nle~e instant coll!llWlication or communicate further concerning\nthe matter with the Dallaa Office.\nFor the information ot the Bureau and the Dallas and\nSan Antonio Officea, the clippiDgs referred to are transmitted\nherewith to the l3ureau, Dallas and San Antonio Office•, it being\nnoted that Wichita ll'alla it covered by Dallas and !'ort Sam Hous­\nton is covered by the San Antonio Office.\nVery truly yours,\n\"\nJ\nK\nJ ENCL\n~\nhI\nEnclosures - 5\ncc-Da.llae (Enc--3) AMSD\ncc-San Antonio (Enc-3)\nAMSD\nJ.J'F: SL\n,: Oib. ' t. 1e Nu{\nl 8 I\n,... Elltt r 2Et11(:UU ~.-\nC1\nUG'"
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   "text": "..~\nr\n•\nr nft it • • utl. fo\n'f:S.fS'J.! •\n! ti t\"n!!J'\nOcf) .r ;;i;o.r \"\"~ .t ~,:o :+ ·,ocr\n~i~~a90 , I ~~nPf~A\n$-i\\eI . OI U1~!.J.A\n1r:W:tbi.ai: m1tm1-0 ~ Lxm<IAM . ~nM\n: ..\n-Oti!ill!i;,.OliCC uCI~A~~.1I\nf)'!;G l!OlJ--r:l·,£,(Jl:.il 3 1.usawC: g{j -ro'.t ,dj.i. /~(1! l>ej;tl:lf!<'f!.B\"!\"T.\n\"v-0d'.s &rlt no'l''i ,o-:i:ucefon8 ,rl;thi -:redfo~o;t ,'l'.e.t.tel .a 'Io t:.s.tqoo\n.r;;i;!t.t .n.l. ~-xooe·r on ei e·1eJ!:t e£ sb1.1i:1M.a.I\n.. .f.Br1IH:-:-.1r:.a.t be.nol!cp.,o\not efirt.ai no~rl e ~d \"(;!qo·t on .00:::1:x cr beno.h.to:et. ~c1rr;raoaoo o:>1:'ilo\n--woc&.io o:i e·dr.eb \\;;Bil! .u.:.wwtt ed.t jd.,-:i.JJo{i;t o!'U :i,iHw •\"it> ~.1 e.r j nBi1an l\n• a.i:n'.t9~J.CI0.0 •.r9'.{j•u11: e;tz;.,.:.J:ItrX:::OtJ 'tO ao,i;j :.,i.rU.Jir.Wl(I:> .ta.eJSlti cli,f)~!\n..t'd:'::'-0 eD.u'.nO: &d;t .d,t.~w ·:to:t.tsu srla\n•\nbt.UJ e~II.e.(I orl.t baa us&~m.~ ent ~o aolfr~~~o\":Lai arlt ~Q~\n,n9;tjlf!IS£1ll'lj ~'Ie o.t bane':t9'l e~.h'qi.!o eM t880:t'fi0 o!.nc):tuA .nsc:.\n·'.!tieo H. ,s0 ~J:'l:':t0 cko.tri.A .a,1i;: !l!m \"'!l!.!.GCI • .:men.Rt of.J oit ~1:w!l't•1i\n~\".u,-,U f!J3o .t-xo'! .61!~ as.U..:tt ~cf b9'Ievo') Bi a!.~r.r oit'.t.d.oU! ~£:.ti:t !.aacu\n. s:>i'i:10 oi:.C1c:;t11A ua2 etl..'. 'ltd\" bs·t3vo~ a.:. noJ­\naeMA ( f. ...•,nd cs.r.racr-:..:>\n(t~oo~) olnojr.J~ n:.a~~o\n3J'1Sf\\r j U !.d3U ~ ' 1\nI 8 :J\nuuto:ns 1'N'631-.,\nJV, ~ij uE 6 ll oov\nQjAl.iJJI"
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   "n": 55,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p55.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 56,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p56.jpg",
   "text": "•\n100M\nAuthority:\nNND90986\nHE~DQUARTERS\nAIR MATERIEL COMMAND\nMCIAXD-3/FWA/aw\nIN\nREPLY\nADDRESS\n10TH\nCOMMUNICATION AND\nEN•\nWright-Patterson AF Base\n,,.\nVELOPE\nTO\nCOMMANDING\nGENERAL,\nA IR\nMATIERIEl\nl«IIJIJ(ll9 ••••••;,.-.,\nCOMMAND,\nA T T S N T I O N\nFOLLOWING OFFICE SYMBOL:\n9 September 1948\nMCUX0..3\nDirector\nFederal Dlresu of Investigation\nDepartment of Justice\nWashington. D. C.\nA!l'l!N:\nFBI Laborator,y\n&IBJ'RCT:\nProjeet \"SIGN\"\nGentlemen:\nAccompanying this letter is a small sample of soil. This\neoilr ~s taken from a depression reputed to have been caused\nby a'-.Bflying S81l.cer11 described as being approximately two feet\nin diameterand. one foot thick which. supposedly settled gently\nto the ground, rebounded to a height of abou.t twenty feet and\nthen contimed. on its journey. Al.though. the declivity was immedi­\nately covered by a large washtub a heavy rain fP.1bsequently filled ~\nthe depression about one/third full of water before any sample of\ndirt could be taken.\nIn an effort to approach this incident objectively to deteI\"'­\nmine every possible clue, it bas been deemed advisable to have\nthis soil sample analyzed and tested. Upon inquiry, your ~n\nrepresentative stated that the FBI Laboratoey would accomplish\nthe required. tests.\nDt.O.\n/\n..,\n/ !\n/\n£CO~\nh\n-\n-\n,,,\n/ '\nIt is the desf re of this Head.~1.arte»s-48--&seep-t,ein, in par 1­\ncu.lar, if there are traces of unusualReme~ or &.loys adhering\nto the surface of the particles, o~lf 91V :reJSnb!MaJ i ty in structure\nexista aho~ that the soil ms su~;•~intense beat, ll\"-\"\"\"\nor radio-active subst?.DCes. etc. Unfor\n•\ny, in this regard,\nno one thought to forward a. sample\n~unding the de­\npression 80 no comparison of soils can be made at this time. ~d\nthe subsequent test show qthing unusual some arrangement could be\nmade to procure some ,of the surrounding soil 80 that a comparative\nanalysis could be ma.de.\nThe aceomp~ing sample bas not been test­\ned by any other agency, nor will it be.\nJ\n~ }'J!v~\n{J.t_p,,,v q f' ·~ ~\nCOPIES DESTPC''{;fl\n27 0\nNOV 181964\n'I"
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   "n": 57,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p57.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n.­\nProject \"SIGN\"\n9 Sept 1948\nDirector, Federal Bureau of Investigation\nIn the event the tests show nothing warranting further investige,.­\ntion you~ dispose of the sample. The report should be addressed\nto this Command marked for the attention of MCI.AX0-3.\nThis Division\nwill appreciate your cooperation in this matter.\nVery truly yours,\n,~~W~\nIncl\nW. R.\n•GEE!MAN\nfi f~\na~;fF\nColon\nUSAF\nChief, Technical Intelligence\nDivision\nIntelligence Department\n2"
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   "n": 58,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p58.jpg",
   "text": "REPORT\nof the\n/_\\==f}2J t l}=7\\\n~\n1..A.BORA.TORT 2-s,__\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nWASHINGTON\nD. C.\nTo:\nOOt.obc- ?, 1948\nCa::m.Ttdi~ Oeaeral\nAir U..t«riel Como.lid\nWright-Patterson AF Bue\n~, Obio\nAt.tentiont 1JClllO.i.3\nThere tollcinl \"1M Npc,.n ot the WI Labcrator., «i tho ~t.ion\nRe: ot e'f\"idenoe r-eceiTed .trc:im YOU' otf'iee on s~~\n~\n~\n---· ·-\n\\) John Edgor Hoover, Director\nYOUR FILE NO.\nFBI FILE NO.\nLAB. NO.\nExot'Nj....e~\nElracl.naUon of Soil\nReferen,e:\nRECORDED - ~ ~-146\nPC-231J.2CO\nSpecim• ns:\nAddreu•\nIAtter dated Septm'ber 9, 1948\nlt1craeoopia,,(M.rogrepbto-Geol.ogi.c)"
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   "n": 59,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p59.jpg",
   "text": "...\nL-.40\n•\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGA.\nN\nUNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\nLaboratory Work Sheet\n........OORDED\n9/22/48\nkag\n9j3£ 62- 83894-146 v\nBe: Project \"SIGN\"\nFile# PC-23142 CO\nExamination of Soil.\nLab. II\nCommanding General, Air Materiel Command, Wright-Patterson\nExamination requested by: ll:f AF Base, Dayton, Ohio\nAttention: ~CIAX0-3\nDate of reference communication: letter 9/9\nDate received:\n9/17\nEvid . 9/14 Reg.1171535\nExamination requested:\nMicro (Petrographic- Geologic)\nResult of Examination:\nExamination by:\nJEVOJJS\n~l, Sample of soil."
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   "n": 60,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p60.jpg",
   "text": "..\ne\n~ERALBUREAU OF INVESTIG\n_.,.LTED S'l\"ATES DEPABTMENT OF :i\nLaboratory Work Sheet\nRE'-0-:\"ttJ'F.D\n9/22/4$\nKai\nBe:\nFile II till 62-33894-146\nPro.,.ct \"5 G 11\nLab. Ii\nPC•2Jli.a CO\nEnid.nat.ion ot Soil.\nComand111 General, Air Materiel Coca:,.and, flri.cnWatt.eracn\nExamination requested by: ID Ar Dan, Dayton, cJno\nAt.tent,t en,\nOll.I0-3\nDate of reference communication: letter 919\nDate received:\n9/l?\n~Yid. 9/ 14 Reg.1171,)S\nExamination requested:\nicro (Pet.ro .rapbic-0.oloslc)\nResult of Examination:\nExamination by: JGftlS\nSpecimens submitted for examination\nQl, SUlple ot ao1l."
  },
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   "n": 61,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p61.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n\\\n. '\n' .\n.\n..\n.,...\nk\n. - .\n~\n'} '\n~\nRECORDED· 51 \\ __: __ _/\nF\nB\nI\n~ 23 OCT 22 ,948\n~"
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  {
   "n": 62,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p62.jpg",
   "text": "~ B 1\nI\n; ni:p· ,~ 'I JqlCt\n...,... .\n- . ; .\n•"
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   "n": 63,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p63.jpg",
   "text": ". -\nI\n..\n.,,,\n...\n•\n' j ••-'; ,\n•\nOctober :1.9. 1948\nJ 1\nta\nXour 1.ett. r d!l't 4d UclObcr 15. 1948. bna be\nr\ncived end J db veut to tbsnk you for the patriOUc\ncot1v s tiJltch proi.,pt~ ycu to t.lritce aYa1loble 70V\n~~ts conce~ tho cubJect YoU tte:it1one4.\nSincerely vours,\nftOERAL BUREAU OF IHVt:SllGATIOII\nU S. OEPARTr.lEIIT OF JUSIICE"
  },
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   "n": 64,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p64.jpg",
   "text": "•\nI\nJ.,.\n, -,\n' ---\n-&\n\\ $ cit\n,, ei 0\n1T, 'JI ,~t· 'ii iJ\nI\nZi ,---.3..lIC\\M\nll lJO,, _9 a\"°i o~ roo\n'I)/\n~\n------\n.'ti!\n-\nu~ .'6i'.\n~\n=\"'\n-~­\nl"
  },
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   "n": 65,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p65.jpg",
   "text": "ice of Contents from\nBUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\n.•ottINGTON, D. C .\n'\nDate~------------­\nOctober '7, 1948\nConsigned to·• \"\"Co-nwn-.._,d:tlln......,'!W'\"\"\"'tl\"\"e\"\"\"t1eral\nA:tr Materiel Cormland\nWrigJit-fatteraon M tmse\nn,.yton. Ohio List of tJiJFe~tins\nlfCIAXO-.)\nf:co:':MM::':U~N~IC~AT\".'\"\"10-NS--SE_C_TI_ON-\nro,..23142 CO\nMA( Leo 1\n* OCT '!18 1940 P.M.\nf'El>£RAL Bcaou Of IN\\'[8Tf6ATIOH\nU, 8. OEl'ARTIIEHT Of JUSTICE\nMr. Barbo, '1641\nMr. Conrad, 7142 t\n__\nMr. Downing, 6228\nB _\nMr. Sizoo, '1601\n'LI-/\nMr. Baughman, '11 1\n~\n7 9 7 c; 9' \"I\nIo/itj,r/1-{\n, _\nA~••__;.\nRIDISTERrotAIL\n.(?-__v\n;./~~~\n../r\nSPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS:\nMai ~ J-1om, place date of shipment and registry number; Shipping Room , show\nate of shipmrp't awjt,i t.~a.l tf~invoi ce; then return it to person whose name is checked 1in column at\night.\nAfter this ''Ji?H~ect\"name has been initialled, invoice should be placed in administrative fil e."
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   "n": 66,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p66.jpg",
   "text": "A ENTION\nFLY\n·bo\nMr. fllollr\nI\n1,lr. p,-,, 'i,--t\n.. ,,\nmoAl IURCAU OF tNVtSTtQATION\nU. S. OEPMTMOCT Of JUSTICE\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION\n•\nI\\\nANGELES\n12- 28 - 48\nAND SACS HOUSTON, CINCINNATI\nURGENT\nI NSPECTOR HOWARD FLETCHER\nMr Q ,.,\n'\nm\nG ~, LONN IE EDWARD\"-NOACK COMPLAINT.\nRE HOUSTON TELE~Yii, <a_ 1/\nOEC . TWENTY EIGHT . MR .\nR. C. PERSONS, VASCO .l!bemc ELECTRIC MMTIJVlfAcfll/NG\nCOMPANY, LA, PRESENTLY I N ARIZONA, EXACT WHEREABOUTS UNKNOWN TO HIS\nOFFICE, EXPECTED TO CALL MORNING OF DEC. TWENTY NINE.\nMR. NATHAN\nSMITH, SMITH MANUFACTURING COMPANY, SOUTH PASADENA, CALIF . ADVISED HE\n-\n. AND PERSONS PURCHASED AIRPORT IN MOJAVE DESERT NEAR HELENDALE,\nCALIF . STATED THAT IN EARLY PART OF DEC. EXACT DATE UNKNO_#i', PERSONS\nADVISED HIM H~ HAD FOUND A FLYING DISK ON THEIR AIRPORT.\nMR. AND MRS.\nSMITH, PERSONS, AND LONNIE~OACK PROCEEDED TO AIRPORT WHERE THEY\nLOCATED DISK, TOOK PICTURES OF IT AND REMOVED .. PORTIONS\nOF DISK, NOACK RETAINING SOME PARTS AND SMITH KiEPING\nSOME PORTIONS WHICH ARE STILL IN HIS POSSESSION . SMITH ADvISED\nTHAT DAY AFTER LOCATINGfrHE DISK AN EMPLOYEE CBSERVED PARTS RETAINED\nBY SMITH, AND STATED HE BELIEVED THE OB~ECT HAD BEEN MANUFACTURED\nBY OLSEN AND RICE MANUFACTURING COMPANY, TOY MANUFACTURERS LA .\nSMITH\nSTATED HE THEN CONTACTED OLSEN AND RICE WHO STATED THEY WERE FIN­\nANCING CLAUDE LERO~OLFERT LA IN DEVELOPING A KITE FOR •1tlllf SALE\nON OPEN hARKET AS A TOY.\nSMITH STATED HE HAD PREVIOUSLY GIVEN\nOLSEN AND RICE PERSMISSION TO USE HIS PRIVATE AIRPORT AT ANY TIME.\nOLSEN AND RICE TOLD SMITH THEY HAD TAi~ XPERIMENTAL KITES TO SMITHS/\nEND PAGE ONE\nRECORDfl};; t ~\n~ } --Jf:..1 :LI:: - ~ /\n1NOEXEtJ - 08\n~­\n•-s\n(t\nG OEC 30'Q48\nJ\n5 1~~\ngz~'O"
  },
  {
   "n": 67,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p67.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n'\n.,\n..t>\n,.,,\n__,\nm\n..,\n,\nn,\n<\nF'l\n0\n...,\n.r\nr-.\nt '\nrl'l\n'O\n-,\n..,..\n',\n! .\n..\nt::\n!Tl\n.0"
  },
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   "n": 68,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p68.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n.\n,\nPAGE TWO\nAIRPORT AND UPON DETERMING KITES NOT PRACTICAL HAD ABANDONED THE PROJECT.\nSMITH STATED HE HAD TAKEN SIXTEEN MM PICTURES WHICH ARE PRESENTLY BEING\nDEVELOPED.\nSTATED WOULD MAKE PICTURES AND PARTS FROM OBJECT AVAILABLE\nTO THIS OFFICE .\nSMITH DESCRIBED OBJECT AS APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIA­\nMETER, CONSISTING OF DISK MOUNTED ON AXEL WITH BEARINGS, WINGS\nON EITHER SIDE, TAIL SURFACE SUPPORTED ON BOOMS, CUP MOUNTED\nON EACH WING TIP RESEMBLING ROCKET POWER CONTAINERS .\nSMITH STATED DID\nNOT OBSERVE ANY CHEMICAL OR OTHER MATTERIAL IN CONTAINERS WHICH COULD BE\nUSED AS SELF PROPELLING FORCE .\nMR . HENRY T. RICE OF OLSEN AND RICE MAN­\nUFACTURING COMPANY ADVISED CLAUDE LEROY WOLFERT FINANCED BY THEIR COMPANY\nIN DEVELOPING TOY KITE, THAT WOLFERT HAD PROACHED IDEA OF MAKING LARGE\nMODEL TO BE USED AS TOW TARGET FOR AIRPLANES BUT RICE DECIDED\nTHAT HE MAKE . ONLY KITE SUITABLE FOR SALE AS TOYS .\nJIU\nIll( HOWEVER,\nWOLFERT MADE LARGE MODEL APPROXIMATELY SIX FEET IN DIAMETER, WEIGHING\nFIFTY POUNDS, WHICH TOGETHER WITH OTHER MODEL HAD BEEN FLOWN IN DC THREE\nOWNED BY OLSEN AND RICE TO PRIVATE AIRPORT OF ..MU:llllli PERSONS AND\nSMITH.\nRICE COULD NOT RECALL EXACT DATE, BUT_, STATED MWllf IT\nWAS IN EARLY PART OF DEC .\nRICE STATED DIFFICULTIES ENCOUNTERED IN\nFLIGHT OF KITE, AND THAT IN VIEW OF SIZE OF LARGE MODEL IT WAS NECESSARY\nTO TOW IT BEHIND PLANE TO OBSERVE FLIGHT .\nSTATED MODEL CRASHED AND OLSEN\nAND RICE ABANDONED EXPERIMENT LEAVING AIRPORT WITH WOLFERT REMAINING BE­\nHIND TO CONDUCT FURTHER EXPERIMENTS .\nRICE STATED DID NOT KNOW THAT WOL­\nFERT HAD LEFT THE LARGE MODEL AT THIS AIRPORT UNTIL ADVISED BY SMITH\nEND PAGE TWO"
  },
  {
   "n": 69,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p69.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n~\ni-.,\n('\"')\nr-...>\n.::0\nr--(.)\nr\nIJJ\n-,;,\n-c: ..\nc:.\n-x:,\n.xi\nn\n~\nrn\n<\nm\n0\nl\n\"'1'J\nrrr\n-,,,\n,:;\n•\nn\n\".Cl"
  },
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   "n": 70,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p70.jpg",
   "text": "•\n..,\nPAGE THREE\nTHAT THEY HAD FOUND THE OBJECT.\nCONTACT WILL BE MADE WITH SMITH, RICE,\nAND WOLFERT, TO SECURE PHOTOGRAPHS AND SAMPLES.\nBUREAU WILL BE ADVISED.\nHOOD\nEND\nA IN ORDER\nPLS\nA 7- 45 PM OK FBI WASH DC WJR\nHKBllUMilVHBH\n~SMR\nOK FBI HO UICF\nCI\nOK FBI CI JW\nCISC"
  },
  {
   "n": 71,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p71.jpg",
   "text": "•\n...\n....\nRE'CEIVEO TELETYPE UNIT\nDre 29 7 a.1 PH •~8\nF.8.1. DEPT. OF JUSTICE\n..._,\n,..t1\n!\"Tl\nn\nC\"\")\n,\n-..J\nm\n..:0 <\n11\n;;::)\n(•\nI ..,,\n:::­..,\n-,\nTJ\n'\\:I\n\"\"=\n_..\nc;\n..,"
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   "n": 72,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p72.jpg",
   "text": "STAN0...~0 ~OR,-, \"° 6A\n•\nOffice M emor! ndum • uNtrno sTATEs GovERNMENT\nDATE , December 28, 1948\n'¼..ITO\n, MR. D. M. LA: _& ~\nIC'\". Tolson__\nFROM\n:\nH. B. FI.ETC~\nJlf\nllr. ~legg\nwr. Glavin_\n_\n::: ~~~:~1~·===\nYr. Rosen\nMr. Tr&CY__\nSUBJBCT: O FLYING DISCS\n__\n::: =:=..=---=---_­\nMr. Harl>o__\nMr. ll<>hr.~......--­\nwr. Pennlngtori_\nMr. QU!llll tam_\nTele. Roo•­\nAt J..0':boa .m. today, SAC Willis, Houston, called in and stated\nllr. Nease__\nWISS llolJIIJO__\nthat Full~ackwell, a busin?ss man~ Housto~, Texas, had furnished\nWleO Go.nc!y__\ncertain pictures taken by a friend of his, Lo~ack of the Humboldt\nOil Company, Houston, Texas, and had related that Noack had been flying\nwith a friend in a private plane from California to Houston and that at a\npoint about 30 miles east of Lone Pine, California, some object lying on the\nground made a very strong reflection and they made a check to determine what\nwould cause this bright reflection. They finally landed the plane and found\nan object which could be described as being 8 1 in diameter with wings about\n4' long.\nThe object is about 1 1 in thickness and in the center there appears\nto be some type of gyroscope.\nThe wings apparently are fitted with some type\nof jet propulsion.\nAn examination was made by Noack and his friend and they\ncould find no identi.f.'ying marks and took photographs of the object they\nobserved.\nSAC Willis stated he had informed Lieutenant Robert Fleming of the\nill', Ellington Field, and Captain Bush, the Army representative in Houston,\nof this object and that Noack would be interviewed that morning in the Houston\nOffice with Lieutenant Fleming being present.\nLieutenant Fleming wanted the\nstatements of Noack taken down by a stenographer and he will furnish the\nstenographer for that purpose.\nI instructed SAC Willis to funti.sh complete details of this matter\nby idr mail special delivery, including a copy of the photograph.\nI further\ninstructed that he furnish the same details to the proper field office because\nunquestionably the Bureau would want to run this thing out.\nAfter talking with you, I phoned SAC Willis back and told him to\ninsure the presence of a Bureau Agent at the time this object was examined by\nthe Army Air Forces and that he should make proper arrangements with the office\nin California to see that an Agent was present. I also told him to adVise me\n/I\n_\nof the developments.\nf ~\nHBF:cmw"
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   "n": 73,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p73.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nJ\n•\nc:::::,\n:-rt\n!=\nC\")\n~\n!'~\n\"1\n..,\nCD\nc::,\nC\")\n\\.\\ ';\n\"' m\n~\n~..,,~\n.~,\nw\n.\n<\n,1,, \\\nc,(DrTl\n\\ ,.\n.#\n0\n~~~) \\ ~\n\"\"Tl\n~')\\~., \\ i\n\\ft\"'\n~\nt--➔ I\n\"'~\n~,\nC\n:­\nY'.\\\n~ V>\n>\n~-\n.. . ,4:\n:._-:,\n' \\\n;\n~ n\n-·\nCD\nm\ni~\"\" i\n~ \"\n~)~'O\n\\)~\"' •"
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   "n": 74,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p74.jpg",
   "text": "Mr. Tolson...... .\n1\\lr\n{r. t\nfEDEIIAl tU\"lAU OF IIW(STIQATION\nU. S. DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\n-\n•\nCle;'\n.• /\nCOMNUNICA~:N~ ,HIN •\n\"1r. G\",ivl , ✓··_\n1\n.... .. •\nDEC ~\n0 o\n.------­\n, ·-·-···--­\n• r\nTELETYPE\nFB_y1IOUSTON\n12-28-48\n1- 12 PM CST\n£rRECTOR , SACS CINCINNATI AND LOS ANGELES\nURGENT\n~\nENTION\nIN.SPECTOR HOWARD FLETCHER\ns-<vrNGl?rsK.\nLONNIE EDWA~\nOACK, COMPLAINANT.\nCOMPLAINANT\nRESIDING TWO NINE TWO ONE CHICAGO STREET, HOUSTON, CONTACTED THI\nOFFICE DECEMBER TWENTY SEVENTH ON CAPTIONED MATTER AND IN SIGNED\n\\\nSTATEMENT TODAY SUBMITTED THE FOLLOWING.\nNOACK , EMPLOYED#AS A\nMACHINIST BY HUMBLE OIL COMPANY, HOUSTON, LEFT HOUSTON BY COMMERCIAL\nAIRLINE DECEMBER FIFTH LAST ON BUSINESS FOR HOLLYWOOD , CALIF .\nON\nMONDAY, DECEMBER SIXTH, CONTACTED R. C. PERSON , FOUR ONE ONE SIX AVALON\nBLVD. , LA., AN ACQUAINTANCE, WHO REMARKED OF HAVING SEEN ON THAT DATE,\nSOME DISTANCE FROM HOLLYWOOD IN A DESERT AREA , WHAT APPEARED TO BE A\nFLYING DISK.\nPERSON OPERATES VASCO ELECTRICAL MANUFACTURING CO. , LA.,\nADAMS FIVE TWO EIGHT ONE.\nON DECEMBER SEVENTH, NOACK, PERSOM, AND\nMR. AND MRS . NATHAN SMITH, ONE NAUGHT FIVE SOUTH PASADENA AVE., SOUTH\nPASADENA, CALIF. , DEPARTED BY PRIVATELY OWNED AUTOMOBILE IN SEARCH OF\nDISK.\nSAME LOCATED APPROXIMATELY ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILES NORTHEAST\nOF PASADENA AND ABOUT TWENTY MILES NORTHEAST OF LONE P~, CALIF .\nPERSON , SMITH, AND NOACK TOOK PHOTOGRAPHS OF Dlt~~• MOV~\nNJ)t\nfJC/lf_ ,.. 5'tJ\nSPEEDGRAPHIC CAMERAS .\nTHE NOACK FILM WAS EIGHT~1Ik~METERS IN SIZE.J\n~\n'-\nIM 4 1949\nAND CAMERA MADE BY REVERE .\nDISK LOC.ATED DESERT~ EA NEAR NINE HUNDRE\n~\n•\n:<.'\nACRES OF LAND OWNED BY PERSON AS PRIVATE AIRFIELD .\nNOACK HAD HIS FIL\nDEVELOPED BY EASTMAN KODAK COMPANY AT UNKNOWN ADDRESS LOS PALMAS ST. ,LA.\n\\'It,,,,~1 l.\\i~\n~'V\nEND PAGE ONE"
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   "n": 75,
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   "text": "RECEIVE0-1..MHl\nFBI ·\nu. 5. DEPT. OF JUSC!CE\nRE'rEtVED\nOr.c 28 3 ss PM 'if8\nJAN 6 2 ss PM '~(\n~ i c k Nh, -~\ntt 1 . •N\nn~cE1vEn--01REC,\nF} 8 I\n­\nr.: B I\nU.S. of.:ri'T. Uf':,:u:\"/tff.€\n•'l t;TfCF\nI ~\n-~ •\n, •\n#\nDre 28\n~ 52 PM '~8\n,...\n4\n·-~\n....\n•\n.\n)\n•"
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   "n": 76,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p76.jpg",
   "text": ".,.\nPAGE TWO\nTHESE FILMS RECEIVED NOACK, HOUSTON, BY MAIL DECEMBER TWENTY THIRD\nLAST .\nDISK TO BE APPROXIMATELY SEVEN FEET IN DIAMETER\nf!!:: SHOWS\nAND APPROXIMATELY TWO FEET THICK IN MIDDLE WITH FEATHER EDGE ON RIM .\nABUTTING SAUCER IN MIDDLE AND ON BOTH SIDES ARE FOUR FOOT WINGS\nRESEMBLING CONVENTIONAL AIRPLANE TYPE .\nNO MARKINGS, NO RADIO, AND\nAPPEARED TO HAVE LANDED AT GREAT SPEED .\nDISK IN COMPARATIVELY GOOD\nCONDITION.\nTHE ENDS OF BOTH WINGS HAD ATTACHED A SMALL ALUMINUM\nCYLINDER APPARENTLY FOR JET PROPULSION.\nONE OF THESE CYLINDERS OBTAINED\nBY NOACK AS SOUVENIR AND CURRENTLY IN POSSESION OF r_::: OH~cg FILM\nSIMILARLY MAINTAINED .\nSA ROBERT FLEMING 1 OSI REPRESENTATIVE, .E,l.LINGTON\nFlELD~ TEXAS, NOTIFIED DECEMBER TWENT¥ SEV.E.N.IH .\nNOACK FILM EXHIBITED\nTHIS OFFICE INSTANT DATE AND SHOWS DISK IN ALL POS ITI ONS AND ARE\nAUTHENTIC .\nMR . FLEMING, OSI , ON DECEMBER TWENTY EIGHTH NOTIFIED\nDISTRICT COMMANDER , FIFTH OSI DISTRICT, WRIGHT FIELD, DAYTON, OHIO.\nSAC R. B. HOOD , LA., NOTIFIED TELEPHONICALLY OF ABOVE INFORMATION\n-\nWITH REQUEST THAT HE MAINTAIN CONTACT WITH R. C. PERSON IN ORDER THAT\nBUREAU-\nAGENTS MAY ASSIST OR ACCOMPANY OSI REPRESENTATIVES IN ACTUALLY\nOBSERVING AND\n----\n­\nRETR I EV I NG FLYING DISK . ..\nTHIS ACTION TAKEN PER BUREAU\nINSTRUCTIONS .\nNO FACILITIES AVAILABLE HOUSTON FOR REPRODUC I NG MOVIE\nFILM OF NOACK, HOWEVER, STILL SHOTS CAN BE DEVELOPED BY COMPETENT\nEND PAGE TWO"
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   "n": 77,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p77.jpg",
   "text": "...\n·,\n•\nRECEIVEO-l. /l nfl\nF B I\nU. S. DEPT. OF JU ST!CF.\nOr.c 28 3 ss PM '118\nRFrEtVED\nJAN 6 2 55 PM 'iJI\nN r .:kNA\n, , r, . '' ~ N\nF B·I\n1! , flFP' 1;: •• 1 .C: TI Cf\n•"
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   "n": 78,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p78.jpg",
   "text": "..\n•\nPAGE THREE\nCOMMERCI AL REPRESENTATIVES .\nACTION TO BE TAKEN BY OSI, DAYTON, OHIO,\nNOT KNOWN AT THIS MOMENT AND IT IS POSSIBLE THEY MAY DESIRE FILM\nFOR REPRODUCTION THEIR FACILITIES THERE.\nIF BUREAU DES IRES LA OFFICE\nTO OBTAI N FROM PERSON AND SMITH THE IR FI LM AND NEGATIVES , THIS MIGHT\nBE CONSI DERED.\nPICTURES TAKEN BY PERSON WI TH FOUR BY FI VE SPEEDGRAPHIC\nCAMERA AND THZSE PI CTURES SHOULD BE READ I LY AVAILABLE .\nNOACK FI LM\nAND PART OF JET PROPULSI ON WI NG TIP BEING MAI NTAI NED HOUSTON AWAITI NG\nSUGGESTED DISPOSI TI ON AND HANDLI NG BY EI THER BUREAU OR OSI .\nCI NC I NNATI\nOFFICE BEI NG MADE COGN IZANT TO COVER POSS IBILITY THAT BUREAU MAY\nDI RECT LIAI SON WITH OSL, DAYTON.\nAMSD LETTER FOLLOWS TO BUREAU AND\nINTERESTED OFFICES ENCLOSI NG SIGNED STATEMENT OF NOACK.\nWILLIS\nEND A IN O PLS\nWA\n225PM OK FBI WA LS\nCI\nOK FBI CI JCL\n~\n1-~\nLA OK FBI LA EDS\nDISCM\nr~ \\JJl;t;Jl"
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   "n": 79,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p79.jpg",
   "text": "•\n....\nRECEIVED TELETYPE UNIT\nDre 28 2 29 PH l~8\nf .8.1. DEPT. OF JUSTICE\n3JHSOf :lO 'ld30 ·s ·o\n• I 8 :J ·\nu~Jv~·-Ql31\\t3J3~\n03\"13J3 l:i\n'"
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   "n": 80,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p80.jpg",
   "text": "Mr. ToJaon........\nMr. Ce ............\nMr, Gtartu ......... .\nMr. Ladd....... . ...\nMr. Nichol,......... .\nMr. Rosou ......••••\nMr. 'I'rAOJ,'• •• . ...•••• •\nlib-, E llD .••.••.•••••\nMr. PenuiDJton .....\nMr. Qiunn Tiurun •••\nIUllEAU Of t1CVE.STIGATIO~\n~otPAATMEMT OF )USTICE\n..\n;:MUMICATlOMS $ECTIOII •\n. O£C 291948\n-~~\nER\n.I\nff/; ~H 10 FROM LOS ANGELES\n29\n9-07 PM\n/DIRECTOR\nROUTINE\nr1,t\n·\n/\nW /1J{;_~/\nFLYING DISK, LONNIE EDWAR✓NOACK ,\nCOMPLAINANT .\n!3/J-~~j,.<,(\nTELETYPES FROM HOUSTON AND LA TWENTYEI GHTH INSTANT,\n1!F7W\n~ (\nTHREE PARTS OF SUBJECT DESCRIBED BY r:,cK SECURED FROM NATHAN\nj\n;&ITH, LA AND EXHIBITED TO HENRY 0\nrcE, OHLSON AND RICE\nMANUFACTURING COMPANY , THREE THREE FOUR ZERO\nEMERY STREETi,~\nLA .\nRICE POSITIVELY IDENTIFIED THESE PARTS AS COMI NG FROM ,A\\.\nMODEL TOW TARGET CONSTRUCTED BY CLAUDE L. WOLFORD, FIVE FOUR\nFIVE FOUR CHESLEY AVE. , LA.\nONE PART BEING STAMPED WOLFORD\n& WW PLASTICS MOLDING CO. j LA.\nTOW TARGET WAS TESTED BY\nRICE AND WOLFORD USING RI CE, s AIRPLANE OVER NATHAN SMITH,s\nAIRFIELD NEAR HELENDALE, CALIF.\nTHE TEST WAS A FAILURE, THE\nTARGET CRASHED AND WAS ABANDONED AT THE AIRFIELD.\nNO FURTHER\nINVESTIGATION BEING CONDUCTED AND THE THREE ITEMS SECURED FROM\nI\"\\\nSMITH WILL BE RETURNED TO HIM UNLESS BUREAU ADVISES TO\n-\n...W\nCONTRARY,\nREPORT WILL BE SUB!.ITTED,\nff:IJ,.-----'\nHOOD\nRECORDED. 42 I t.d.=:\n',( J§_,9I~ -/ ~\nIN\nD . 4\"\nF \"\n,.\nCINCINNATI _!,_AND HOUSTON AJ)V • w.\n1..\nJAN 3 1949\n~~\n- ~_J.t}\nACK PLSI~~ ~Vs ✓tJJl'-~ / ~-\n•\n•\nS,'-'\n~\ni~~\n~ \\'v\nlfr, Neue....... .... ,"
  },
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   "n": 81,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p81.jpg",
   "text": "•\nRECEIVED TELETYPE UNIT\nll£c'29 If 1a PM '~8\nF.8.1. DEPT. OF JUSTICE"
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   "n": 82,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p82.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n..\n~\nOffice Memorandum •\nlJN lTED STATES GOVERNMENT\nTO\nMR. D. M. ~\nDecember 28, 1948\nFROM\nH. B. FIETC~ /J •\n::: ~t!:·-­\nrn\n:: ~~1n_\n_\n11r. N1cnols_\n_\nSUBJ ECT:\n(1'FLYING DISCS\nIC\". Rosen__\n.IC'. Traer__\n:::=·=·..===\nllr- tte.rbo__\nllr. llOllr__\nMr. Peph{ngw.Q_\nReference is made to the teletype of December 28, 1948,\nllr. Quinn Tua_\nTele. Roo■ __\nfrom the Houston Office.\nMr. se.aae__\nMU• Kolmiio__\nAt J:JO p.m., I called SAC Hood of the Los Angeles Office\nand i~cted that he attempt to locate Mr. Person and Mr. and Mrs .\nNat~th, secure photographs and film in their possession and also\nsecure from them the location of the described flying disc. I also\ninstructed that Mr. Hood send out sufficient Agents to find the disc~\n1uee\n/\nand guard it until it could be properly handled by the appropriate Government -'<...._/_\nauthority. I also telephoned the Houston Office and told them to send\nin the photographs or film in their possession, t ogether with the part which\nhad been recovered from the machine by the Informant Noack.\nAt 5 :00 p.m., SAC Hood called back and stated that all work on\nthis matter should be innnediately discontinued.\nThey had managed to\nreach Mr. Nathan Smith and he stated that he knew al l about this matter;\nthat it was not a f lying disc, but an object which had been identified\nas a tow Idte, 'Which has a disc center and wings. This Idte is actually\nmade in Los Angeles by the Olson and Rice Manufacturing Company.\nA call\nwas made to Olson and Rice, who admitted making a kite along the lines\ndescribed by Mr. Smith and they explained that they had tried to fly it\nand it had failed and they had abandoned it.\nMr. Hood stated he did not have full details at the time of his\ncall, but he did have this report from the Agents. Therefore, I instructed\nthat he call Mr. Willis of the Houston Office immediately in order that the\nfilm and the part available to the Houston ·Office will not be forwarded\nfor Laboratory examination.\nHBF:esb\nRECORDED -42\nINDEXED - 42\na~rs\n\""
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   "n": 83,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p83.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nt\nI 8 :J\n8& HV fJl 6 62 1J()\n33JH;or :10 ·1030 ·s ·n\nI 8 ~\nlwv·1-03hl333H\nOiltl3J3ll"
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   "n": 84,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p84.jpg",
   "text": ".\n-~\n..\n..·oj;;MMemorfffltaum·\nSTAT:rs- GOVE NMtENT.\n~\n-­\nDIRPL\"l'OR FBI\nBt;ECT! ~ \"FLlING SAUO~\" OESl!RVED O'Vm\n1\n.... ......\n:\n~~£la-~\nI L\nOAK RIDGE AREA\n'7:/) t·· ·\n~\nINrEmlAL SlOOURITY - X\n•\nI/ ,\n\"\"'\"1\n~ --···\nx\n--(;r I. ( I uJ .fA\n/\\ I\nI\n,. ~:;·~D-· ...\nThere are beine submitted herm.th two photographs of ropu\n''.fl\"\"'ns\nsaucers\"which were seen at Oak Ridee, Tennessee, sometime during Jul,y'fe(' .\n•\nAll of the 1.nf'ormation contained in this letter was received from Mt-. a;\nRNmMAlf, Chief Investigator, Security Division, Atanio En«rS7 Ccmnias\n•••• a\nColonel c. D. GASSm1 Resident Jlnsineer, Air Material Carnrnarn1_., United States\n~\n1_who ie tho principal army \"technioian at the Nuclear ~ ..far__tb.e Pro­\npulsion of Aircraft Research Center at Oak Ridee_, Tennessee.\n­\n/\nMr. RATHMAN advised that the attached photogr:e.phs were taken by w. R.\n/ PRl!SLEY in July of 1947. He stated that interview with PRE3LEY revealed that he\nhad been snappine photographs of bis f'amil.y in front of hie residence at 218\nIl11no1s Avenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, late in the e.f'ternoon, when he l.ooked\ninto the sky and observed the vapor trail as emibited by the photograph numbered\n\"l.\" PRESLEY stated that he took a snap of this trail, was winding the film to\nthe next number, when he looked into the sky and\"observed the ball of fire as\nshown in photograph 2. Upon observine the unusual phenomena, he used his last\nlfilm in tald.ng photograph #2.\nP.RllSLEY made these photographs available to re­\n,iportere of the Knoxville News-Sentinel and a story concerning them was run 1n\nthat paper; however, as shown by the photostatic copy of the newspaper clippine,\nwhioh is also being submitted herewith to the Bureau, the print was very indis­\ntinot; the news story did not contain an:r .factual information; and 1t was regarded\ngenerally by the public at the time as a\n' ,◊se ~L~le tt-ick.\n\")\n1,\nLater, it w.a learned by Mr. RA~llDL.• ....nd Colonel G.ASS:HE that PRllSLEY\nhad made several copies of this photograph and had distributed them 8lllOJl8 his\nacquaintances at Oak Ridge, Tennessee.\nUpon Colonel GASSl!R'e finding tbat the\ne__\npho\"toei:apha had received some distribution, he requested Mr. RA'IBMAN as Head of\nthe Can:pllance and Investigations DiVision, to recover as many as possible of\nthe photographs, advise the persons in whose possession they were found to say\nnothing to aeyone concernins them, and to retm-n the said photographs to him\nf'or traDSmission to the United States Air Foroe Yii'teD..fgence 'Servica. Mr. RAmMAN\nadvises tnat7fe- sucoee'a.ed inrounding up twenty-four copies of these photographs,\nand that, ac~ordins to the statements of P.RFSLEY, no more copies were made or\ndistributed. RATHMAN further stated that GASSm had appeared extremely concerned\nover the matter and seemed to be quite emphatic that the mtter should be given\nno more publloity than was absolutely necessary. RA'lEMAN also advised that he\nstudied the negatives from which the reproductions were mde, and th y appee.red\nA\nto be authentic in that trick photography should have been apparent, ut from the ~\nRECORDED •}4 i(a ~\nl1 r;) .iJ.J..w_\n~~~\nF\n.B\n][ /\n~ /\nNOEXED.- 121 /. 3~·JA'149\n~\n(v\n)\n'1'1~\n."
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   "n": 85,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p85.jpg",
   "text": "., r\nI\n'­\nj\n\\T\n• r\ni •\nr\n.. ,\n') . (\n. ...\nJ.\nJ\n•\n-r\n• i\nt •\n• T\nC\n,:;\nI ,\n,T\n, .. .\n.\n'\n3~\\1.SM ~O ·1.cf~O·s·n.\n·\\ 'l\\' ='\n.\n~\\1, 'ft~ <3S \\1 ~ \\ t\\'3\\'\nNO\\l~3S \" QS\\°1 \\'\\\n>.~'d3~3 ~\\\\;Ol~\nQ-:\\~,1~1'r\\"
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   "n": 86,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p86.jpg",
   "text": "• t\n. \\\n..\nnegatives certainly did not appear to be the case. It was Mr. RATEMAN'e\nobservation that had the negative been \"doped\" with some sort o'f' chemical, it\nwould have removed the emulsion from the 'f'ace o'f' the ril.m in such a way that\nthe ne~tive would have been thin at the point which is supposedly a ball of\nfire, v'hereas, in fact, both the vapor trail and the corona of fire are dark\non the'negative, indicati118 that it was an actual exposure. It was the opinion\nof Mr•. RATHMAN that the photographs were, withn.ut doubt, authentic.\nIn accordance with Bureau instructions, no active investigation of\nthis ma.tter was made, but it was deemed advisable to interview Colonel GASSER\nprior to submitting the photographs to the Bureau.\nColonel GASSER~ redicp.ted his remarks concerning the \"flyi118 saucers\"\nor \"mystery missiles\" b; fstat~ that he lmew nothi118 of an official nature\nconcerning them, other than the 'f'act that they were believed by air force\nintelligence officials to be man-made missiles, rather than some natural\nphenomena. It was his :rurther belief that a great deal of inf'ormation had been\ncompiled concerning these missiles by air force intelligence, and that research\non the matter was being extensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio.\nHe also\nexpressed. the opinion that information at the disposal of the United States Army\nAir Force Intelligence had, in all probability, been made available to the\nBureau at Washington, D. C.\n(Eolonel GASSER then.continued with hie own ideas as to what might be\nthe nature of these discs, which ideas he had formulated through review of\nthose known facts and theoretical conjectures of himself and other scientists\nconcerning the nature of flying discs and method.a o'f' propulsion for such type\nof aerial mechanism. According to him, flying discs have long been a theoretical\npossibility and, in fact, a possibility which would ind.icate one of the beet\n- means by which to break through the barriers of the supersonic area. Scientists\nhave, for many yeaxs, been attempting to develop this type of aircraft.\nSome\nexperimentation has been done even in the United States, but insofar as is\nknown in the United States at the present time, there have never been any\npractical developments. As a second '!'actor of consideration, Colonel GASSER\nstated that insofar as is known to U.S. scientists at this time, there is no\nknown chemical fuel which would make possible tremendous range of flight such\nas is ascribed to the reported \"flyi118 saucers. \" There is only one possible\nfuel which could be utilized. which is in accord with present theory, and that\nis the utilization of atomic energy;\\ As further evidence of this possible means\nof propulsion, Colonel GASSER calledattention to the vapor trail and gaseous\ncorona described as a ball of fire, which he states might give some evidence\nto the fact that a radio-active field is present.\nHe explained that th~ corona,\nor exhaust, has what appears to be layers of intensity which are circular rather\nthan elongated and have no tendency to trail at the extremities, as would be\nthe case if a normal type of exhaust from a oombustion engine was being utilized\nin the propulsion of these aircraft. He continued that the vapor trail left by\nthe missile appears to be one single line of uni.form intensity which is extremely\nslow in dissipating. It was pointed out by him that in the case of a normal\n- 2 ­"
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   "n": 87,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p87.jpg",
   "text": ". '\nvapor trail being left by an aircraft moving at extreme~ high speeds or extremely\nhigh altitudes, the vapor trail usually will be from the wing tips and/or the\nexhau~t of the engines, thus presenting several lines. But, in any event, even\n~ouslj onJJ, one line were visible, it would be ~ther quick to dissipate. This\nindif1ted to him that the vapor trail represents some atmospheric change along\nthe :path or the missile, which voul.d not be the case were it any presently known\ntype of aircraft.\n\"'1.1>\n1.L\n;e:e continued that 1nf'arma t on\nshed b him should be\nthe. u;gp.oe ,gon:£'1 enia. in\nt he was not !E_eald.~ off c a\nbut as a\nere\nl\n\\ j \\ Datter of C~EGJ;t1gR. Re s¥atea that the mtter wasoeing g ven absolutely no\n•aieeem!nation by t he air force or other JD.ilita:cy persOID1el, and that they had\nnot deemed it advisable to advise him of all information pertaining to the missile.\nHe continued, however, that in his conversation w1th representatives at Wright\nField and in re&d.ing reports returned to this country by f'ore1gn agents, he had\ngathered together certain information which might be of assistance in determining\nwhether or not these so-called missiles were authen:tf.o, usable and of claxJser to\nthe United Statee. First, he pointed out that knowledge o£ such a possible\naircraft is not by aey meaDS new, it having been known as early as four years\nago that same type of flying disc was be1ns experimented with by the Russians.\nIn addition thereto, he stated that more recent reports have been received\nfrom representatives of the Central Intell.igence Agency in Southern Europe and\nSouthern Asia to the effect that the Russians were experimenting with some type\nof radical aircraft or guided missile which could be dispatched for great dis­\ntances out over the sea, mde to turn in flight and return to the base from which\nit was launched. Thie fact was extremely worthy of notice as experiments in\nthis country have so far only developed to the point where we are concerned with\ndeliverine a missile to the required point of impact, and no consideration has\nbeen given to imparting to that missile the ability to return. Seconcll.y, he\nstated that it is a known fact that the Russians are attempting to develop\nsome type of nuclear energy, that they received a wealth of information concern­\ning nuclear energy at the time of their occupation in Ge.rmany, and that they too\nhave at their dispoeal the limited supply of the necessary fissionable materials.\nHe stated that insofar as aey opinion as j;o hether or not they have the ability\nand scientific lmowledge to create such • u\n-\no elled missile is etrictl.J'\na matter o£ conjecture, and that he wou\nesitate o\nnite statement.\nHe pointed out, however, that the Russians have acme very capable scientists in\nthe field of atomic energy and that, in addition thereto, they took into their\ncustoc:'cy sane of the most advanced and capable scientists of the Ge:r,mn Nation.\nRe also etated that a peculiar fact concerning the missiles exists\nfrom reports he has received which is worthy of notice, and that is that from\nall appearances, they usually approach the United States from a northerly direc­\ntion and have been reported as returning in a norther.cy direction. None have\never been lmown to crash, coll.ide or disintegrate over American soil, but it\nwoul.d appear that they come to the United States, cruise around, and go back\nover the North Pole. He states that insofar as is known to him, there has never\n-3­"
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   "n": 88,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p88.jpg",
   "text": "/\nbeen any piece of one recovered from any source whatever in order that ~tical\nstudy of its nature could be nade. Insofar as was known to him, the o~ actual\n1fA~er1f,l which would be of~ value in determining its nature ere telephoto\n:f.ho!!phs which are now in the possession of engineers at Wright Field, Dayton,\nOhi\nHow detailed and how clear these photographs are, he was unable to state.\nHes ted that one report has been reoeived concerning a collision o:f these\nmissiles with another type of aircraft. This report, according to him, took\nplace a ehort time prior to the report of numerous discs overr the United States,\nand the report 8l1Bllated from Czeohoslovalda. This report was th.at a Czecho­\nslovakian transport had collided with some unidentified missile while in mid-air\nover the ocean, and that said missile and said transport bad been complete~\ndisintegrated vith.out recovery of parts or eurvivors tram eith.er. It was the\nbelief of Colonel GASSER that this undescribed missile was perhaps the same tY'Pe\nof thing as the f~ng saucer~ Another :factor of' notice, accord.ins to Colonel\nGASSm, and as is portrayed by the photographs, it would appear that the missiles\noan be maintained at a certain altitude above the contour of the ground. This\ncould be done by, means of acme t1\"P9 of radio altimeter or radio control. Natu­\nrally, the path of the missile is not in emct parallel to the contour, as its\npurported great speed would create considerable lag in its flight. Another\nfactor which is wor~ of note, according to Colonel GASSER, is that it is\nnormally reported as beins seen at tremendouelJ' hish altitudes and al.ways travel­\ning in a straight line. He stated that he himself observed, on one occasion, a\nsingle vapor trail coming fran sane type of aircraft at unbelievabl.7 high altitudes,\nvhioh vapor trail extended tran horizon to horizon in a perfectly straight line.\nHe observed the vapor trail while it was in the process of :formation and states\nthat it vae ccmplete~ unlike ~\nvapor trail he had ever observed before 1n all\nof his experienoe vith the air foroe. It was his judgment that whatever creat ed\nthe vapor trail vas traveliDS at an unbelievably tremendous speed. This, together\nwith reports that when close to the ground,the missile travels at speeds which\nmake possible visual observation of its actions, would refl.ect that there is\nsane ability to control the speed of these missiles as well as the altitude.\n( colonel GASSER concl.uded that this matter, whil.e still purely a matter\nof gueeevork, is nevertheless a source of great concern to the military establ.ish­\n:ment of this country. Great efforts have been expended by the service to determine\nJust what the nature of these missil.es might be and, upon so determinins, deci d.e\nwhether or not an adequate defense can be establ.ished. He also stated that it\nhas given impetus to the research being done by the air farce in their own pro­\ngram of nuclear mert53 for the propulsion of aircraft to devel.op guided missil.es)\nHe also advised that insofar as was known to him, there was absolutely no con­\nnection betwem these missiles and the fact that they vere observed close to\nOak Ridge, Tennessee. He stated that this vas perhaps, and probably, a mtter\nof coincidence and they were seen in this area merely as they vere seen in forty­\nsix of the forty-eight states of the United States during the Month of July when\nso~ reports were being received.\nThie inforr.ration is being submitted to the Bureau for whatever val.ue it\nmay be, and no further action 1n the nntter is beina contemplated by this office,\nunless advised to the contrary.\nCCM:bk\n65-11\nEnclosures - 3\n-4-­"
  },
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   "n": 89,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p89.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n. . ...\nsfA.NDAAdtr0AM NO. C~\n.,\n•\nf ,..\n~ .Office Memorandum\n•\n• UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nTo\n~~rector, FBI\nDATE :\n12/28/48\nFR~ {\\ Ac, Houston\nsyBJ: ~\nYING PISCt;: L,\nl_;\nLONNIE EDWo/OACK, Complainant\nAttention: Assistant Director D. M. Ladd\nRemytel 12/28/48 in the above captioned matter.\nF9,P-\"'the BU7eau's information, on 12/27/48 Mr. FULLER\n\"1:fLACKWELL, an attorney with offices 410 Kress BuiLding,\nHouston, Texas, telepho~ically contacted the~oton\nOffice to advise that he had a friend, LONNI\nOACK,\nwho had some information on an object which ight be\na flying disc.\nMr. BLACKWELL stated he was calling in\nresponse to Mr. NOACK's suggestion and as a means of\ndetermining what authorities would have an interest\nin this matter.\nHe said Mr. NOACK was a machinist\nemployed by the Humble 011 and Refining Company, Houston.\nMr. BLACKWELL, in calling, advised that the disc, or\nobject, was approximately eight feet in diameter, had a\ntail and wings, and apparently was equipped for jet\npropulsion.\nHe stated NOACK had observed this.object\nat a desert location near Las Vegas, Nevada;\nfurther,\nthat Mr. NOACK had taken some movie film of the disc and\nthat this film was currently in his possession.\nImmediately upon receipt of the above information,\nMr. Robert B. Fleming, Special Agent, o.s.r., Ellington\nField, Texas, was notified as was true of Captain Harold\nBush, MID representative, also Houston.\nAs a result of\nthese referrals, arrangements were effected with Mr.\nNO~ to bring his film to the Houston Office for a showi\n~~ P.M., 12/27/48.\nThis was done with Messrs . Bush,\n~~~leming, Noack, and Special Agent Graham W. Kitchel and\n~~Cj\\,)~C).,, the writer observing.\nArrangements were then made for\n~\n~ -\nMr. NOACK to again a~pear at the Houston Office on the\ni\n\\\\ morning of 12/28/48 in order that his information might be\n&:duced to writing.\nMr . NOACK in making his initial\nw>pearance at the office surrendered his movie film which\n~\n~ consisted of one 50 foot roll of 8 nim mov1e •f11m.\nApproximately\n~)(_,~ <<J-fifteen feet of this roll relates e~ciusively to the pictures\n{\n~~~ of the flying disc .\n>i;,,.odil\n\"lliY\n(\\f\\~\nS))\n.\nC\\) 4J ~;R..,~ q~, / 1 V\n' \\ , coP ~s DESTROYED\n~\n·\n,\n~tCO~U'- -\n• F\n-\nI\n~\n2 7 U\nNOV 18 l~b4\n...1l\nn ~\nJAN 141949\n\\\"\\)°'t\\, •"
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   "n": 90,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p90.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n. .\nt\n.. .\nC\nr v\n.. r\n\\\n\\\nI\nt.\n~\nl,_\nf\n'\n'\n!)\n~\n!)\nC'. '\nl\n.'\n' ('\n::>\nt ,..\n~\n, .\nC\nC •\nC'\n(\nC\nr.\n'l\nC\nl\n•\n. (\nl\n•\n~ C\n(\"\nC\nr\nr\n\\\nJ\nC\"\n' ('\n:)\nC\nC\n(\n. r\nl\n•\nI\nQ.\nr\nC.\n.,.\nC\n. C\nC\n(\n33!1S0f JO 'J.d30 ·s ·n\nI 8 :J\nIJOV1-03Al3J3N"
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   "n": 91,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p91.jpg",
   "text": ". ,\n•\n•\nDirector\nRe: Flying Disc\nHO 12/28/48\nWhile observing the object, Mr. NOACK noted an aluminum\ncyJ1nder which had become detached from one of the wing\ntips and he brought this back with him as a souvenir.\nThis\ncylinder conceivably could act as a rudder, a rocket\nhousing, or fuel tank attachment.\nMr. NOACK initialled\nthe cylinder and surrendered it also.\nThere are attached hereto for the Bureau two copies of a\nsigned statement taken from Mr. NOACK dated Houston, Texas,\n12/28/48.\nTwo copies of the statement are attached for\nthe Los Angeles Office, and one informational copy is being\ndesignated for the Cincinnati Division.\nThe original is\nbeing retained in the Houston file. One copy of the statement\nis attached to the copy of this letter for the FBI Laboratory.\nDuring the interview with Mr. NOACK, Mrs. ROSE C. ROTSEL, a\nstenographer for O.S.I., Ellington Field, recorded the\nstatement for O.S.I. use .\nInitial information obtained concerning this flying disc\nwas furnished telephonically to Inspector Howard Fletcher\nat the Bureau, 9 A.M., 12/28/48.\nMr. Fletcher requested\nthe Bureau be given a summary of the information by teletype,\nwith interested offices being similarly notified, and that\nthe signed statement of NOACK be submitted AMSD.\nHe further\ninstructed that he did not want the Bureau \"side tracked\" in\nthe handling of this matter, but that FBI representatives\nshould assume an active interest in the investigation\nthroughout, cooperating, of course, with O.S.I. representatives.\nMr . Fleming's headquarters are the District Commander, 5th\no.s.r. District, Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio.\nOn the morning\nof 12/28/48 Mr. Fleming sent a telegram to his District\nCommander giving a general summary of the original complaint.\nMr. Fleming was unable to advise how the 5th o.s.r. District\nwould handle their inquiry in this matter.\nHe stated this\ncould either be handled by Wright Field dispatching a special\nplane to California or by having their District Commander, 18D,\nO.S.I . , San Bernardino, California handle it. He stated\n1n any event it would be necessary for O.S.I. representatives\nto first confer with Mr. R. C. PERSON, named in this statement,\nas being the individual who initially discovered the flying\ndisc and would lmow also its present whereabouts.\n-2­"
  },
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   "n": 92,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p92.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n. .\nDirector\nRe: Fl7ing Disc\nHO 12/28/48\nMr. PERSON, as indicated, maintains a business at 4116\nAvalon Boulevard, Los Angeles, California, telephone\nAdams 5281.\nTo insure the Bureau's participation in this matter,\nSAC R.B. Hood, of the Los Angeles Office, was contacted\ntelephonically at approximately 11:30 A.M. (CST)\n12/28/48 with the suggestion he maintain contact with\nMr. PERSON.\n+t1\n,,,JI., .,\nAlso in keeping with Bureau instructions, the roll of\n/\nfilm received from Mr. NOACK, together with the aluminum 71\nportion of the fuselage, is being forwarded separately to 1t\"\",jr\nthe Bureau, attention FBI Laboratory.\nO _\nti~\n~\ntli-'\nGNW:NK\nEncl.(2)\nAIR MAIL SPECIAL DELIVERY\n~\niJiqt1\nCC:\nLos Angeles (Encl.) AMSD\nCincinnati (Encl.)\nAMSD\nFBI, Laboratory (Encl.)\nPackage\n-3­"
  },
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   "n": 93,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p93.jpg",
   "text": ", .\n•"
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   "n": 94,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p94.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nI"
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   "n": 95,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p95.jpg",
   "text": "Houoton, Texas\nDec • ?.8, 1948\n,I, LOiffiIE EDWARD )WACK, residing 2921 Cl'.1cago\nStreet, Houeton 17, TexaE, make the following statement to\nSpecial Agent Robert D. Plemine and Chr1etopher R. Dradley,\nreDreeentatlvcc of the Of.t'1ce ot E-pecia'l Investigat ton,\nEllington OSI Detachment, Ellington Field, Texoa, and\nSpecial J\\gents Orahain . &itohel ana Galen N. I1llia who\nI know to be Special !agents of the Pederal Bureau or\nInYest1pt1on.\nOn Monday afternoon December 6, 1948, at about\n6 P.N., Mr. a.c. PERSON, Mr. YfATHAlf SJII'l'H,. )Ir. C.A. TOCK,\nMr. R01SER'J.' BROUSSARD and another man, n&Jl8 not recalled,\nand I had dinner at the Old Virginia Inn, Loa Angeles,\nCalifornia. After dinner we went back to Mr.. Ssnitn•a\nelectrical manutactur1ng company which he own.a and operates\n1l1 Loa Angeles, CA11torn1a.\nMr. PERSON told us about aeeing\na tlytng diac and we made an appointment to leave early\nthe next mom!~ by car• with our oueraa, to go to the\nlocation or the d11c.\nMr. PERSON waa detained at some\nprivate air f.ield so we did not leave until about 2 P.M.\nml. December 7. 1948.\nWe arrived at the acene ot the\ntlyin.g diso and ~ook pictures of the d1ac which vaa still\n171.ng around. Mr. SIIIITB took about 10 1'eet of 16 mm tilm\nand Mr. PERSOX took five or six ahota wlth a Speed Graphic\nCamera.\nHe noticed that the t1r•t three shots were taken\nwhen the adapter on his lens was closed too much and I\ndon•t icnow 1r they turned out all :right.\nJllr. SMIT!I\n•uggested I hold the t1ying diac up and rotate it around\nand he would teke llY' p1ctu\n•1th 1ror came~.\nAtti!r\ntaking the picture•, we patched the fence o~ Mr. PERSOK'•\nproperty where people had been cutting the wire to get to\na road.\nf left and then d~ove baok and had dinner at\nEaton•a Inn and they took me back home to Hollywood,\nca11tom1a.\nI would like to recite that I loft Houston, Texan\n11:30 A.M. on Sunday; December 5. 1948, tor Cal~fornia by\nplane and tlew to Hollywood, California on o commercial\nplane on buoinese matters.\nOn arriving 1n Hollywood, I mot\nMr. PERSON in Holly,rood on Monday, December 6, 1948,. and\nat that time he told :me about the tlylng disc he had located.\n'He stated he bad gone to Laa Vegaa by h1a personal plane\nand saw the disc from the a1~ on hie way back."
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   "n": 96,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p96.jpg",
   "text": "..\nOn December 7, 1948 •• went out J.n Mr. tfA'l'HAlf\nSNITH'• car and ploked up h1a wife and left hia hoae in\nSouth Pasadena about 11 A.M.\nWe drove out to an airport\nwhere hia plane was about rorty a1lea trom Pasadena DN\nhe was having the plane repaired.\nHe wanted to be aure\nthe plane was on a truck betore we left for the destination\nwhere the di•c •••. Iri aaking thia trip, we proceeded\nout by a race track and ~•••done ot the Kaiser ateel\nworks and the Virginia Dare Wine Orchard.\nI would say\nwe went directly north or northeast tr,om Pasadena,\nca11rom.1a. We droTe through a town called Matonia\n(phonetic) and tollowed a roaa through •o•e mountaina and\nthrough. a ••11 de1ert.\nI would eatiute the di•tance trom\nPasadena to where the d1ac ••• tound to be about 150 mllea.\nThe terrain 1n wh1oh the diac waa tound could be described\n•• tlat,deaert. and de■ olate.\nt would like to •~lain that Jlr. PERSON haa\nprivate ~pert,- (an airport which he purcba••d rrom the\ngovemaent) right by the location or the d1ac.\nMr. PER.SOR\nthought the di•c might have been launched tro11 hie ail'J)ort.\nbut whether that ••• it or not - •• don•t know.\nNr. PERSON\n1a1d he usually tlew at an altitude or about 8,000 te•t\nand, or course, he tlew lower 1n ao• apaced. He did not\nmention hia altitude at the t1M he tlrat eaw the diac.\n'lbe disc waa located preot1ca117 Juat outa1de his pros:,erty\nand •• were going north, •o it would be eaat or hia property.\nHe has about 900 acres.\nWhen •• arr1ved at Mr. ,PERSON' • propert7, •• aaw\nthe d1ac, or .flying wing, and it n■ on th• ground 1n a\naeJll1-vert1cal poe1t1on, approxiJnately a 45 de~• arigle,\nWith the le:t\"t wing babedltd in the gr9und. In loold.J:tg at\nthe ground, it appeared that the obJect had hit the earth with\ncona1derable force and had slid 300 to 400 feet. It wa•\ndent•d but was generally intact. I th1illc the picture, I took\nwith a Revere 8 -\ncamera quite well ahow th• tom, shape\nand size or the \"wing.\" I am 5' 7\" tall and 1n atand1ng next\nto the object when it was in an upright poaition, 1t wae\nalightl7 higher than my height.\nI would ••7 it waa rollgbly\nseven feet in diameter, b•fore crashing.\nOn each e1de or the obJect there were w1rma\napproxillately t~ur feet b7 twent7 inches and three 1nohes thick\nwith an axle that protruded through the dlac and 1.J\\to the wing■•\nIt waa aounted on ball bear1nge which the diac rotated on.\n2"
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   "n": 97,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p97.jpg",
   "text": "1be disc .1iielf wae approx1111ately two reet thick\nin the center, tapering to a reather edge at tll• rim.\nOn\nthe outalde or the disc, near the rill, there were tunnel\nshaped cupa bradded on and these were apace4 all around\non both aides, each cup ti-.C approxiMtel,- twenty tnehea\napart.\nThe openings of these cups were to the rear. The\nd1ac 1teelr was natural al'UD'linum with no paint on it except\not the type or aluminum which waa 24 S.T. and 1t bore th1a\nstamp.\n'l'he ·wings were painted a yellow.green cuaoutlage\ncolor.\nThe wing has a leading edge similar to that ot\nan airplane and tapera to the rear to a teather edge.\nll'he\nwing••• ribbed throughout with altiJDinum r1ba ror substantial\natrength. Each wing had a s1.m1lar rocket cartridge on each\ntip tutened by two bolts.\nI bad one ot the winga in my\npo■ aeea1on and have turned it over to the proper authorities.\n'l'he cartridge on the one I had waa apparently knocked orr\n1n the craeh.\n•\nThere were two strut bars attached approxi•tel7\ntwenty 1nchea h-011 the disc leading to the rear with an\nelevator.\nAlao, the two struts protruded toward ·the front\nwith something attached, a weight or aome tow a)'Btem, which\nwaa during the oraeh anchored into the ground and bent\nand we could not exactly determine how 1t waa weighted or\ncontrolled.\nI would say the elevator wu approximately\ntwenty-two inches long and about 5/8 inch thick with a alight\ntaper to the rear and probably ten 1nchea wide.\n'nle at\"'•\nextending trom the trailing edge or th• wing to the •levator\nwere •d• ot 5/8 inch steel tubing. The di■ c, in being\nlifted,\nwould J~dge to weigh rro~ 80 to 100 pounds.\nWith respect to the picture• taken, I took\napproximately 15 reet ot colored 8 mm film.\n.\nTbe diec was built where they had the proper\nequipment to do ttie neceeaaey work because the7 had to have\na epot welder and bu1ldµig equipment to male• the d1t'ferent\nangles.\nI ll1ght add that I ua an in■ tru■ent Ulcer tor the\nBUlllble 011 and Ret1n1ng. ColllJ)any and haYe a generally good\nknowledg• of machine and metal work.\nThere was nothing on\nthe object to 1nd1oate ita origin, whether .American or foreign\n•ke. It would appear, however, from the alum1nwa,worlalianah1p,\netc. that it probably waa American 11&.de.\n-3­"
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   "n": 98,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p98.jpg",
   "text": "Arter we r1ntshed taking our pictures and d1scuaet.ng\nthe object among ourselves, Mr. PER.SOK expreaaed an 1ntent1on\nor obtaining a truck and hauling the object to his ehop.\nI\ncannot say at th1• tiJJle whether he did th1a or not or where\nthe object uy be at this particular ·date. Ve r1n1ehed\n'\nour observation and picture taking at approx1.Jllatel7 5i30\nor 6 P.M. on December 7.\nIn reaponae to Mr. Fleming'• inquiry, there waa np\">\nradio equipment noted on the obJect 1n any: tashion or rorm.\nWe returned to Pasadena, California, that evening\narriving 1n Hollywood about 9 or 9,30 P.JII.\nI took some more\npictures that night along BollJW00d Boule•ard on the unt1n1ahed\nroll or t1lm and then wetn over the Chinese 'l'heatre an4 took\na picture or the a1anature or George \"Hart and r1ntahed the 1\"011.\nI bought another roll or tilm, and took them to the Eastman Xodak\nCompany the following JIOnday which would be December 13, 1948.\nA• I Noall, thia la•tman shop waa ,on Loa Palmaa Street 1n\nLoa Angeles, Cal1tomia. !hey 1nfo1\"1114td me they- would deYelop\nthe tilm and that it would be ready on Thur1da,t..\nI lett\n­\nCal1torn1a on Wednesday so they uiled the t11a to me at IQ'\nbuaineaa addreaa, Bumble 011 Building, Rooa 159, Houston, Texas.\nI received th••• tilma on Deoeaber 23, 1948.\nAfter J.AY return from California I mentioned to several\n~ rq bua.ineaa and •oetii.l acQuaintancea that I bad aecn t>.1•\nobject, a. dise or saucer or whatever 7ou Jil.1.ght call it, and\ntolcl the• that I had taken pictures and would be glad to ahow\nthem when the picture• arriYed.\nAa atatedi I Nce1Yed the\n111m on December 23 and at 1:30 P.N. on the same date I •bowed\nthe t1lm ~n the projection room at 11\\mble 011 to the tol1ow1ng1\nD.W. BLAIR; J. HA.'l'TAWAY;\nd.A. PETERS0JIJ\nJAMES 8. OLIVI!R;\nVILLIAN JtIED, JR.; A.E. MBLETON;\nWAYRE CRAVPOJU>s D.A. BATTLE\nand two other snen whose names I do not recall. All or theae\nmen work 1n the tnatrwnent ahop with• at HUllble 011 Is Refining\nCompany.\nI also showed the fil.JI to ay lbrother-1n-law# E. JtULAK,\nor Pasaaena, Texa■, at home on the tollowlng night.\nOn: Chriatmaa Day I met •o• friends and one ot the\ngirle wu with a young bo7 who waa intereated 1n photography.\nl do not know tiia naJM but he work• at Southern Pacitic. I told\nhim I had aome pictures or the fly~ d1•c but I did not show him\nthe pictures but explained the di■ c. I think thia boy 18 the\npeNon who had hie friend at the 11ewepaper contact me."
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   "n": 99,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p99.jpg",
   "text": "I got ho• about 10,30 A.N. and PltllUC REED,\no~ the C1t7 Deak at the •11ouaton P0at\" called• and wanted\nto know about the d1ac. I told him I oould not g1Te hi■\nany 1nt\"ol'll&t1on on it. Be begged• tor the atory, but I\ntold him iI would let hill lmow and that I had trienda I\nhad to contact betore I could give hill any 1nfol\"lllll.t1on.\n! then got 1n touch •1th MP. Blackwood, '1/fT\nla-,er, the tollow1ng ■orninl and aaked hia 1r he kn­\n&n7one in the PBI.\nHe stated all th• PSI per1onnel he Jmew\nwere no longer station.cl here.\nI then contacted the J'BI\nand turned the material over to them.\nAlthougt\\ I can't deaor1be where thia obJect 1a\nlocated, I believe I could go back to it and I am aure\nMr. PEJtSOlf and and Nr. SNITH could go back to it.\nNr. MA'fflAK SNITH'• buaineaa addreaa ls Nathan\nSll1th Electrical Coapany., 105 South Pasadena Avenue, South\nPaaadena, Cal1fom1a. Mr. R. c, PDS0K 1a pre■ ident or\nthe Vaaoo m.eotr1cal llllnutaoturing Co111P&ft7, -116 ATalon\nBoulen.rd, Lo• qelea, Cal1torn1a.\nPor record p~o•••• 1n takiria the picture• above\nreteJ:'Nd to., I did ao uatng exJ)o1ure or 16 !'ram.a per aecond\nat a di.a~ openiq or t6.3.\nI ua•d••-Xodak l'.odachrome\nt1lm.\nAll'e\"r,0·N The above atate-nt., -de YOlunta-.117 abd ~or 1.he\n1 a,111,t• of proper author1t1••, 1• •d• to -;;.y b••t knowledge\nand bel1e1'.\nfiepreaentatives OSI, liiiriiton Pleld., Texas\nPBI, Houaton. Texae\n-5­"
  },
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   "n": 100,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p100.jpg",
   "text": "ENCLOSURE TO THE BUREAU\nRE:\nFLYING DISC;\nLONNIE EDWARD NOACK, Complainant"
  },
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   "n": 101,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p101.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nr-Ac, Houston\nJanu&l\"T 25, 1949\nDirector, FBI\nReterenc. is made to Los Angeles teletype dated 12/29/IJl cid to\nHoust.oa t.elet.ype dated 12/28/t.S, 61cd the subsequent trans;i.1ttal or an\n8ma\\ movie film taken by Ur. LOttiIE NOACK, along With aewral parts or\nthe aupposed flying diao to tle l nborato~y for examination.\nSineo prior to rooeipt of tte above 1 t.eJU b7 the laborator, the\ninforir.ation •a:t cbtoined which identitied the supposed t:cy:lng disc as a\ntow tare;et and later a to7 kite, no examinat.ion was conduct.eel here.\nAccord1ngl7, these 1t4ima are be1ni returned to 700. via reg;l.atered\n.:as a3694\ncc,\nSAO, Lo• An&elea\nH!conoF/\\\n4-U .. 60\n•\n• INDfXFD 60 Zl r 31 19'\n~j\n•\nEX-59"
  },
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   "n": 102,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p102.jpg",
   "text": "~·)u.snr· 10 .i.cr30 -~\nNlN;,\n'\\\nl 83\n•\n~­\n•\n~ (\\il1r-: i\\\ne~-Xl\nT 8 .1\nd0!Vij08~' 1\n1\noP, l·lV ss 6\nI"
  },
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   "n": 103,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p103.jpg",
   "text": "\"\n, Office Memml rldUm • uNtTED sTf r:s GovERNMENT\n.,\nTO\n: The Director\nDATE: January 241 1949\n\\tr. Tolson~\nFROM\n: D. M. Ladd\n11.-. Clegs,__\ntJ\n:::o~ avl\nllr. 111\ns\nSUBJECT:\nFLYING DISCS\n!Ir. Ro __\nK'\n:.: Egan,.::-.:::==\nf{fu\nI thought you might be interested in the following information\n:: ~~~\nconcerning \"Flying D1,:,c..s\" which has ~en fl.l,rnished to the Bureau on a\n::: ~::;;1,=­\nconfidential basis by Colonel- C ~Gasser, Re~id~- Erlgin~er, Air\n:~•==~\nMaterial Comnand, U. S.Arrey, who is the pr incipal anny technician at the\n~::=~\nNuclear Ehem::!csr:::t1'iErPropulsion of Aircraft ~E1ai:ch Cent.er. ~-Oak..Ridge,---­\nTennessee.\n.\nColonel Gasser stated that he knew nothing of an C2flliial._ nature__£f>,Ecerning\n''Flfi~g Discs\" other than ~he fact that they are believed by Air ,toz:E!, ,El~lljgence\nofficials to be man-made m.issil~s, }\"at.Jler_than so~ natural phenomena. It was his\nfurther bel ief that a great deal of information has been C.Q!!miled concern~ng these\nmissiles by air force intelligence.., and that r.!_search on the matter was being\nextensively done at Wright Field, Dayton, Ohio.\nColonel Gasser then continued with his own ideas as to what .might be\nthe nature of these discs which ideas he had formulated through review of those\nknown facts and theoretical conjectures of himself and other scientists concen1ing\nthe nature of flying discs and .oethods of propulsion for such type of aerial\nmechanisn. According to him, flying discs have long been a theoretical possibility,\nand,in fact, a possibility- wmcb wou!_d _indicate one of the best means by which to\nbreak through the barriers of the supersonic area. He stated that sc;.ientistLhave,\ntor- many years, been attempting to develop this type of aircraft. Some e~ri­\nmentation has been done_ even in the U~ited Sta~es, bit i nsofar as is .lmown in the\nUnited States at the present time, there have never been any practical developments.\nAs a second- factor orconsideration, Colonel Gasser stated that _insofar as is known\nto U. S. scien_!;ists at this time, there is no known chemical fuel v.hich_would .make\npossible tremendous range of flight aich as is ascribed to the reported\n11flying\ndiscs.\" According to Gasser, there is onlY ooe possible fuel;_ which could be\nuti:(°ized _which is in.. ac~ord with present theory, and that is the utilization of\natomic energy.\nHe stated that tru,s subject matter was being given absolutely no disseminc1:tion\nby the ~JQT-<;e .9r .Qt.her .milit..acy_personnel and tha.!:,_J,.!!_ey had not deen:ed it\nadyisable to advise_ him of all information pertainigg to thi~e .missile. He\n/\ncontinued, however, that in his conversation wit_~entatU,es at Wr~_E~ld\n_,/\nand in reading r~_p,orts returned _to this country by foreign agents, he had gathered\ntogether certain information which might be of assistance in determining whether or\nn~these so- call8i .missiles were authentic, usable and of aanger to the United States.\nEHM:hhr ~\nFEB 8 19 9~p /"
  },
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   "n": 104,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p104.jpg",
   "text": "•\n'\nI."
  },
  {
   "n": 105,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p105.jpg",
   "text": "..\n•\nHe pointed out that knC71'1ledge of such a ~ ssi.ble aircraft is not by aey_means\nnew and t hat i t was known as early as four years ago that some type of flying\ndiscwas being experisnented...!'i.!.,h by the Rus§,i~s.\nIn addition he said that mor!;\nrecent repo~ts .ha.v~ been...received from representatives of the Central Intell~nce\nA~ in Sout~ern Europe and Southern Asia to the effect that the Russians were\nexperimenting wjt]i some type of radical aircraft or guided missile which could be\ndispatched for great distances out over the sea, made to turn in flight and ~rn\nto the base from which it v.as launcbed.\nHe related that this information was\nextremely worthy of notic9 as experiments in this country have so far onl.y developed\nto the point where ~e are concerned with delivering a mi..ssile to the required point\nof impact, and no consideration has been given to imparting to that aus sile the\nabil ity to return.\nHe also advised that it is a known f act t hat the Russians are\nattempting to develop so~ t~e o!. nuclear energy., that. they .received a wealth..of\ninformation concerning nuclear ~nerSLA,t tbe time of their occupation in Germany,\nand that they have at their ..d.is~al a l.im:ited supply of fissionable materials.\nHe pointed out that the Rµssians have some vecy capable scientists in the field\nof atoni: energy and that, in addition thereto, they took into their custody some\nof the most advanced and capable scientists of the German Nat ion.\nColonel Gasser stated that a P.eculiar fact conce!:._ning the~ ~iles\nis found in reports he has received,that from all appearances the missiles\nusually approach the United StatesJrom a northerly direction and have been reported\nas~urn7:ng in- a northerly direct ion.\nHe advised that nO{!e have ever been known\nto crash c~llide or disintegrate over American soil, but it woula appear that they\ncome to the United St ates, cruise around, and go back over the North Pole. He\nstated that :insofar as is known to him there has never been a,nz..£!._rt of a missile\nof this type recovered from any s::>urce whatever in order that an analytical. study\nof its nature could be made.\nHe stated that on~ report hai been received concerning\na collision of these ~es ~ith another type of aircraft. This report, ac::c::ardi og\nto him, emanated from Czechoslovakia and took place a short time prior to the ~Q.tt\nofnumerous cfiscs over the Uni,1:ed States. According to Colonel Gasser a, Czechoslovakian\ntransport had reportedly collided with some unidentified missile while in mid::air\nover1£e\"o'cean, ana that the mis§ile and transpor~re co)N?lete~ disinte.ua..ted\nwithout recovery .of parts or survivors fro~her •\n. Colonel Gasser concluded that this matter, while still purely a mat\\!:\nof guesswork, is nevertheless a source of great concern to the military establl.shioont\no(_filils countr,:- He advised that great efforts have been expended by tl_le milJ.i.ary\nservice to determine the nature of these missiles and upor1so determining, decide\nwhether or not an adequate defense can'6e eslablished. He stated that it has given\nimpetus to the research being done by the air force in their own program of nuclear\nenergy for the propulsion of aircraft to develop guided missiles.\nACTION:\nNone.\n'!be above is for your :information.\n-2­"
  },
  {
   "n": 106,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p106.jpg",
   "text": "•\nAuthority:\nNND 90986\nDEPAB'nlENT OF THE ABMY\nSTA.FF J.iESS.A.GE CENTER\nINCO~INO CLASSIFIED ~LESSAGE\nCONFIDEllTIAL\nPAllA.PHRASE NOT REQ,UilillD\nPRIORITY\nFrom:\nCO Kirtland AY.B New Mexico\nTo:\nChief of Staff US.A.F attn Dir of Special Invectigatione\nOfficer of the Inspector General\n3\nNr:\nOSI-l-90\n31 January 1949\nReference previous reports. subject: unknown, aerial\nphenomena, file number 24..8.\nSighting of identical object\nreported at 2255Z 30 Jan 49 by aprx 30 people. Estimate at\nleast 100 total sightings.\nAEC1 AFSWP • 4th Army. local\nconwanders perturbed by implications of phenomena.\nSighting\nreported from El Paao, Alburquerque, Alamogordo. Roswell.\nSocorro, and other locations. All appear to be same object at\ndifferent points in trajectory.\nUn.less instructed to contrary\nthis office will make all out investigation with view to\nlocation of impact point if any. Request reply.\n~­\n4,, \"­\n'v /\n~\nACTION:\nAF\n?f\nRECORDED • lG\n,(2 - !\nINFO:\nID. PO\n-F o\n13 fEB '110. ·1JJ,W\nt i -1fli\n(l.i IN 321\n(,a Feb 49)\nDTG: 312l.45Z\nd#./B\nRC 5/1\nt'k \\G\nCOPY ~\n~\nFEB 2819\n-\nI"
  },
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   "n": 107,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p107.jpg",
   "text": "Room 5744 _31...,_..,,..__3_______ 1949\n__Personnel Fil s\nect1on\n-------·- -----------­\n--Records Secti\n_Mrs. Skillman\nSee Me\nFor Appropr iate Action\nSend File\nNot e and Return\n~\n~\nTO:\nV Director\n__Mr. Clegg\n_Mr. Glavin\n_Mr. Harbo\n_ _ Mr. Ladd\n_Mr. Nichols\n---Mr. Rosen\n__Mr. Tracy\n__Mr. Fletcher\n-Mr. Mohr\n_ _ Mr. Carlson\n_ _ Mr. Nease\n_Miss Gandy\nMr. Tracy....•••••._\nMr. Egan••••••• •-···\nMr. Guroea ..........\nMr. Harbo ...........\nMr. Mohr ·······-···\nMr. Peonlogton . ....\nl\\fr. Qulo.n Tamm....\nt.!.r. Nease...................\nMis~ Gandy.__\nClyde Tolson"
  },
  {
   "n": 108,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p108.jpg",
   "text": "1\n..\n.,\"\\,,,.!(\",_ • •\nc1JG ~\n,.-1"
  },
  {
   "n": 109,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p109.jpg",
   "text": "••\n. '11\nOffice M emorandum • UNITED S11iLL:.u -o-OVERNMENT\nr\nDirector, FBI\nSAC, Knoxville\n0\n\"FLYING SAUCEBS\" Ol3SERVED OVER OAK RIDGE AREA\nINTERNAL SECURITY - X\nDATE: February 18, 1949\nReference is made to Knoxville letter to the Director dated January 10~\n1949, entitled as above.\nThere is being :forwarded for the Bureau's information a cop~ of ~-:=-==j\na letter :from Colonel C. D. GASSER, USAF, AMC Engineering Field\nOfficer, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, to Mr. G. J. RATHMAN, Security\nDivision, U. s. Atomic Energy Commission, Oak Ridge. This letter\nis self explanatory and reveals that the photographs forwarded\nwith referenced letter are the result of accident or purposeful\nhoax and are not actually photographs of a \"f l:.:1t:1 saucer\".\nI\nColonel GASSER personally advisec1: that whi l e the ·photographs\nare not real, his statements m£ '1<' conc'3r.1i.ng the ext otence of\n:f'l.y1ng saucers and the opinions '}Y.p:rtc l ~ad by h1L1 nevertheless\nstand as previously stated.\n~~.._ \\\n' CCMcS: jjc\n65-11\n\\ ENCLOSURE ATTAOHBID\n\"\\\nEnclosure\n~\n­\n~ ' I\nJ:~,\\t\n7FEB 251949 ~ i¥"
  },
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   "n": 110,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p110.jpg",
   "text": "•\n••\nC t"
  },
  {
   "n": 111,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p111.jpg",
   "text": "- -\n•\n.,"
  },
  {
   "n": 112,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p112.jpg",
   "text": "WJRE<JL8/cro/.1k\nNEPA Project, P. o. Box E\nC\nOak Ridge, Tennessee\n10Febru.8.171949\n0\np\ny\nM:r. G. J. Rathman\nChief', Investigation Section\nSecurity Division\nu. S. Atomic Energy Caamission\nP. O. Box E\nOak Ridge, Temeesee\nDear Mr. Rathman\nThie is in response to your letter dated 16 December 1948,\nsubject \"Photographs\", with inolosures, addressed to Major\nD. J. Grant at this site, oonoerning photographs taken during\nthe month of July 1947 by Mr. William Presley ot 218 Illinois\nAvenue, Oak Ridge, Tennessee, of an unidentified object that\nappeared to be f'lying c:JVer Oak Ridge.\nSince receipt by Major Grant of the abc:JVe material, this ofi'ice\nhas taken steps to secure an evaluation of same by the Air Force\nof':f'ice of the Chief, Technical Intelligence Division, Intelli­\ngence Department, Air Materiel Cammand, at Wright-Patterson Air\nForce Base, Dayton, Ohio. As a result, the following informa­\ntion bas been revealed:\n\"When the negative, containing the sphere, is examined\nby strong incident light, it is noted that the emulsion\nis raised at that point above the normal level of the\nremaining emulsion. This indicates that either a drop\nof' warm.water or a drop of' developer struck the film at\nthis point and rolled down this negative and the succeed­\ning negative.\n\"To further substantiate this, it will be noted that when\nthe two (2) negatives are placed side by side with the\neaaes of the film aligned, the so-called \"trail\" is con­\ntinuous, that is the two sections :match, indicating the\ndrop rolled on f'ral1 one negative to the next.\n\"Sill :further proot is shown on the fogged edge of the\nnegative containing only the trail. This is proven by\nthe fact that the trail extends beyond the normal format\nC\n0\np\ny"
  },
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   "n": 113,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p113.jpg",
   "text": "C\n0\np\ny\nLtr. to Mr. G. J. Rathman, Chief, Investigation Section, u. s.\nAEC, dated 10 February 1949, Re Photographs\nof the negative. In other words, there is a trail of\nthat section of the negative which was not exposed in\nthe camera. Thie effect shows up in one negative and\nnot in the other because the negative in question is\nfogged; therefore, this irregularity was developed.\n\"Sti11 f'Urther proof of these defects lies in t.he number\nof unevenly developed sections of the negative.\"\nIn view of the above, it is reoam:nended that this entire matter\nbe declassif'ied and that Mr. Presley be advised of the nature o£\nthe images, if and when the negatives are returned to h1m by your\noffice.\nFor your information, this ottioe is taking the liberty of :turnish­\n1ng a copy o£ this ~ommnieation to Mr. c. c. Mcswain, Special\nAgent, F.BI, because of official interest eTidenced by his office\n1n the matter.\nYour cooperation 1n furnishing photographs and negatives, together\nWith information contained in your letter o£ 16 December 1948 to\nMajor Grant, is sincerely appreciated.\nVecy truly yours,\nC. D. GASSER\nColonel, US.AF\nAm EngineerinsField Officer\n3 Incle.\n2 Negatives\nl Photostat\ncc - Mr. C. C. McSwain\nC\n0 p\ny"
  },
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   "n": 114,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p114.jpg",
   "text": "Date l/';.'J/49\nConsigned to :SAC' HOUSTOr\nL-26\noice of Contents from\nBUREAU OF INVESTIGATIO\nSHINGTON, D. C.\nCase References\ni,'1YIN G DIS CS\nLONHIE ED ·;ARD NOACK , Complainant\nList of Contents\n,\n---\nMr.\nMr.\nmm Movie :--·1m,\nMr .\nparts of supposed flying disc .\nMr .\nCOMMuNICAl ION\n~CTION\nMr .\nMAILED 16\nFEB 8- 1949\nP.M.\n1\nREGISTERED UAIL\n* RD£RAl BUlliAU OF IN\\lf.STIGATION\nu. s. OEPAIITM&NT Of JUSTICE\n3\nSPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS:\nMai 1 Room, place date of shi pment and rei ~[ n~m~\ndate of shipment and ·JJ.iti 1 this invoice; then return it to persou whose name\nright.\nArter this checked name has been initialled, invoice should be plac ed\nHarbo, 7641\nConrad, 7142\nDowning, 6228 IB __\nSizoo, 7601\nBaughman, 7121 i<'\nI\ne r ; Shipping Room, show\nis checked in column at\nin adm,1nistrative file .\n,--\n-/\n/"
  },
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   "n": 115,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p115.jpg",
   "text": "~\n-\n_.,-U<DARD PORM NO. 64\n•\n•\n·Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nJanu~ry 31, 1949\npIRECTOR, FBI\nTO\nDATE:\nFROM\n:SllC, .S,Ji ANTONIO\nSUBJECTlROTECTION OF VIT.i'..L IH3T• .LLiSIONS\nBURE..'.U FILE # 65- 58300\n~\n_ii,!;\n~ ij77\n~1.t recent ~feekly Intelli.::;ence Conferenceri of G-2, OIU, OSI~ cmd F .~ .I., Jr,-­\nin the Fourth :,rmy .\\rec., Oi'ficers of C- 2, Fou::::-th ,\\rmy hc:.ve dir.:cu::ised the\nJJ.::.tter o,t 11Unidentified :.ircrc.ft11\no r\n11Unidentificd Aeric.l Phonomeno.11 othe!'\\1ise\n:_::nown a~ 11p13,?o _piscs11 , ~'Flyinf; S~.u~ rsrt., ~c.i:,ct \"D~l~s of Fil·e\n11 :\n.'JJ'?:s. _!'~~t-~~~\n_i_s__c_o_n_s_3:qe_::::~a_. _o:p__s_e_c_~_~t_ _oy )A.@1:¼~0:C_e__0_1_f_i_e:e:1:s. _0_1~ _b_o_t_l!_ _t_~e. h.r:.-:: _.:-.p._c_ _th~\nLir Forces.\nIt is ;.ell !:no;-m tlu-.t t~1ere hc:ve been during the p2.st tno ~'c.:-.1·s r e)orts from\ntho vo.rious p~rts of the country of the sit;hting of unicient.ificd 2.ericl\nobjects which ht1ve been cc.llc,d in nc,-is::n-.pGl' po.rl.:.nce 11flying discs\" and\n1tfly.i.ng sc.ucers11 •\nThe fil•st such sightings T:crc re:)ortcd from .SwedGn, ~nd\nit wo.s thought thc:.t the objects, the nf'ture of nllich v12s unknonn, r.1ight hr.vo\norit,inded in :.cussic..\nIn Julr 1948 rn unidentified aircrr.ft r1c.s\n11seen11 by an Zc.stGrn :.irlines\nPilot c.nd Co-Pilot £1.nd onG or rnore p2:;scngcrs of the E2.stE:..rn ,.irlincs Plane\nover Eontgomery, ~·,1.:-.bama..\nThis c.ircr2..ft uc.s rG.JOrtcd to be of c.n uncon­\nvcntionel t:;rpG without uin~s 0.nd resenbled gcnc;;;:c.lly n 11 rockct. ship 11 of the\ntJr1)c depicted in comic stri~s. It •:;~i: ri:;::iorted to he.VG had nindons; to\nhr:vE. been 1.:-..rgcr th,.n the :3r.stern :.irlines pl2ne, r...nd to hc..vc bc;en tr.:-..veling\nc.t c.n cstim.:-.ted speGd of 2700 nilc;s .:n hour . It ...'.:)P~['.red out of r. thunder-\n~\nhec.d ahce.d of the :;:,.stern :~irlincs plcnc rnd iJ:unedic.tcl!· disc.:)per.rGd in c.nothc~\ncloud no.rrowly missing ~- collision n ith the 3t.stcrn ;·,irlines :)l2nc .\nNo\n~\nsound or c.ir di:,turb.:-.nce ,:cs noted in connection 11ith this .:-.pp-.:c.rrnce.\n0 l\nDurins the ,_)~. st t,,o months va.rious sightings of unc~c.;1.:-.incd phcnomcnn hc.ve\n~\nbcc;n :rc}ortod in thG vicinit;;: of the : . . E. C. Inst..\".llc..tion .:-.t Los .~1.:-mos,\nIkn Loxico, uh-::rc these p:1enom.:rn:. no,, c._>pcCT to ··be concentr.:-.t<c.d.\nDuring\nDece.mbe:r 19L:S • n tho 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th, 11th, 13, ll~th, 20th end 28th\nsightings of uncxpkined :)henomcnc. 1'1erc ;,1c.dc ncr.r Los :,lc'.'.Il\\os by Spccitl\n.\".6cmts of the Office of Specitl Investi.6:::tion; ,.irline Pilots; Eilit2.ry\n:Cilots , Los I.le.mos 3ecurity Ins.)Gctors, c.nd )rivl'.tc citizens .\nOn\nJrnu\"-ry 6, 1949, nnothcr si:ulc.r objGct ~~['..S sir:,hted in the St'.lns:: r.1~c2. .\nDr. LINCOLl! L.. P .. z, c. lfotcorologist • f some note, h.:-.s bcc;n gcnerc.ll;r in\nchc.rg6 of the • bservc.tions ncr.r Los ..1.:-Jnos, r.tt€lil)ting to l Gr.rn chr.rr.ctGr ­\nistics of the unex:_)lr.ined ?h<::nor.,cnr..\nU:,:> to this tiiae little concrete inform::.tion h.:-s becm obk.incd.\na,, JZ,J :md\nRECORDED - 13~6_.£;:__ _\n~s:.- 100-7545\nF\nB\nI\ncc: El Pc.so -(2J\"\nLittle Rock (2)\n43 MAR 16 1949__\nDc.llc..s (2) \"\nO!:L:.hor.\\e. City (2)\nHouston (2)\n~\nJ"
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   "n": 116,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p116.jpg",
   "text": "•\nDIRECTOR, FBI\nl /31/49\nTh-::rc h2.ve been d<'-:' t ime sightings 1',tich .:-sc tent~.tivel~' considei.'Cd to possibl y\nrescr.1ble the cxh:cust of some type of jct .)r opell0d object .\n:Tight- t i me:, si ehtings\nh<'.VC tc.ken the f orm of lights usuc.lly described D.S brillic.nt grCE.n, sLi.il:i.r\nto r. t;rGen t r clfic signc.l or br een neon light .\nSome repor t s indicc.ted thr.t the\nli[,ht begc.n c.nd ended ;1i th c. red or ormgc f lc:sh .\nOther rqort ::: h.:-.ve given t he\ncolor l'.S red, Tihi te , blu- \\:l1itG, and yelloni sh L;r Gen.\nTr.:-iling l:1•6hts soi,10­\nt:L:es observGd l\".r c nc.i d to be re.ct..\nThe s:,ectrum c.n.:.lirnis of one l i i;ht in.di c.:-.tcs\nthc.t i t i.12.~r be ;:_ copper co,,)ound of the type l:no1:n to be uned in rocket\nCX;_Jeri,:ients c.nd T1hich co .~)lctely disintegr c.tes U)On cx)losi on, lc:-vine n•\nde'.n·i s .\nI t is noted tl1::c :10 de'ur in h-::-.s ever been Lnmm to be l oc:.tcd c.nyi,hero\nresul t ing f rom the une:x;_)lcined )henomcno..\nRecent observ.:-.tions hc-.ve :1..1dic.:-.tcd th2.t the unidE.ntified ::,l1enorJcn2. tr.::vel D.t\n.:-. r.:.te of spGed c.st.L-:i..:s.ted 2.t .:. ninii,rnr.1 of throe uilGs .)€1' second encl c. nnximum\nof t1'1E.lve i.1iles per second, or c. m~c:-.n cnlculr.ted speed of scvGn ~d on0-hc.lf\n:.1ilE-s a sccond, or 27, 000 r.1iles en hour.\nThei r rc.)ortGd course indi cc.tcs th.:.t\nthey trt.vel on Qil Ee.st - ~·:est linG ·.iith _}robt.bilit~, th:.t thc~r C . .)pl'oc.ch f r om\nthe Northern ~u.:.dr c.nt , \".'lhich 1:oLu.d be the l e.st str.t_;e of the L,l'cat cii\"cle route\nif thG:' ori.::;in2.ted in Rui:;si ~.\n:.11en observed they s;..e:.1 to be in lcvc;l flii:;ht\n.:.t ;:. l:.ci6ht of six to ten 11iles l\".nd tbus trc:.velin[, on ~-- t .n,sont to the ear th I s\nsurfr.cc .\nThe:' occ.:-siontll:- di:) .:-.t the. end of the ;,c.th r,nd on t•;o occ.:-sions\n:::. definite vGrticc.l ch2n.'.;e in _)t.th ,:.:-.8 indic.::.ted.\nThese l)honor.1cnc. hcve not\nbeen l:nmm to hc·vE- been si.:;htGd, hm:cver, c..t c..ny intGrmc.dit.tc po:i.nt bet1;ecn\n::-mssi,. l\"nd Los ;,ltJ,1os, 1Jut only ::·.t the c.nd of the flisht tour.rd the ;:.pp.-.rent\nrrtc..rget11, n2.1:1ely, Loi:; ..le.mos.\nIn every cc.sG but onG the si12.pc of thc objc.cts hes been r epo1·ted c.s r ound\nii1 2. point of light T1itll 2. definite <'-l'Gt. to the Ji[)1t I s source;.\nOne l~c,?ort\ngi ves .:-. d::.c.moncl she.pc: .:-.nother indicc.tc,; th-.:- t trc.iling lit;hts ,.rG elon._,c.ted.\nT!1c sizE. i s uau:-.11:r co, !_).:-.red to one- fourth thG cl.i.'.'.;.1ctc;r of the full :noon, .:-nd\nt:1oy ;1;-ve t.lso been coi.1pc.rcd in sizG to 2. br.s:~ctbr.ll 11i th tre.ili11.:.; li0hts thG\nsize of 2. 02.scb, .11.\nOn no occ~.sion h:--.s sounc: been i\".ssocii\"'.ted dircctl:· ·.1ith the phonor,1on2., but\nune:x:_)l .:.ined sounds }12.ve been :.'e)orted f roi'a Los :.1-:-Jnos.\nOn t·.io occ-.sions\nrei-:>ol\"ts t.::-.vc. bGen rccGived of th<:: si.:,hting of multiple uni ts.\nSome nine sci entifi c re2.sons c.rG s t::tcd to GY..ist l:hi ch indic.:-.ted th.:'.t tho\n:phcmomenc:. observed .::.r G not due to rnet Gori tes .\nThG onl:- concl usi ons rGc.chcd\nt hus fr.r r.re th2.t the:· .:-.re either hi therte. unobse1'vod n:-.tut'c.l phGnorncn::-. or\nthc.t they r.re n12.n m::.dc,.\n;io scientific ex)crii.wnts c.r c i~nm:n to exist in this\ncountry l1hich could give ri:e to such phenomen.:-..\n- 2 ­"
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   "n": 117,
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   "text": "•\n•\n•\n.,.\nDIP..ZCTOR, FBI\n1/31/49\n:;r:·s. L'illELL;.E G~;yHNE ::sr..cH:J:T· E's the subj Gct of c. letter fror.1 the :,tlmtc?. office\nto the :Surec.u d.:::ted ,·,u[_;ust 10, 1948, entitled,\n11LiDELL.iS a· YllNE E&CHiJ~T;\nIl-1FORE.~:i'ION CONC:S}UHi;G. \"\n.She hr.s 1nritt6n Ilk\"l1Y l etters to Jiilit2.ry ;,uthoriti0s concerning her t heories\nr e.:;c.rding .~tomic Energy.\ns:!c, h. ·'-· t,cn,..,rdly been considered unrelic.bl G and\n) OSsibly ;:wntally unbal c>ncod.\nShe, hm·:cvcr, has submittod to Uilitc1ry\n2.uthoritics t he only theory thus f;:,.1• '.mo~·m that hr.s r..n? credi bi lit? r..t c.11,\nm:.ncly, tht.t the. li6hts .:.re ..12nifcstc.tions of cosnic r.:.ys v!hich c:.rc directed\nto•,;ard c. specific }Oint.\nShe further theoriz€s thE.t such r.:.ys r.1.r.y intGrfe.rc\n'.iith the i gnition of 1:1otors c.nd mc.;;r ,2.ccount for vo.rious uncx}lc.incd air ere.shes.\nTho wove is subr.u.tted for the confidcmtir.l info:rm.etion of the Bu:ce..:,u 211d\noffices to ::rhich co) ies of t::i s letter ere directed so th.::-.t thGse offices Dt.y\ncv.3.ulc.:tc ~y such re.Jorts t he:' r.':t::;/ ht.Ve reccivod o:;..~ r.1t.:· receive 1n t he future. .\nI '.:. is not0d tl10.t the Fourti1· ;_rr,1y hc.1., the res:1onsibilit;r of ~,:cotc;ctinr, vitc.l\ninst2;llr.tions r.t Los ..1:-.mo.s, Ne,: L::xico, s.,ndic. n_..se, Nc:i i.:cxico, o.nd c-.--~\nH,:>Dc. , Texas.\n;'..ny infor;.1c).tion dovGlopcd ::,l1ould be CX[>Cditiousl:- trc.nsrilitted to\nG-2, Fourth ;.:::;-y.\nr-:-, ~-.,, further noted that G- 2 2.nd O.S. I. a.re .::.cti voly on.:_;E.[;C.d in inve.stig,:;_ting\nt his iiu:.tter.\nNo ii\"1v6stis:.tion is :icint conducted 'Jy this office.\n- 3 ­"
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   "n": 118,
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   "text": "- ffAN?\"R\"-~~- 64\n-.,\n,\n,,\n•\n\\;\n~ Office\n. ,\nMemorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\nfV¼ ·:o ,\n11r. Ladd ~\nDATE: March 14, 1949\nFROM\nMr. Fletche:r:~\n:::m:n__\nllr. Glavln\nMr, !..ad~:~-_-_-_­\n..... Nlchola__\nSUBJ ECT:\nwr. Rosen__\nFLYING DISCS\n..... Tracy__\nMr. Egan:,,.,,....-­\n::=~\n::'. r.:1ngton_\nPURPOSE\nMr. Quinn Te.a_\nTele. Rooa__\nMr. Nease__\nIlles llolltlis__\nIlles O&:ncly__\nThe approval of the Executives Conference is requested for the\nattached SAC letter furnishing to the field the type of infonnation\ndesired by the Intelligence Division of the Air Force in connection with\nthe captioned matter.\n,.\nBACKGROUND\nYou will recall that by Bureau Bulletin #57, Series 1947, dated\nOctober 1, 1947, the field was advised that effective as of that date the\nBureau had discontinued its investigative activities in connection with\nflying discs .\nThe field was advised that all future reports concerni ng\nthis matter received in the field should be referred to the Air Forces.\nI\nColonel c. D. Gasser, Resident Engineer, Air Materiel Command,\nNuclear Energy for the Propulsion of Aircraft Research, Oak Ridge,\nTennessee, has recently and confidentially advised the Bureau that\nflying discs are believed by the Air Force to be man-made missiles\nrather than some natural phenomenon and that as much as four years ago\nit was learned that some type of flying discs were being experimented\nupon by the Russians. It was further detennined f r om Colonel Gasser that\nmost all of the flying discs seen by persons in the United States approached\nthis country from a northerly direction ana returned in the same direction,\nindicating the strong possibility that they are coming from Russia.\nThe Department of the Air Force has furnished to the Bureau a\n' sufficient number of copies of a memorandum dated ~b!'l,)aty 15, 1919 captioned\n\"Unconventional Aircraft\" which can be furnished to our field offices.\nSTATUS\n1~_...l[.-5tfz~ - I\nRECORDED - 76\nF\nAt the present time this Bureau is conduct3\"1'1ARo2fii.,J:MVt:,igation of\ninfonnation r eceived in the field relating to the caption-l~Mtter.ef }·..,vl\nRECOMMENDATION\n, _\n~-r.,.,\n- d\nrt is reccmmended that the attached SAC letter and enclosure be\nforwarded to the field to advise them of the type of questions to be asked\nof persons who voluntarily submit information relative to 11flying discs. 11\nAlthough no active investigation will be conducted by the Bureau, it is\niJ\nbelieved that the captioned matter is of sufficient importance t o the\ninternal security-of the country that our field offices should secure as\nmuch information as possible from compai.nants in order to assist the\nDepart'm~t,of'l\n1 •~ Ai Ferce.\n✓\n~\nEHM :E'HW\nHf I{ \\)\n,\n­\nAttachment"
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   "text": "::,g\n,......,\n<-.o\n( 0 ....\n0::,\n.. .\n:IJ/J.~/i, :J I\nJ.CJ:/t} '\nII\nI 8 J\nf,, Hd cs v r YcJV\nU:J/\\13J3tJ\n~\n!:l:,\n•.:­\n\"-....,\n,,\nll1\n~\n--l:;.\nt.:;:\nc-:,\nll~\n~·\n!:!! 3:\n~\n~ ~\n....,_\nC.\n')!::\nV,\nI :n '7\n0\\\n....\n·- ,...., ~\n;g\n•...:.\n~\nt.c,"
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   "n": 120,
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   "text": ",...-ANDARI> •ORM NO, 64\n•\n•~\ni:e Memorandum • UNITED STATES• GOVERNMENT\nTO\nDIRECTOR, FBI\nDATE: March 22, 1949\nFROM\nSAC, SAN ANTONIO\nSU:BJ ECT:\nPTIOTECTION OF VITJ,.L INSTALLATIONS\nBUREAU FILE 65-58300\nc..)\nI I\nRe San Antonio letter t o the Director dated January 31, 1949, which outlined\ndiscussion had at recent nec!:ly Intelligence Conferences of G-2, ONI, OSI and\nFBI in the Fourth :.my Area concerning 11Unidentifi ed Aircraft\" or 11Unidentified\nAreial Phenomena\" •therwise kno\\'m as 11flying di scs11 ,\n11Flying saucers\" and 11balls\nof fire\". It is repeated that this matter is considered secret by Intelligence\nOfficers of both the Anny and the Air Force.\nG-2, 4th Anny, has non advised that the above matter is now termed 11Unconven­\ntional Aircraft\" and investigations concerning such matters have been given\nthe name 11Project Grudge\" .\nG-2, 4th Anny, advised on Febr uary 16, 1949, a conference was held at Los\n,'i.].amos, Nen Mexico, to consider the t,o-called 11Green fire ball phenomena\"\n11hich began about December 5, 1948.\nI t was brought out this question has been\nclassified. \"secret\" and that investigation is now the primary responsibility\nof the U.S •. Air Force, Air Eateriel Comm.and, T- 2 .\nDr. LilTCOLM Lf~ PAZ of the University of New Mexico, discussed one siting which\nhe himself had made which was termed the \"Starvation peak incident11 and des­\ncribed the following characteristics which indicated that the phenomenon\ncould not be classified as a normal meteorite fall.\nl .\nThere was an initial bright light (no period of intensity increase)\nand constant intensity during the duration of the phenomenon.\nI\n2 .\nYellm1 green color about 5200 Angstroms .\n3 . Essentially horizontal path.\n4. Trajectory traversed at constant angular velocity.\n5. Duration about tY:o seconds.\n£,.\nNo accompanying noise.\n~E3rz:/\nRECOUII •ti\n..,\n-\n! I\nJEJ:md\n2 cc: El Pas• (100-4562)\n1!.-- /Jpr. t/- 17'-1?\nln\nI\nQ\n2 cc: Dallas\n11\n11\nHouston\n11\n11\nLittle Rock\n11\n11\nOklahoma City\n-\nl. ­"
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   "n": 121,
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   "text": "..\n'\n•\nDIRECTOR, FBI\nMarch 22, 1949\nIt ,,as br ought out that since December 5, 1948 t;.hor e he.ve been more t han\nten incidents analagous to the 11gr een fireball\" above described and some\nt,•enty other s Y1i th ruiner devic.tions from the above.\nIt is tlso pointed out\nthe.t the only sitings 1·1hioh he.d occurred see.med to have been confined to the\nLos ~lrunos, Las Vegas,. ru1d ~·iest Texas triapgle ,\nG-2 also c.dvised thct as of Novomber 1 , 1948, in.t'ornw,tion had bc.en r eceived\nf r om higher lfilitary authorities tm-.t tho Air Force hnd advised that such\nsitings occur periodical~ and that anot her per iod of siti ngs was then\nimminent .\nFurther, on Fcbru~.ry 14, 1949, higher 1Iilitary authorities ndvised\nthat it was believed that ult.iJ11ately it would be found that the phenomena\nin question have a natural explanation..\nIt is further noted thot c?.bout 7:30 p .,m. , 1!.'..rch 6, 19h9, what was at first\nthought to be a flar e was seen approximately onc- h<llf mile north of Killeen\nBase in the area of the Vital Instnllc.tion c.t Camp Hood, Toms, and a second\nflcro ;ms noticed £!.t 1 : 45 a .m. , J!arch 7, 1949, D..)pr oxinu:.tcly throe miles from\nKi llGcn Bo.sc. It hc.s since bocn concluded thc.t t hG flc.res seen near Killeen\nr.re prob.::.bly simile.r t o the phenomena pr aviously noted in the Los AL.\"lllos,\nSc.ndia Base Area although these ~re the first sitings of such phenomena near\nCemp Hood.\nThere apperu-s to be reason to believe th.:i.t the ~hove-mentioned phenomena may\nbe connectGd 11ith secret expt;;rimcmts being conducted by some U.s. Government\n...gency as it is believed thc.t the Unitod Stc.tos is fD.rther c.dvanccd in gui ded\nmissile. developmGnt thnn any foreign poner.\nAlthough the pr im.c.\".cy responsibility for investig~ting such matters is now\n,a.th the U.S . A. F. Air Iratcricl Canrnund, G-2, 4th Army i s.still inter ested\nin being advised of any further sitings of such phenomena Hhich might be\nobservod .\n- 2 ­"
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   "n": 122,
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   "text": ",, ..\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\n/\nFonnNo. 1.\nTHIS CASE ORIGINATED AT\n/\nHOUSTON\nREPORT MADE AT\nDATE WHEN r,tAD.lit\nPERIOD FOR\nWHICH MADE\nLOS ANGELES\n12/28 . 29; 1/7,$\n3/30/49\nTITLE ..t'LYING DISC~\n1011~\"IE EDWA..W1\nCK, com9lainant;\nHouston, Texas,\necember 27, 1948\nSYN OPSIS OF FACTS:\nObject described by complainant as possible flying disc\ndetermined to be a model tow target or kite which had\nbeen ab3ndoned after unsuccessful tests.\nPortions of\ntarget positively identif'ied by HENRY T. RICE, L.A.\nmanufacturer and erstwhile financial backer as being\npart of the model target or kite.\nRUC\nREFEREhCE :\nTeletype f r om Houston to Director dated 12/28/!8.\nTeletype from Los Angeles to Lirector dated 12/2u/48.\nTeletype f r om Los Angel es to Virector dated 12/29/48.\nDETAILS:\nThis investigation is predicated upon the receipt of referenced\nteletype from the Houston Office advising that LONNIE EIJ?ARD NOACK had located\nan object in the desert near Helendale, California, r esembling a flying disc.\nThis object , described as a flying disc, had been l ocated by NOACK, R. C.\nPERSON and :t.r. and l rs . NATHAN SMITH of Soutli Pasadena, Califori1ia, approxi­\nmately one hundred and fifty miles northeast of Pasadena or about twenty\n'7\nmiles from Lone Pine, CaliJ.'ornia.\nSpecial Agent ElJi!ARD OLSEN detemined that R. C. PERSON, Vasco\ntanufacturing Company, was traveling in Arizona and not available for interview.\nAPPROVED AN\nP£CIA.LAGENT\nDO NOT WRITE IN THESE\" SPA CES\nFO\"WARDED:\nIH C H.AftG-K\n3\nI\n1-\n- ----~\n' --=-,~~~~~~--=-11BOAOm-9\nCOPIES OF\" THIS REPORT\nDure au\nb u l:_'8\n·.tlt1rrw.i .d\n2 - Houston\n~ 11•€! I\nJ\n..-----lffl:lt,tfh-:,y-­\n1 - IFO #2, Fort 1:acArth~~\n2 - Los Angel es\nCOPJ ,,S D-r;-\n1\n9\n27 v\nFILE NO. 105-445\nREPORT MADE BY\n.. Wh.T!.iA? ~ROVINSE\nDPZ\nCHARACTER OF CASE\nINTERNAL SECURITY M"
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   "n": 123,
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   "text": ",,.\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nf'ormNo.1\nTHIS CASE ORIGINATED AT\nFILE NO.\n1. U•.'i'ON\n$\nREPORT MADE AT\nDATE WHEN MAD£\nPERIOD FOR\nREPORT MADE BY\nW HICH MADIE\nl, J. ~TUELES\nTITI..S\nCHARACTER OF CASE\n.iLYii'.G !DISCS;\nLONlrrE EU:ARD NOliCK, com,plai nant;\nHouston, Texas, December 27, 19L8\nSYNOPSIS OF FACTS:\nObject described by complainant o.s possiblo flying disc\ndetel'Jlmed to be a n:.o<iel. tow target or kite lihich had\nbeen abandoned after unsuccessful. tests. .Portions o.f\ntarget positivel y identified by HENRY T. RICE, L•.••\nroanu:.racturer. and erstwhile finru1.cie.l backer as bi..ing\n-part or the ruodel tareet or ldte.\nRUC\nr~mm::\nTeletype from Uouston to ~iroctor dated l r/20/48.\nTeletYPQ from :Los Angeles to Director dat~d 12/28/48.\nTeletype from Los Angeles to Director dated 12/29/48.\nDETAitss\nThis inveatigation is predicated upon the receipt o£ referenced\nlielctype from the Houston Office advisine that LO:rtNm EJJ ARD NOACK had located\nan object in the desert near ~elendale, California, resmcbling a flying disc.\nThis object, described as a flying disc.:, had been located by t10ACK, R. c.\nffiRSOU a.,d la°• and l!rs. NATHAN S'&!I'1'li of South Pasadena., California., approxi.­\nma.tel.y one hunared and fifty :miles northeast of Pasadena or about twenty\nmiles ~om tone Pine, California.\nSpecial Agent JW, ARD OLSElf detet'1llined that R. C. PERSOU, Vasco\n,anufacturing Company, nas traveling in Arizona and not available £or interview.\nAPPROVED ANO\nSPCCIAL AG£NT\nFO!tWAROEO:\n00 NOT WRITE IN THE9E SPACES\nIH CHARM\nCOPIES OF THIS REPORT\nlJ.1Nau\n2 - 11ouston\nl - IFO #2, Fort MacArthur\n2 - Los Angeles\n/i"
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   "n": 124,
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   "text": "- --\n•\n,\n.. .•\nL. A. 105-b45\n1 r . N. SMITH, S1.'ITH MANUFACTURING COMPANY, 105 Pasadena Avenue,\nSouth Pasadena, California, who was with NOACK at the time the object was\ndiscovered, advised Special Agent EDiiARD OLSEN on December 28, 19L8, that\nhe was present at the time the object was located on his, SLITH 1s, landing\nfield near Helendale, California.\nS! ITH advised that they had taken some\npieces off the object and that subsequently, upon returning to Los Angeles,\nhe had learned that the object was actually a model kite or tow target which\n~UT\n/ '/\nhad been built by th~/'~Sm1 AND RICE l!ANL'F.lCTURING COMPANY of Los Angeles.\nr\nMr. S1ITH stated that he had talked to both OHLSON and RICE and that they\nhad admitted to him having experimented with the object over his, S1iITH' s,\nairfield.\nJ.:r . S}..ITH made available three of the parts of the target Tihich\nhe had secured while at the airfield.\nThe information furnis~ed by Mr. SY.ITH w;stmified by Special\nAgent EJJW'ARD OLSEN in an interview with llr. HENRY\n. . CE, OHLSot' AND RICE\nl:A!'lJ'F.i'.CTUlING COMPANY, 3340 Emery Street, Los Angeles. The parts made\navailable by ~ r . SI:ITH were exhibited to l r. RICE, and he advised that\nthe model tow target or kite had been taken to the airfield for flight\ntests by himself and CIAUDE LER~LFORD, 5454 Chesley Avenue, Los\nAngeles 43, California.\nLr. P..ICE -s~ed that iOLFORD is the inventor\nof the object and OHLSON A?lD RICE had originally agreed to finance him\nto develop the tow target or Kite as a toy.\nl[r. RICE explained that\nthey were primarily interested in developing the contra?tion as a toy\nkite to be sold in a much smal ler model; hmvever, the inventor, against\nt1eir -wishes, had developed a much larger model which he had hoped to\nsell as a tow target to be used behind airplanes .\nA~ . RICE stated that\nsince he had gone that far they felt that they should give the project\na test and ther eupon they took it out to the desert as a precautionary\nmeasure. ?r. RICE stated that the flight test was a failure; the model\ncrashed soon after it was airborne and was thereafter abandoned on tte\nfield.\nIn the absence of her husband, l rs. CLAUDZ LEROY '\":OLFORD,\nSL.51.i Chesley Avenue, was interviewed and eY.hibited the three parts\nof the kite made available by l.'.r, SMITH.\nShe readily identified the\nthree items as part of a kite her husband had built for the 2ICE\n!iANUFACTlJliirG COt..PANY.\nShe advised that she also accompanied her\nhusband to the desert at the time the tests were made,\nShe explained\nthat the kite had crashed and that the manuficturing company did not\nwant to put any more cash in it so it was abandoned on the desert.\nThe ttree parts of the kite were returned to ~!ATHA.fl: SUITH on\nJanuary 7, 1949 , The Sub-District Office, I . G. (USAF), 1206 Santee\nStreet, Terminal Annex, Los Angeles, California, was aaprised of the\ninformation contaimd herein inurediately upon its receipt .\nREFERRED UPON CO!PLETION TO l'HE OFFICE OF ORIGIN\n2."
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   "n": 125,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p125.jpg",
   "text": "4 nit•ll !Haks i!l,purtm,nt of !l..\"'i>ER~O'\n~.eh.era! iBur.eau nf lnu.estigatinn\nDila.alJl~gt.nn ZS, ii. Qr.\nIN REPLY, PLEASE REFER TO\nSeries\nFILE No.----­\nMarc~\nMEMO FOR MR. HOOVER\nCALLAHAN\nHINCE\nNANNA\nTOLSON\nCALLAN\nJONES, M.A.\nNAUGHTEN\nCLEGG\nCARLSON\nKEAY\nNEASE\nCONNELLEY\nCARTWRIGHT\nLAUGHLIN\nPARSONS\nGLAVIN\nCONRAD\nLEONARD\nPENNINGTON\nHARBO\nDOWNING\nLONG\nRENNEBERGER\nLADD\nEDWARDS, H. L.\nMcCABE, E. J.\nROGERS\nNICHOLS\nEGAN\nMcCABE, N. H.\nSIZOO\nROSEN\nFEENEY\nMcGUIRE\nTAMM, Q.\nTRACY\nFLETCHER, H. B.\nMcINTIRE\nWAIKART\nBAUMGARDNER\nGURNEA\nMOBLEY\nWALL\nBOSWELL\nMOHR\nWHITSON\nDECLAS/~tf-BY S{Jf{~rr/~\nOlt\n_,L\nK;\n7\nFLYING DISCS\nYour attention is directed to Bureau Bulletin #57, Series 1947, dated\nOctober 1, 1947, relating to the discontinuance of investigation by this Bureau in\nmatters concerning flying discs.\nFor your confidential information, a reliable and confidential source\nhas advised the Bureau that flying discs are believed to be man-made missiles rather\nthan natural phenomenon. It has also been determined that for approximately the\npast four years the USSR has been engaged in experimentation on an unknown type\nof flying disc.\n7\n-­\nThe Department of the Air Force has furnished to the Bureau the attached\nmemorandum classified \"restricted\" dated February 15, 1949, entitled \"Unconventional\nAircraft, \"\nThis memorandum is being fUrnished to you in order that all agents\nassigned to your office can be informed of the type of information desired by the\nAir Force in this matter.\nAs set forth in Bureau Bulletin #57, referred to above, no investigation\nshould be conducted by your office relative to flying discs, however, the attached\nmemorandum should be referred to in securing data from persons who desire to\nvoluntarily furnish informati on to your office relating to flying discs,\nVery truly yours,\nJohn Edgar Hoover\nDirector\n, /. \"1 -s.::_: Cf ll -\n/\nEncl osure\nNOT RECORDlt) =111\n150 APP. 4 1949\n-. ........_ ---­"
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   "n": 126,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p126.jpg",
   "text": "--\nFBI SALT LAKE CITY\n4- 5- 49\n~!OR\nU R G E N T\n('.) FLYING DISCS .\nINFORMATION RECEIVED AT LOGAN, UTAH ELEVEN AM TODAY\nr\nTHAT AT NINE AM A GUARD AT THE AR~Y GENERAL SUPPLY DEPOT, OGDEM, UTAH,\nOBSERVED WHAT APPEARED TO BE AN EXPLOSION IN THE AIR ACCOMPANIED BY\nA FLASH OF LIGHT FOLLOWED BY THE FALLING OF SILVER COLORED OBJEC1 .\nTHIS WAS SEEN AT HIGH ALTITUDE WEST OF OGDEN NEAR THE TOWN OF TAYLOR,\nUTAH .\nABOUT THE SAME TIME LT . RON HATFIELD OF LOGAN, UTAH PD SAH TWO\nPUFFS OF SMOKE HIGH IN THE AIR WEST OF LOGAN FOLLOWED BY FALLING OF\nSILVER COLORED OBJECT.\nALSO AT ABOUT SAME TI ME UTAH HI GHl:JAY PATROLMAN\nL. N. JEPPSON AT MANTUA, UTAH, SAW A SILVER COLORED OBJECT HIGH UP\nAPPROACHING THE MOUNTAINS AT SARDINE CANYON BETWEEN LOGAN AND BRIGPAM\nCI TY, UTAH AND AS OBJECT NEARED THE MOUNTAIN IT APPEARED ~\nEXPLODE IN A\nFLASH OF FIRE .\nSEVERAL RESIDENTS AT TRENTON, UTAH, WHrtf IS WEST OF\n~\nLOGAN, HAVE REPORTED TO SO, LOGAN, SEEING \\JHAT APPEA-\nTO BE TI10 AERIAL\nEXPLOSIONS FOLLOWED BY FALLING OBJECT WEST OF TRENTON AT ABOUT NINE\nTWENTY AM TODAY .\nABOVE INFOR~•ATION IMMEDIATELY FURNISHED TO OSI,\nHI LL FIELD, UTAH . . ANY FURHIER PERTINENT DEVELOPt1ENTS WI LL BE FURNISHED\nBUREAU FOR INFORMATION .\nOSI PILL FIELD HAS .JUST NOW ADVISED\n--\nABOVE\nu\nPHEr•40MENA PROBAELY CAUSED BY Tt:O B TI<1ENTYIH NES FROM t:ENDOVER FIELD\nW~CJ:-ARE PRACTICE - BOMBING IN THE DESERT WEST OF\nLOG~N FRO¼ EK {i_rn/.LY / ~\n-\nHIGH ALTITUDES WHICH WOU~D CAUSE VAPOR TRAILS .\nOSI\nECKING\nAND\nWILL ADVISE THIS OFFICE OF RESULTS .\n\\~\n~~~~ •\n9 AP\n1 1849\n~~MA\\~~\nf H'lfl\\.\n~\n-1:.\nFURTHER\nj- rve:\nACK AND\n~~ s"
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   "n": 127,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p127.jpg",
   "text": "I\nRECEIV!D TELETYPE UNIT\nAPft 5 2 ,, PM •~9\nF.9;1. DEPT. OF JUSTICE"
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   "n": 128,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p128.jpg",
   "text": "A\n­\nI\n..,\n•\n•\n--\n'\n0-J,f ~\n~\n!~J\nOSI\nRE\"'-~\nr-,..\nHEADQUARTERS UNITED STATES AIR FORCE\nTO:\nROUTING SLIP\nu. s. GOVUNfll!NT PRIHTINC. o,Ftcl\nI. OFFICE A F C SL\nDATE\n~d_\nATTENTeNd /YlLJA.it.~ -Rm IE 107s\n~'l\n2. OFFICE\nDATE\nATTENTION\n3. OFFICE\nDATE\nATTENTION\nI\nFOR: FOLLOWING ACTION($) AS CHECKED\nCOORDINATION\nNOTE ANO RETURN\nINFORMATION\nNECESSARY ACTION\nRECOMMENDATION\nFILE\nSEE OR PHONE ME\nAPPROVAL\nSIGNATURE\nCOMMENT ~\nf-'\n~ ~\n/1...Lc.,.t...-....,\nz\n-\nI :>-a~ i,~\nt: ';&_~\nIv d,._\nF 13. £.\nFROM:\nra\nInff\nOFFICE 1-trOIK-CO\nROOM NO.\n~-E,2o3\nINDIVIDUAL\nk\nPHONE\n/\\fU/77) e -\n-\n~ /\n~\n71 0 C, 7\n- '><:::\nr\nAll' H Q l •'orm 12\nl&-W400r/\n10 Nov 47\n-"
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   "n": 129,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p129.jpg",
   "text": "•\n...\n,..._,_\n3;;u snr .:10 ·.t_ 3a ·s ·r,\nI 8 1\n3!J~N0/d ~J U,:.,J/J\n6/1, Hd fJT I IZYd~\nG3Af3;i3~"
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   "n": 130,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p130.jpg",
   "text": "•\nMr. Pennl,=-\n~i.~uil.:,.----=\nllr, Nease\nlllU Gandy\nMay 4, 1949\nRECORDED - 34\nTO:\nLegal Attache\nMexico City, D.F.\nFROlJ:\nDirector, FBI\nSUBJECT:\nFLYING DISCS\nReference is made to your letter dated April 5, 1949 captioned as above\nin wh;i.ch you request a copy of the Air Force memorandum mentioned in SAC Letter\n#38, Series 1949 dated March 25, 1949.\nIn response thereto there is enclosed herewith the pamphlet captioned,\nUUnconventional Aircraft•• issued by the Department of the Air Force under date of\n11r. ~1aofebruary- l~) 1949 to which refer~nce was made in the above-mentioned SAC Letter.\n:::fil:T~\n8\n:: ~~\nsure\nli1:1t,\n-· __\nllr. Rosen\nllr. '!'racy\n::: =...\nCC - Fo;reign Service ~s~ (detached)\nllr. Harbo-­\nllr. llobr,--=-=-_­"
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   "n": 131,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p131.jpg",
   "text": "-'\n,...\n• OFFICE OF TI-IE LEGAL ATTACHE\nEMBASSY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA\nMEXICO CITY\nDate:\nApril 5, 1949\nTo :\nDirector, FBI\nFrom:\nJohn H. Speakes , Legal Attache\nSubject : O FLYING DISCS\nReference is made to SAC Letter 1~38 , Series 194-9,\ndated I.Iarch 25, 1949, advisinr, that a copy of a memorand1.un\nfrom the Department of the Air Force , dated February 15,\n1949, and entitled \"Unconventional Aircraft ,\" as furnished\nto the Bureau, was being for,,1arded to this office in order\nthat all agents assigned to the !Iexico City Office might be\ninformed of the type of infornation desired by the Air Force\nin this matter .\nThis is to advise that the above- mentioned enclosure\nwas not received by this office and it is respectfully requested\nthat a copy of this memorandum be forwarded to Uexico City.\nJUS:ml\n.;."
  },
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   "n": 132,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p132.jpg",
   "text": "RECE.IVt.0\n.\\TOHIC ENERGY\nLIAISON SECTION\n)\n~PR 19 9 14 AM ,~~\nF. B. I.\nU.S. OE.PT. OF JUSTICE\n°)\n•\nH ..\n­\n•\n~\n'"
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   "n": 133,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p133.jpg",
   "text": "•\nb~D...RD FORM NO. 64\n•\n.\n•\n,.Ojfice Memorandum • UNITED .STATES GOVERNMENT\n(1),\nTO\nDIRECTOR, FBI\nDATE:\n4-22-49\n/\nFROM ~\nC, LITTIE ROOK\nSUBJECT:\nUNKNOm{ §.J.IBJECTS;\n1\n/ll WADE H-KllARRISON -\nINFORMANT\nv · FLYING DISCS\n-\nFoR\"? SMITH, ARKANSAS (4-16-49)\nWADE H. HARRISON, residence address Route 1, Box 29.3,\nFort Smith, Arkansas,. is employed as a Special Delivery messenger by\nthe Fort Smith Post Office Department.\nHARRISON stated that at 5:25 p.m., Saturday, April 16, 1949,\nwhile delivering special delivery mail in Fort Smith, he stopped his\nautomobile at a signal light located at the intersection of North\nEleventh street and Grand Avenue.\nHe glanced up at th? stop light and\nobserved a brilliant object moving in a southeastern direction. He\npresumed tb! object was approximately 2 miles high.\nHe got out of his\nautomobile and pointed up With the suggestion that other automobile\ndrivers, stopped for, the signal light, could see the object. He does\nnot know who an:, of the other people are or what they saw. He was\nobliged to move on after the light changed'and the drivers began honking\ntheir horns. He watched th3 object until it was obscured by the line\nof trees in that section. He estimated he watched it travel some\n.3 or 4 miles before he lost sight of it. He stated the weather was\nclear, visibility was good, and there were no clouds near the object.\nThe object made no noise perceptible to HARRISON.\nHowever, he commented\nthat be was stopped at an intersection where the traf fie was heavy and\nthere was considerable noise. He first thought possibly he bad seen\nscne type of a r eflector on an airplane, but c ould not locate or hear\na plane anywhere.\n✓\nHARRISON drove to the 1400 Block of North \"C\" Street, where\nhe observed an Army officer, wearing the insignia of a niajor or lieutenant\ncolonel, standing back of the officer's automobile. He stopped and\nasked the officer if he had observed the f'l.y:Lng object. The officer,\nname unknown to the informant, answered negati vely and then remarked,\n111 am glad other people are also reporting seeing flying objects.\"\nThe of ficer then r elated t hat the day previous, Friday, April 15, 1949,\nwhile the officer was traveling oat of Oklahana City t oward Fort Smith,\nhis wife observed a flying object in the sk;y very similar to that\ndescribed by HARRISON.\nThe officer stated h e saw the object too, but\nfurnished no more information.\nDOS:crc\n98-0\nEnc.\nRfCORDfQ -119\nAMSD\n~-118\nCO:PIES DESTROYED'·\nMA1 3 194~\n\\NDEXEO\n2 7 0\nNOV 18,1964­"
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   "n": 134,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p134.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n-... -·"
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   "n": 135,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p135.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nLET TO DIRECTOR\n4-22-49\nFLYING DISCS\nHARRISON described the object as appearing some 3 or 4\ninches in diameter from the distance he saw it. It was very bright\nand reflected a light in a manner similar to a mirror. He reported the\nincident to tM local press at Fort Smith and inquired if anyone had\nmade a similar report. He received a negative reply. In this connection,\nplease find attached an article from the front page of the Southwest-Times\nRecord newspaper published at Fort Smith, Arkansas, Sunday, April 17,\n1949.\nThe interview with HARRISON developed he is 52 years of age.\nHe has had considerable college training and attended the seminar:, at\nWestminister, Maryland 2½ years. He stated that his eyesight is very\ngood for a man of his age am that he has worn r eading glasses only\nfor the past few years. He was positive he had observed the object\nas related above.\nHe was unable of course to state just what the object\nwas or furnish any additional information concerning it. No information\nwas available at Fort Smith indicating the object bad fallen in that\nsection or that it was observed by others. The Little Rock Office iS\nmaking no further inquiries concerning the subject matter.\n)/\nThe offices of OSI and MID have been notified of the informa­\n~ tion set out above,\n-2­"
  },
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   "n": 136,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p136.jpg",
   "text": "..\n•\nSOUTH\\\\'\"EST - TIMES RBCORD\nFt_. Smith, Arkansas\nApril 17, 1949\nI\n• Local Man Reports Seeing Whai\\\nHe Believes Was \"Flying Disc\"\nWa~\nrr1son, Fort Smith post office employe, reported Sat­\nurday~ obse,ved what he believed was a \"flying disc.\"\nHarrison saw what he believed was a \"flyini:( disc\" as he was\ndriving east on Grand avenue at Eleventh street. He said the object\nwas small and was moving southeastward at a rapid rate of s;Z;peed.\nHe said the object resembled a tiny mirror.\n•\nThere were no other reports of \"flying disc&'' in the area\n•1\n1urday~\nI\nENCLOSURE"
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   "n": 137,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p137.jpg",
   "text": "•\nMr. Tobon /\nOFFICE. OF 'OtRECTOR\nMr. Clegg\n'\nF®ERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIOM\n~r. Glavi7\nUNITE0 STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ~\n~;::01a_L\nApril 20 , 1949 ~~::~--­\nMr. Gurne a ___\nMr. Barbo___\nThe attached was sent to the\nMr . Jones____\nMr. Mohr____\nDi r ector by 1.Yalte r 1Vi nchell .\nMr . Pennincton:.._\nTele. Room_\nMr. Nea ■ e ___\nMiu Holmes_\nAttachment\nmt\n111;l'JdJ;b!­\nI In,~g"
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   "n": 138,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p138.jpg",
   "text": "•\n,.,\nI •\n3011snr ...;o ·1d3 □ ·s ·r:\nl 8 ::i\nMv ..L:.l-a~·10 - 03/d:l.."
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   "n": 139,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p139.jpg",
   "text": "•\nRECORDED - 128\n)\ntf\n(f\nMr. Tolson\n:Z:: g~:~n-­\nllr. I.Add,--_-_­\nllr. Ntcnola\nllr, lloaen -­\n, Mr. Tracy-­\n..,._ £gan._-_-_ -_\nwr. aurn,a\nllr. HarbO -­\nMr. IIOhr.;:::-=-- _\nMr. PeMlngWn_\nllr. Quinn Tanm\nTele. !loom\n­\nllr. Nease-­\nlHa, Gandy\n•\nJ\nDato1\nay 21 1949\nTo:\nDirector or Special Investigations (I.O.)\nDepartment of tbs Air Force\nThe Pentagon\nashinat;on 25, D. C.\nFrom:\nJohn F.dgar Hoover, Director, Federal Bureau or Investigation\nll'LIDlO DISCS\nA reliable and contidential source bas recent';cy'\na.dvisod thia Bureau that during tho first part of April,\n1949, t-. C. A. Atkins, 4312 Los Feliz, Jbl~ Z7,\nCalifornia, had informed him that three employess or the\nDopirtmont of Bccrention in farkn in the city of Los Angeles,\nCallfomia, had noticed objoots in the sky which appeared to\nbe !lying discs.\nThe above 1.ilfonmtion is bei.Jl8 .f'urnished to you for\nwhatever aotion you desire am no investigation is being con­\nducted relative thereto by- this Bureau.\nn i? {l\n• t ~\n~c:.n,\n\\jVA\n~ e~ebW t~t­"
  },
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   "n": 140,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p140.jpg",
   "text": "•\n',."
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   "n": 141,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p141.jpg",
   "text": "•\n♦ • ,\nCOMMl88IONS:R8\nMA~UR I E L U X FORD\nPRESIOE:NT\nMRS, ROLLIN BROWN\nVICE•PRE510ENT\nMRS. WILLIAM J. WILSON\nC. TON Y PEREI RA\nROBERT L. BURNS\nJ. J. HASSETT\nS ECRETARY\n-\n•\nCITY □r Las ANGELE S\nCALIF'ORNIA\nDEPARTMENT OF\nRECREAT ION AND PARK\n309 CITY HALL\nLOS ANGELES 12\nMICHIGAN 15211\nGEO. HJELTE\nGENERAL MANAOER\nG ILBERT L. SKUTT\nSUPERINTENDENT OP ~ARK&\nF'LETCHER BOWRO N .\nMAYOR\nHolly~.ood, Calif.April 10, 1949.\nMr .\\1·-.1 tar Vwinchell\nNew York City, N. Y.\nMy Dear Winchell .\n(J\n\\Hth reference to9-lying Disc ' :? ~r\nother flying objects, thought you ½ould be interested\nin the follo\" i ng . It in a measure substantiates your\nstatements.\nFriday of last week, three\nname\na\nThey\nconc­\nto\ncheck and\nperson a\n?\n~J *J}tf---\"\nof our de­\npartment employees were working in Griffith Park(the\nnations largest pcfk) when one of them, De Jarnett by\nnoticed an object sailing through the sky and took\ngood look to try and distinguish it. from planes that\nfrequently fly over .\nAbout the same time two of his cen\n,,orking about a half mile av1¥y saw the object .\nchecked with each other and arrived at the same\nlusi0n. It ~as a Disc and they ran to a telephone\nreport the incident. In the meantime DeJarnett started\nto the location ~here his men ¼ere ~orking to\nsee if they had seen the object.\nThey had both seen it which proves\nbeyond a question of a doubt that something of the Disc\ntype v.-as in the air and i,,hen the third illan stated he\nalso saw it, I am satisfied you are very much right in\nyour statements and I am inclined to call a\nliar that says(therREOORn(()°. f is•r~ - <t.Jto/ ­\nOne of your fan ~\n.J:\nINDEXE~~\nC. Al tkins .\n43l~ Los .i:' eliz"
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   "n": 142,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p142.jpg",
   "text": "•\n. ..\n\" ..."
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   "n": 143,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p143.jpg",
   "text": "SAC - San Antonio\nApril Z6, 1949\nDirector - FBI\n;'LYING DJS.KS\n~~ . \\~\"INTERNAL SEC URITY - R\n-~\n{/\n.. $'..~ q¢ /(\n.\nReference is made to your letter dated April 4, 19♦ 9, captioned\n..P rotection of Vital Installations. •• You are instructed in the future to\n£1--'\\teport information relating to £lying disks under the above caption.\nfn regard to your request for information that would substantiAte or\ndiscredit the statements made by Walter Winchell on bis broadc&ist of\nApril 3, 1949, your attention is directed to SAC Letter No. 38 dated March 25,\n1949, captioned ..Flying Disks.' '\nFor your strictly confidential information. the data contained in\nSAC Letter No. 38 was obtained in confidence from a colonel in the United\nStates Air Materiel Command, who obtained his inform ation from persons\nactively engaged in the investigation of this subject.\nNo interview with Walter Winchell will be made by' the Bureau con­\ncerning the source of his statements referred to in your referenced letter.\n;;I;)\n~.~\n,.., _.,,\n0\n-·\n('\") ­\n✓,\nm\n,.....,\n~~~\n0\n< ~\n..,,\n[Tl\n~ c1 0\n:ma\n-4\n~ (J1\np.\n~ CD\n:I\n~\n.i:­\nen\nC\n;~\n.::. '°\n- ::i\n~\nc;)\n\"' m\n~\n'%)\n:3::\n,, -,,-m\nEHM :mpd\nr,b~:.i,\nC 0:, J\n,::\nw::,\n.,,\n=:,\n;-4\n\"tD\n0\n...\n0)\n0\n.i=.\nrr:::::-::---:--~~~- ~\nCO\nIll\". TOUOII\n111-. c1ea-­\n11r. Ol&YlD.\nllr. Lll44_---_-_ -_\nllr, NlcbOli\nllr. RoNn -­\nllr. Trac,--­\n11r. Egan-=---_-_-_\n*\nllr, ourn.a\nwr-. Harbo-­\nwr-. llollr~~---_-_\n::: ~Tim1\"C-\nTele. Room-=\n111-.11eaoe_\n_\n111•• ClllndY_\n_\nI\nLED •\nAPk ~l 1949\n~!lt\\U O IIYE8TI&A"
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   "n": 144,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p144.jpg",
   "text": "...\n....\nt,\n1. , .\n...,\ni,\n...\n..,"
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   "n": 145,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p145.jpg",
   "text": "0\nSTAN!jlARD FORM \"\".• 6-0\n•\n'Ojfiie Memorandum •\n•\nUNITED STATES GOVERNMEN.T\nTO\nFROM\nSUBJECT:\nDirector, FBI\n~ SAC, San Antonio\nPROTECTION OF VITAL INSTALLATIOOS\n(Bureau file 65- 48300)\nV'\nDATE : April 41 1949\nAIR MAIL\nSP-~CIAL DELIVERY\na\nl':'\n22, 1949 which submitted information related by mil itary authorities concerning\nunconventional aircraft.\n...~\n►~\nThe Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, G- 2, 4th Army, has advised\n~ ~-,\n~ t -hat at 11 :50 P.M. !larch 31, 1949 a lighted object about the size of a basketball,\nl,:..; :s-t\neddish white in col or, followed by a fire trail, was observed southwest of\n~~.~Cl~ill een Base, adjacent to Camp Hood, Texas.\nThe observation was made by 1st\n:.:::: ,)\nLt. FREDERICK W. DAVIS, who was in charge of a platoon, Company C, 12th Armored\nSr\nantry Battalion, which is assigned as a part of an alert force (called force\n~ ~\nAbel) from Camp Hood, whose function is to protect the installation at Killeen\nc::,.....\ns\n0\nVjff~ .7~~:~2.._~~~C.­\n\\\n~\nLt. DAVIS advised that the object was at an altitude estima.~e~~~~\nH t-fw\n6, 000 ft. , was traveling paral lel to the ground and passed directly over him at\n~ffi~ a rapid rate of speed.\nIt was in view 10 to 15 seconds and suddenly disappeared\n< ::X:: Q high in the sky without having descended.\nNo sound or odor was detected.\nThe\nnight v,as clear and visibility good.\nThe object passed almost directly over the\nair strip at Killeen Base.\nWhen Lt. DAVIS attempted to advise his headquarters by telephone\nimmediately after the sighting, he heard static or electrical interference on\nthe telephone line which he stated might be possible radio interference• .\nz\n0 w\nG- 2 has advised that other lights of unknoVJn origin were observed on\nti:\n~\nW.arch 6, 7, 8 and 17, 1949, by military personnel of the alert force stationed\na.ppro:x:imately 1000 yards east of the fences ,·,hich surround Killeen Base.\nti:\n0 u\nThe object sighted on March 31, 1949 was reported as being of a\n~ a\nReference is made to San Antonio letter to the Bureau dated March\ndifferent nature from the lights seen earlier in the month.\nIt is noted that Mr . WALTEi)\\.\"W\nApril 3, 1949, stated that 11flying dis\nemanated from Russia.\nilTCHELL, on his\n~\n11 seen in this\n4th Army, contacted\nhad any information that wruld substa\nevening broadcast,\nry defd.nitely\n,:i,ffice, inquiring as\nor discredit the state-\nCkl April 4, 1949, G- 2,\nto whether vre\nments made by WALTER WilJCHELL.\nJEJ:ED\n100-7545\nLU\n0\n0::\n0 u w\nn::: z\n::::i"
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   "n": 146,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p146.jpg",
   "text": "... .. .\n,.\n•\n•·\n.\nqi"
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   "n": 147,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p147.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nLetter to Director\nApril 4, 1949\nSA-100- 7545\nIn view of the interest and concern of 4th Arm:y military authorities\nwho have the duty of protecting the vital installations at Los Alamos, N. M. ,\nSandia Base, N. M. in the El Paso Division, and the Camp Hood area in the San\nAntonio Division, it is suggested that the Bureau may desire to arrange to have\nMr. WINCHELL interviewed concerning the source of his information that \"flying\ndiscs\" emanate from Russia.\nIt would be appreciated if the Bureau can supply any infonna.tion that\ncan be transmitted to military authorities which would clarify this matter.\n- 2 ­"
  },
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   "n": 148,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p148.jpg",
   "text": "'\n) .\n•\n~:~\nIla:, 3, 1949\n\\~~ i r:Z-f3P9d\n/4 '\"\nvr. Care; T6av s\n141 Clai~Dr~ve, Southeast\nAtlanta, Georgia\nEX-43\nDear l!r. Davis:\nYour letter of April Z7, 1949, has been received,\nand I want to thank you for sending cie the newspaper\nclipping which you enclosed together nth your observations\nI\nconcerning tho designs you aubmitted to the federal\ngovernoont 1n 1942.\nAlthough I would like to be of service,\nchecks of the type you desire are not w1thin the scope of\nthis Bureau• s activities. It was very thoughtful of you to\ncontact me in that regard.\nSincerely ~ura,\nJohn Edgar Hoover\nDirector\nWN:rlc J<-p.\n11r. Touon\nIll'. Clegg -­\nllr. Olavln\nIll', Ladd:--_-_-_\nllr. Nichols__\n::~:~~­\nMr.. Egan.__\nMr. Gumea__\nllr. Harbo__\nllr. Mohr~~\nMr.. PeDJ'llngtOll:_\n11r. Quinn Tam_\nTele. Roo•-­\n:;,NeO::r­"
  },
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   "n": 149,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p149.jpg",
   "text": "... ...\n•\n-\n•\n-\nAl R COOLED\n~\n75 ROO M S\nmoornn\n~~~~Ill~~~~~~\n~\nOUR FOOD IS\nUN EXCELLED"
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   "n": 150,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p150.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n---\n..\nZ/\n~4ew Data, Ideas\nAbout Flying\nSaucers\nAnd Death of Pilot\nWho Chased One\na, l:nllff Prtt1\nDAYTON, Ohio, April 27.-Tbe\nonly airman who ever got near a\nnnnr saucer c1·ashed and died be­\nfore he could describe It, the D&7•\nton Journal-Herald said today.\nTbe newspaper printed a lengtby­\ndlapatch on the mysterious flyinc\ndlaca, based, it ,aid, on hitherto un-.\npubllahed reports assembled at the\nWrlr\\lt-Patterson Air Force base.\nTbe AJr Force Investigation hu\nproved that the flying saucers \"are\nnot a joke.\" Neither \"are they a\ncauu for alarm to the popula­\ntion,\" the newspaper said.\nThe CIC>ftst any airman came to\nthe myatery discs was on Jan. 7,,\n19'8, when one was sighted over/\nFort Knox, Ky., the dlspatch said.\nFour fighter planes were sent aloft\nto Intercept It, but only Capt.\nThomas F. Mantell wu able to get\nclose.\n\"I'm closing In to take a good/\nlook,\" the newepaper quoted him as\n(\nreporting by radio. \"It looks metal­\nlic and of tremendous size. It's go-\nIng up now as fast as I am. Th~t•s\n360 miles an hour. I'm golnz up\nafter It.\nAt 20,000 feet, It I'm no\ncloser, I'll abandon cha.se.\"\n,\nMantell's plane crashed a few/\n'l\n- minute later and he was kllled.\nThe paper said 11. report now on - -~-------------­\nflle at Wright-Patterson Air Force on the other hand It wu not lm-1 are I\nBase lists 240 domestic and 30 for- pos:-ible that they were. Later the consr\nelgn accounts of flying discs as Air Force announced it was not form\nhaving been investigated. Of these, mi:.klng any further comments on to a\n30 per cent seem to have been the discs.\nproa\nweather balloon, and the like and\nThe Dayton paper says the report not\n~ 30 per cent more are perhaps ex- on which ita story ls based said the\n1• plal•ble conventlonally-Ieavln&' 40 \"evaluation teams\" stated:\nfar\nper cent maa plalned.\n\"We can't prove or dlsprove the\n•\nThe Air JI' o r c e recenUy ■aid existence ot aoni,.• ot the remaining\n?\n'l there wu no evidence that the unJdentlfled objects as real aircraft a\n'\\ dlsca w •re ,aided missiles fired of unconventional design.\nIv\ntrom some other country, but that\n\"The possibility that the sau~\n...."
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   "n": 151,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p151.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n·-­\nMay 10, 1949\nRECORDED - 135\nr!DEXED - 135\nI I?\nTo :\nDirector of Special Investi gations , (I. O. )\n. •apartment of the Air Force\nThe j>enta0 on\nWashi ngton 25, D. C.\nFrom:\nJohn Edgar Hoover - Director, Federal Bo.reau of Investigation\nSubject:\nINFORW TION CONClOOUNO FLYING SAUCERS\nHR3. FRAi.~ARDNhla -\nINl:\"t>ruwrr\nEnclosed is a photostatic copy of a letter dated April 29. 1949,\nreceived by this Bureau from Mra. Frank ~ardner concerning flying saucers.\nThe correspondent ho.s been advised tna.t a copy of her letter haa\nbeen forwarded to the United States Air i orce.\nThis letter is beine, forwarded to you for any action you~\ndeem advisable.\n11r. Nease\nU18t Oe.ndy\nGOMMUNIC!fflONS SECTION\nBY\nSPECIAL,,-l.ll(SSENGER\n* MAY 11 1949 *\nFE?IWL E~REAU OF fll.ii:STIGlTIOII\nll. S, llf.PAIIMHT Of JUSTICE\n>'Rl,:jmf M\nllr. Tolson\nllr. Clegg -­\nllr. Olavln\n:: lti~~:=1-.;;.,:::-_-_\nIll'. Rosen -­\nllr. Tracy-­\n,.,-. 1:gan_:::::==\n::~~~~\n: : ~~:::;\"\"\"tng=to=n­\nllr. Qu1an Tam\nTele. Room_·_"
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   "n": 152,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p152.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\ncf.\n-r!.:wrn:1.,8\nc£I - ff-I)'\"\\\nC.\nJ\nI/ LSnr .10 'ld30 s\n.{\nHOQU\nfioiTO e\n. I\nj\nfi\n~ J ,J]O~\nI\nI .._.\nr '\"'r.\nL\n.M,~-'"
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   "n": 153,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p153.jpg",
   "text": ""
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   "n": 154,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p154.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n.•\n•"
  },
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   "n": 155,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p155.jpg",
   "text": "p.5,\nj ~ib \\.viiiu_ ~\nlL ~ ~\"1 TN-1~\n~~~lv-1'41 ,~~ .\n~\n~CA-4,) ,"
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   "n": 156,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p156.jpg",
   "text": ".FEDERAL BUREAU OF IN.\nTIGATION\n..-\nRoom 5744 A~cc..._____1949\nI\nI\n✓.\nMr. Tolson....•......\nTO:\n__Director\nMr. Cloirlf............\n-Mr. Ladd\nMr. Glavin ...........\n_ _ Mr. Clegg\nMr, I.ndd............\n__Mr. Glavin\nMr. Nichols..........\n__Mr. Harbo\nMr. Roaen ...........\n__Mr. Nichols IMr. Trocy........... .\n__Mr. Rosen\nMr. Cpn......... - ..\n_Mr . Tracy\nlr. Gnrnea .......-­\n__Mr. Fletcher Mr.Barbo •......••••\nMr. Moh:r ········­\nMr. Pemllnirtc,J,..._.\n__Mr. Mohr\n__Mr. Carlson\nMr. QalnnTamm....\n__Mr. Nease\n__Miss Gandy\n____Fersonnel Fi ~t~tron____\n-Records Sect Inn\n•\n-Mrs. Skillman\nSee Me\nFor Appr opriate Action\nSend File\nNote and Return\nClyde Tolson"
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   "n": 157,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p157.jpg",
   "text": ".\nSTANDARD FORM NC>. 64\n....\n•\nQjfice Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n·,, .\nTO\n: Director, FBI\nDATE: May 13, 1949\ndJ :~c, Los Angeles\nSUBr;j; ~YING DISK\" REPORT\nC,!RF0RMATI0N COOCERNING\nOn May 5, 1949 Mr. MEL HODELL, a reporter for the Sun-Star\nnswspaper, Merced, California, advised Special Agent MARLIN W. JOHNSON,\nthat his paper had been contacted by Lt. Col. STANLEY JACOBS, Intelligence\nOfficer, Castle Air Force Base, Merced, California, re.Lative to any\nreports that the newspaper might have received concerning \"fiying disks\"\nin the Merced vicinity.\nMr. HODELL stated a c.Lose friend of his, one WILLI.All H ~,\n12-A Langdon Villa, Merced, tad advised him that he had obse~A=HO'l\"\nstrange object, and as he is in the Air Cc,rps Reserve, he reported same\nto the Intelligence Officer at Castle Field.\nOn the same date Mr. GEORGE BREMER, Detachment Commander, Office\nof Special Investigations, Castle Air Force Base, Yerced, California, advised\nSA MARLIN W. JOHNSON that he bad heard tt.t an individual bad reported\ns eeing a '1flyi.ng disk\" to the Intelligence Office at the Base but that\nthe Intelligence Officer had not furnished the information to him. Mr.\nBREHER later on the same date contacted SA JOHNSON arxl exhibited a letter\nwritten by STANIEY F. JACOBS, Lt. Col., USAF, Adjutant (Int elligence\nOfficer) to Commanding General, Air Material Command, Wright-Patterson\nAFB, Wright Field, Ohio. This letter contained a statement given by\nMr. WILLIAM H. PARROTT 11'hioh read as follows, 11I bad occasion to step\nfrom my home, located approximately one mile west of the town of Merced,\non the night of April 4, 1949, at approximately 2220. My attention was\ndiverted to a clicking noise of considerable intensity. I stopped on the\nsidewalk about 20 feet from the front steps am recognized the source of\nthis clicking to be in the sky in an area about 4U degrees from the sur face\nof the earth in an easterly direction.\nThe sky cend1.tion was 200<Xl thin\nbroken with 12 miles visibility and surface winds were reported as north\nnine M.P.H. at Castle Air Force weather station. My home is approximately\nseven miles south of Castle Air Force Base and in an area somewhat sheltered\nfrom surface winds,and no appreciable surface wind was apparent at the\ntime the aural observation was made. After about ten seconds of looking\ninto the area described previously as being the source of this sound, an\nobject was observed blanking out stars in describing a flight path in a\nwest or northwesterly direction. Only one object was apparent, its shape\ncan be described as only a solid mass. Its size can be estimated as four\nor f ive feet in diameter in keeping with an estimated altitude of con­\nsiderably less than 1000 (one tbeusand) feet. Color was shown by the\nreflection of grow:xl lights on only two occasions, and appeared to be\nRECORDED • 110\nl ~ .I - _!<--/If~\n100-2442\n- ....; u\nI.\nM\\fJ :JAW\nINDEXED - IlO\n1\n~A 17 1949\n9\nE ..Jo\nAY\nl..~\nCOPIES DESTROYED\n270\nNOV 18 1,54"
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   "n": 158,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p158.jpg",
   "text": "......\nl\nt •\n..\n-"
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   "n": 159,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p159.jpg",
   "text": "I\nLA 100-2442\ndull eurfacted, light colored metal. The only ground lights of in­\ntensity were a row of street lights behind me one ha!f block which leads\nme t o bel.ieve the under surface of this object to be curved in shape.\n\"This object ,men first sighted, ,raa moving vrtry slowly in a west\nor northwesterly direction. I would estimate that I had it in my range\nof vision for 35 seconds, after having heard it about ten seconds before\nlocating it. It passed on beyond the house and maneuvered through an\narc of turn to the left of about ninety degrees. The clicking sound was\ncontinuous throughout this turn, however, it became loudrtr as it returned\non its new heading of south or southwest. On its return t he clicking\nsound became !ouder, but I was unab!e to see it at this time. The click­\ning stopped when it was at its greatest intensity and appeared to come\nfrom a position directly over head. I was unable to see the object after\nthe sound stopped.\n\"This clicking sound, _retained t he same pitch and speed through­\nout the entire course observed, but intensity varied.\nThere was not\nwhistle or roar, but only the clickir.ig noise which might be compared to\nbeaters of a home mixer· that were not properly meshed.\nNo lights or\n-\nflame were observed during the entire course with exception of t he\nprevious described reflections twice.\nNo exhaust trail was distinguish­\nable.\n11My dog was with me and directed her attention in the general\ndirection of this object's flight throughout its course. She had been\nromping with me on coming out of the house but without spoken worli\nstopped and directed her attention on to the previously described area.\nThe cLicking sound might not have been unusual to the dog, but there is\na possibility of sounds on wave lengths discernable only to the dog,\nbeing emitted.\"\nIt is to be noted that Mr. PARRCYI'T is a member of the Active\nUSAF Reserve with rank of Major.\nHe attained rating of pilot in August\n1941 and has approximately 2200 hours f!ying time. During his act ive\nduty period in ffi/2 he stated that he had considerable night f lying\nexperience in connection with his military assignment. The Intelligence\nOfficer in the above mentioned letter made the following statement, 11An\nattempt t o locate other vritnesses in the area or through the loca! news­\npaper proved unsuccessful\".\nMr. BREMER advised that he is planning to cl.ear with his head-'\nquarters office and will probably conduct an investigation.\nThe above is being furnished for the information of the Bureau.\n-2­"
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   "n": 160,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p160.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\nSTANDARD FORM NO. 64\n-Office Memorandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n/\n'To\nFROM\n, ~-F~\n5 P, KEA~\nDATE:\nMay 26, 1949111\nIll'. Tolson ~\n111'. E.A.~\nIll'. Clegg\n-\nIll'. Glavi-n-­\nSUBJECT:\nFLYING DISCS\nlb\", L&Od -­\nIll'. Ntchor.-­\n11r. Rosen -­\nIll'. Tracy-­\nBACKGROUND:\nIll'. E:gan,_-_-_-_-_\nIll'. Gurnea\nIll'. Harbo -­\nIll'. IIOhr.;::---=---_\nMr. PeMln,gton\nIll', Quinn Tam­\nWalter Winchell forward~c the Director a Western Union\nTele. Room\n­\nMr. Nease -­\ntelegram he had received from Rober\npley which stated that he, Ripley,\nU1ss Hoi.mur-­\nU!es Gan<!Y-===\nhad the only authentic Japanese f\nng saucer ever recovered in this\ncountry. Mr. Winchell noted on the telegram, •To J. Edgar Hoover - True?•\nDETAil.3:\nThis matter was discussed by Special Agent Reynolds with the Intelligence\nDivision of the Array, who advised that they had no information concerning any\nJapanese flying saucer. ever having been recovered in the United states.\nThis matter was discussed rlth Colonel William E. Carpenter, <SI-USAF,\nwho advised on April 27, 1949 that he had interested himself in the flying saucers\nand related subjects and that in so far as could be determined by him through his\nsources in the Air Force, which are excellent, there is no authentic information\navailable concerning the phenomenon of the flying saucers.\nHe advised he would check\nwith the authorities at Wright Field to determine if any information is available\ncoocerning the recovery of a Japanese flying saucer.\nColonel Carpenter has now advised that there is no information available\nll\nin any arm of the Air Force to the effect that any flying saucers of any kind have\nbeen recovered in the United States. Colonel Carpenter stated delq had been\nencountered in determining this fact inasmuch as inquiries had been directed through\nindividuals known to him and t1-usted by him and not through the usual channels\nfrom which he possibly would receive a stock answer.\nThe details of this case were not discussed by either Special Agen\"teReynolds\nor Sanders with the Army or Air Force and they are not aware of the telegram sent\nby Mr. Ripley to Mr. Winchell.\nRID:OMMENDATION:\nThe foregoing is for your information and any disposition being desirable•\n•\nfo,., ;11\nv r ~\n,;73J'f~ ­\nRt.CO@t.0 • ~l\n\\l't~E.D - 91\n~t\n/"
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   "n": 161,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p161.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n. ' ­\n:\n•\n1.111:rnr JO ! d:tl ,, •\n9l k'J\\\\\nI 8 J\n..o~,o t-03111:; 33ij\nu ii1·\nJO t,130 ·s ., ;~. ~\n9 92 AV!,\nI ~ -~\n_i :HIIll •• \\1:li,i'."
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   "n": 162,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p162.jpg",
   "text": "~\nl C-D<fcnedCablo\ndicated by a suitable\naymbol above or pre,\nCl.Ass OF SERVICE\n, This --;:-:-full.1rc\n1\"clcgTam , r Cable­\ngram unless its de,\nferred characteT is in­\nW ESTE1 ·•\n~r\n1220\nSYMBOLS\nDL• D.-,Lt:tr~r\n1fo -v UNIO r\nceding the address.\nA . N , WILLI AMS\nT>, rum;:~:: ~;·~'\"'~v:~··~t ·~-;~;:~~:.:.:·; ··,;\n•mt ;: T\"\"-\\-·;;;ANOARD TIME\\;ru,.e-;\n/\n-\\'/ALTER 11 I Nl-HE ~t/EY PUZA HOTEL\nc:J\nG;:-\n·-\nl\nMI At:. I EEA~H FLO=\n11\\A\n~\n1\nI\n•\n:HAVE Tt<J~O~N~LY'.\"\".\".~AU~T::-:1-:--~E_N_,T:\"\"\"~\"\"\"'i:;~-J_A_P_A-~,\"\"\",E-Srf,_7' I Nu SAU~ ER EVE I< REL OVER EL\n~__...,\nI N THI S COUflTRY. BE .... AO'St OP . YOUR INT~fST 'IN THE PRESENT\nDA-Y FLY I Nu DI S~S OF· THE RUSSIANS\nWOULD L l l<E VERY TUCH TO\nHAVE YOU JO I N r.~E ON THE BEL I EVE IT OR NOT TELEV I S I Of! SHO'.'/\nNEXT TU ESDAY APR IL 19TH NBC NETWORI~ 930 TO 10Pf. AND Ld VE\nYOUR COt.~(.'EN TS ON FLY I NG D I SC AND YOUR EX..;LUS I VE 1<1!0\\!LEDuE\n.\ne,./\".\nOF TII I S Lt~TEST RUSS I Afl f.1ENACE. REGARDS EE~ I EVE I T OR NO\n=R I PLEY=\ne\n... ,\n~\n~\"'foilPAN Y WILL APPRECIATE SUGGESl'IONS FROM ITS PATRONS CONCERNING ITS SERVICE"
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   "n": 163,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p163.jpg",
   "text": "..\n;}\nRE.CEIVEO - FLETCHER\n~ ~v lS 7 4J. Pt'i '1\\\n0\n~•\nRECE.\\~t.O\n,10MIC £\"1ftG1\nu~tJ.OM stCT\\0\"\n~76 20'J~ ·~\\\nf. a.,.\nu.S.OlP't. Of .n1s11tl\n-"
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   "n": 164,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p164.jpg",
   "text": "t..cy 10, 1949\n.Mr& • Frank{c.rdner\n2310 w. oJrt;r\n1 .onte , Celifornin\nDear ra. Gardner:\nI wish to acknowledge your letter d:lted April 29, 3.9~.9, .nc. to\nexprou ..iy npprecio.tion for your thou.ght!ulneos in writing tone.\nIn Tiew of the contente ot you.r letter, l have taken the liberty\nof sending n copy to the United Stutes Air orce.\nIn the future, it you have information which tl8Y be of interest\nto this .Bureau, you lllDY find it more convenient to communicnte with .r. R. n.\nHood, Special Agent 1n Charge of our Loa Angeles Office, 900 Secu.rit7 Building,\nLoa Angeles 13, California .\n.lincerely ;youra ,\nJo.nn \"Edgor noover\nirector\nI{?\nC~ Los Angeles with cop e~' -Of incoming.\nThe corresponctent communicated with the Bureau on one previous occasion\nenclosing a clipping from a Spanish lan&11age newspaper in T~xas.\nShe was apparent­\nly dissatisfied with the oanner in which the Latin Americans were being treated\nin Texas .\nA cordial letter of acknowledgement was sent to her. (100-33339)\nq{\nI\nFRW:jmf ft\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION I\nMAILED 1\n* f.,H\\Y 10 1949 P.M."
  },
  {
   "n": 165,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p165.jpg",
   "text": ",.,\nTol ■ on ~\n✓ Mr.\nOF~ICE OF DIRECTOR\n•\nMr. Clegg___\n~\nFEDjAAL BC,~9.U OF INVESTIGATION\nMr . Glavi~<\nUNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\nLadd ✓\nNich\n_\nApril 25, 1949\nRonn___\nTracy _ _ _\nEgan _ ___\nGurnea___\nThe attached was forward ed to\nMr. Barbo___\nthe Director by Walter 'Winchell . Mr. Jones\nThe notation thereon reads:\n--­\nMr . Mohr____\nMr . Pennin1ton_\n\"To J. Edgar Hoover.\nTele. Room_\nMr. Neue___\nTatt eP\"\nMiu Holmea_\nMi II Gandy___\n-\nr.\nMr .\nAttachment\nmt\nI ,\nOJU"
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  {
   "n": 166,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p166.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n\"\nH3HOl31.:I - 0\n13J3ij"
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   "n": 167,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p167.jpg",
   "text": "2\n\"\nton\nllr. Quiml\nTele. Rooa\n: ;/~'..,,.:,.~-/\n, .\n()Jfici.MeJandum • UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT\n'I/ TO\nMr. H. B. Fletcher,y\n( F\nr FROM\n~\n23,;;~~dOD\n'\nF.~.~\nM ff.gcbo\nSUBJECT:\nKA.\nHRIE\nllr. Rosen__\nllr. Trac:r__\nllr. Egan,__\nMIS ELLANEOUS\n11r. ournea__\n)Ir. Harbo__\n:: ~:::;I\nOn the afternoon of May 20, 1949, Miss Kaye lochrie, 4900 N.\nHarding Avenue, Chicago 25, Illinois, was referred to my office from the\n11188\nDirector's Office.\nMiss Lochrie stated she was going to be in Washington for a\nfew da~s that she was staying at the .Ambassador Hotel.\nShe stated\nthat Ro Palmer, Managing E:clitor of the,Je,ff Davis Publishing Ccmpany in\nChica\nhad some infonnation regardiog'--nying discs. Miss Lochrie said\nthat Palmer's theory was to the effect that when people died their souls\nentered a space on this earth which is, of course, invisible to human\neyes.\nHe said that in this soul world there are good arxi bad people am\nthat they have become involved in a war. According to Miss Lochrie, Palmer's\ntheory is that the flying discs which have been seen are the explosives be­\ning used in the warfare between the good am bad souls.\nN,iss Lochrie stated that the real purpose of her visit to the\nBureau was to get her own name cleared. She said that the FBI has been con­\nducting investigation regarding her arxi that she wanted to know the results\nof the investigation. I asked her what kind of an investigation the FBI had\nbeen making regarding her and she stated she was under suspicion of espionage\nactivities. I informed her that I could not furnish her l'd.th any information\nwhich is contained in the Bureau's files inasmuch as our files have been\ndesignated as confidential by the Attorney General.\nMiss Lochrie accepted this explanation am stated regarding her\npresent activities that she had been in the Wacs as a private am bad re­\nceived an honorable discharge in 1945. She said at the present time .she is\nworking as a model in Chi<;ago.\nShe impressed me as being somewhat mentally unbalanced..\nA check of the files failed to reveal that we have comucted any\ninvestigation relative to this individua;, - · -:~\n::J'. ~\nt\nFJB:TD\nRECOn£D-6?. ~;J -J'S?°f>~- 1f\nINDEXED· 62\n2,JUN7 1949."
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   "n": 168,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p168.jpg",
   "text": ":.=.:\n~:\n,....__,\n..c..\nz\nc....\n.\nc::\n.,\nz\n·­\n=t'\n­\n:,\n~\n1\n:z:\n\"'1\n'I; ,, :z,..\n;o\n-\n~\nI'll\n°'\n;t:,:,\n(\"\")\n. .\n...,..., o:; ·~\n\"\nc3 ,.,,\n== ..\nLv\n..r;::_\nf-.f\nN\nn,\n<\n(..c::,\n::0\n.,,- .\n::c:-\n::-,\n-\n3:\n~\nr,\n..\n'?I\n.\n-C\":::"
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   "n": 169,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p169.jpg",
   "text": "=---\"\n•\n'\nOffice Memorandum • UNITED sTATEs GOVERNMENT\nTO\nDirector, FBI\nDATE: June 2, 1949\nf\\\\ROM\n:\nSAC, New Orleans\n~\nSUBJECT:\nC FLYING DISCS\nRe SAC Letter 38, dated Jfarch 25, 1949 entitled as above.\nThe Bureau is advised that through the Office of Naval Intellie;ence,\nNeT1 Orleans, Louisiana, this office has been advised that within the past ten\ndays thr ee sightings of flying disc·s have been reported in the City of New Or­\nleans.\nThe infornation seems to be that the single discs Yrere i n str aight flight\nand traveling i n a general direction of North, in late afternoon,about the size\nof an observation plane , but the shape of a saucer.\nThe Navy stated that two\nwitnesses have advised that the object was traveling end over end; that weather\nconditions were good; that sightings ,·rere made outdoors by persons who did not\nwear glasses; that the dates Yrere I.lay 18, 19 and 23, 1949.\nThe Navy states\nthat it was possible these objects wer e weather balloons, but that these are\nused from only one airport, released over an hour befor e the times of sighting\nand would generally be out of sight in a few minutes.\nThe above is being furnished the Bureau for futur e reference since\nthe Navy has informed that all three instances were investigated by the Army\nIntelligence•\nPW/mmd"
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   "n": 170,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p170.jpg",
   "text": "•\n'\n,., _"
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   "n": 171,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p171.jpg",
   "text": "The\nDi r ector\nThe\non\n00-6\n, #\n'\n.\nMr . Tol1on /\n' ,\nI';\nOFFICE\n•\no;: D1RECTOA\n,/. Mr. Clegg\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATIOM\nI\nMr. Glavi~n\nUNITED\n~\nSTATES DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE\nMr. Ladd\nMr. Ni~•­\nMr. Ro\nlfay 23, 1949\nMr.\nMr.\nMr.\nattached was sent t'O the\nMr.\nby Wa l te r rfinchell .\nMr. Tracy\nEgan\nMr. Mohr ~...--\nhandwritten notat i on there - Mr. Pennington_\nreads:\nTele. Room___\nMr. Nease___\n\" To Hoover !\nMiu Holme,_\nMiII Gandy___\nHa !\""
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   "n": 172,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p172.jpg",
   "text": "l..,J\n:..'l,,\n'.\n-l~l l Sfl \" .:i O 'Ld30 ·s ·r:\n\\ ~ _-j"
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   "n": 173,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p173.jpg",
   "text": "_,.,....\nt\n..\n'I - f\n.,,' .\n•\n~fl\nt.\n•\n~\n,.\nSan lllis Obispo, California\nTay 15 , 1949 \"\n1'Talter Winchell\nNew Yorlt, New York\nV\nDear Si r :\nUnder attached cover you will find a\nample\nour item.\nShould vou do no more than take ou\n~LY]Ji' SA.UCE!l out , care­\nfully r ead the instructi ons, and fly it; I will have accom­\nplished a portion of my e~ectations .\nFor the past few weeks I have list,..ned with more than an in­\ndifferent attitude , to y,ur various Sunday evening broadcasts\nand col!llllents concerniPg Flyinp f aucers .\nFrom the start , much\nas many another individual who has tried to get ahead by his\novm initiative , I have visial ized what the right type of\npublicity would do for my interests.\nTo state my actions in any other manner, would belittle your\nintelliRence, and the werks of forethought and sincerity in\nwhich this is submitted.\nYour coJ11IDent this evening, concerning the Gyroscopic Theories,\nsnarkplu~~ed my actions.\nAlong ~1 ith the phases of merchandising mentioned in the att­\nached articl es, I should like to mention that one troop of\nBoy Scouts in Los Angeles are purchasing and Fnthusiastic­\nally include the~ fls a major portion of their recreation\nprogram.\nBy th~se facts , it is apparent that our LYilJ ' SAUC~ is\nworthy of every effort we are able to summons in makin~ it\n';2.\n:r\nanot~1).merican pastime of Yo-Yo proportions .\n/\nb,'trt~\nti~cffelga.$ Trusting that we are justified of your consideration f r om a\nnevffi>rorthy standpo~\n;;:;r~ Yours, .\n~ nMk ~\n1767 Conejo )r ive\nSan Luis Obispo, Califoria\nftFr\" r\\.~~1) _S8 n ,v - r3 'f .\nt'S\n~\\) -~\n,~\\_\\)~\nGY\n51949"
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   "n": 174,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p174.jpg",
   "text": "•"
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   "n": 175,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p175.jpg",
   "text": "•<cz- 8?8'i~ --,11"
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   "n": 176,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p176.jpg",
   "text": "GREAT FUN FOil THE WHOLE FAMILYI\nFlYIN-SAUCER performs in an amazing way as you\ndevelop your skill in flying it. A novel way lo\nplay catch. You will thi-nk of many games\nto play. Adaptable lo almost any game.\nHOW TO FLY\nlaunch your FlYIN-SAUCER straight ahead\nwith a snap of your wrist making it spin as fast\nas possible. DON'T THROW TOO HARD . .. . It's\nthe spinning that gives it lift. Begin by flying about\nIO feet. When windy, throw across the wind. You\nwill quickly learn how to bank to the left or right."
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   "n": 177,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p177.jpg",
   "text": "--\nFLIGHT INSTRUCTIONS\nFLYIN' SAUCERS have flight characteristics very slml lar to a irplanes. The SAUCER IS launched\nIn identically the same manner as sa l llng your hat onto a hook--by spinning and forward\nmo­\ntion.\nIn order to fly In a straight I ine, the SAUCER must leave the hand In a level position.\nTo\ncurve the SAUCER, It must leave the hand banked o r tilted in direction of desired curve--for\nexample: for left curve-the left side of the SAUCER must be tilted down.\nFOR BEST RESULTS -\nThe spinning of the SAUCER Is most Impo rtant and most difficult to mas­\nter.\nBecause the spin creates a gyroscopic action which controls the attitude of the SAUCER\nIn flight, a smooth, fast spinning del Ivery should be developed Do\nnot hold the\nSAUCER too\nt I g ht .\nAnal yze your mistakes and make corrections by ti It Ing or banking SAUCER. The correction must\nbe appl led to t he SAUCER as It leaves the hand.\nSAIL 'EM BACK AND FORTH • PLAY CATCH\nl!r-­\n:~-\nBegin by flying you r saucer about 10 feet.\nThe distance you are able to fly it wl I I\nquickly increase with practice.\nMAKE 'EM TURN !\nBy releasing the SAUCER\nIn a tilted manner,\nyou\ncan make It turn to the\nleft o r r ight.\nBank It\nthe way\nyou want it to\nt urn. It Is aavlsable to\nlearn to fly st raight be­\nfo re starti ng to\nmake\nturns .\nMAKE 'EM COME BACK ! ;;_~\n.,,.,._:',\n/~/\n~,,,.,,,./\nAfter learning\nt o\n/\nfly straight and make\nturns, you' I! be able to\nr\nmake yov r SAUCER return to you\nby sal I Ing It Tnto the breeze\nat a sharp angle. The harder a\nwind blows , tne flatter an an­\ngle you can fly it to make it\n--a_ l!iUll__\nreturn Spin SAUCER as much as\n~\npossible.\nMAKE 'EM SKIP !\nRight-handers launch SAUCER so that left si de strikes\nhard surface. Right side fo r left-hande rs.\n_\n_.\n- - - - ·- - - - - -\n\\Ilk-\n-­\nHARD S\nTHE GAME OF HECKLE\nTHE GAME OF HECKLE\nprovides a means of utll lzlng\nthe unique manner in which the FLYIN'\nSAUCER canoe guided.\nRu les and regulations are provided,\nforming the basis for skll I and\ncompetition\nPLAYERS -\nFour -\nwith two on each team.\nOBJECT -\nTo fly SAUCER around HECKLEOS into your partner's circ le.\nALL CIRCLES ARES FEET IN DIAM[TtA\nCENTER s,Ac[ MAY VARY WITH MILITY,\nAl I players must rema in In their circ le unti I SAUCER Is airborne .\nThe game begins with the Flier (Al attempting to sal I the SAUCER around the HECKLERS In the\nci rcles I BJ and (CJ so that his partner in the Receiver's circle IOJ can catch it .\nFlier IAJ must remain in\nhis circle when serving the SAUCER.\nHECKLER IBJ must remain in his circle at al I times whl le his te3m is defensive.\nHe may\nat­\ntem?t to stop the flight of the SAUCER, or distract the Fl le r in any manner.\nShoul d he step\nor fat I out of his circle, his team forfeits I point and the offensive team retains serve.\nHECKLER (CJ remains in his circle untl I SAUCER is airborne.\nHe may then leave his circle to\nheckl e the Receiver 10) in any manner so long as he doesn't inte rfere with ff ight of SAUCER\no r touch the Receiver, or step Into the Receive r' s cl rcfe. Hecklers forfeit\n2 points\nfor\neach infraction.\nReceiver (0) attempts to catch the SAUCER In his circle.\nShould he do so, then his team re­\nceives 2 points.\nShould it be necessary for the Receiver to leave his circle to catch\nthe\nSAUCER, then his team sco res but I point .\nShould he drop or miss the SAUCER, no points are\nscored, and the t eams change positions.\n(AJ changes with CB> and (CJ changes with (0).\nCC> Is now the Fl ler, and (BJ the Receiver.\nHECKLER IOJ must remain in his circle,\nand the\nHECKLER IAJ becomes the roving HECKLER.\nTeams change positions when the Receiver fal Is to catc~ the SAUCER.\nIn the event that no Referee is avai Iable, disputes wi I I be settled by mutual agreement, or\nthe flip of a coin.\nFi rst team to score 25 points wins the game.\nKEEP '£M FLYI N'\nThis is a PIPCO PRODUCT\nSan Luis Obispo, Cal if."
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   "n": 178,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p178.jpg",
   "text": "Flying Saucers Come from Southern California\nDo YOU HAVE spots before your eyes? Do vari-colored\ndiscs flutter and sail in the air in front of you? Do you\nsee flying saucers in the skies ?\nIf you do, don't call the doctor nor jump on the wagon.\nAnd don't worry. Other persons are seeing flying saucers\ntoo-seeing them fly through the air-an.:l seeing them\non the sales counters of the stores. You can even pick\nthem up and feel them, and, preferably, buy them to play\nwith.\nIt all started many years ago-long before the recent\nflurry of flying saucers-\nwhen a little boy named Freddie\nused to play with his mother's pie tins. If he threw them\nwith just the right twist of the wrist, they spun and turned\nin fascinating curves.\nFreddie grew up into a man called Fred Morrison, who\nalways remembered what fun he had had playing with the\npie tins. As a grown-up, he applied his knowledge of\naerodynamics to the problem of developing a disc which\ncould be thrown and tossed and its flight controlled by\nthe thrower.\nHe evolved a metal model that sailed through the air\nin a most satisfactory manner. The curved disc was 9 in.\nin diameter and a scant 2 in. deep, with radiating arc­\nshapped fins and a heavy outside rim. A snap of the wrist\nwhen throwing gives a centrifugal motion to the disc\nwhich in turn gives. guidance in flight. The radial fins\ncreate a vacuum on top of the whirling disc, and stability\nfrom beneath is provided by the heavy rim.\nThe metal model sailed through the air beautifully­\nbut also, being metal, it sailed through windows and\nhedges and other obstacles, somewhat after the manner of\na miniature cyclone. A material other than metal seemed\na wise idea if the disc-or flying saucer-were to become\na commercial product.\n.\nA lightweight, slightly flexible plastics looked like the\nanswer, and Morrison brought his metal model to Southern\nCalifornia Plastic Co., Glendale, Calif., to see what might\nbe done in plastics. Stanley J. Gray and Edward L. Ken­\nnedy, president and secretary of the firm, took the metal\ndisc out on the lawn to \"demonstrate\" its possibilities\nand were soon breathlessly convinced that a great deal\nof fun could be had by young and old alike.\nA plastics model of the disc was carved from a solid\nblock of material, and then a mold made in the shop of\nSouthern California. Engraving of the mold was done\nby United Engravers, Los Angeles.\nThen came the problem of the right material. A search\nwas made throughout the range of thermoplastic molding\ncompounds to find the proper material that combined\nflexibility, impact strength, and stability while in motion.\n(The discs achieve considerable speed--and strain- when\nin flight.) Cellulose acetate provided the best combination\nof properties to do the job. Acetate discs will not break\nglass windows, nor shatter when falling from a great\nheight, nor scar the finish on automobiles, nor injure the\nplayers.\nThat's a real Flyin' Saucer this young mon has just thrown into\nth,\nair-molded of tough and lightweight cellulose acetate by\nSoulhern California Plastic Co., Glendale. Designed in occordance\nwith aerodynamic principles, the Flyin' Saucer spins through the air\nwith the greatest of ease. Note the radial fons on the disc in the\nboy's left hand.\nAn in• .,esting part of the story is that producing the\nacetate \"Flyin' Saucer\" is only part of the story. It is a\nproduct with a wide market (how many yo-yos were sold\nin the US last ·ear, do you suppose?) ; but it must be\ndemonstrated to be sold. Everyone who sees a Flyin'\nSaucei in action is enthusiastic. Anyone who sees one\nlying on a sales counter is likely to p:iss by.\nThat presents a merchandising problem that has the\nsales staff of Southern California Plastic hard at work,\nthinking up ways and means for demonstrations, action\npublicity, visual promotional stunts. With a record of\nsteady-selling staple consumer items now on the market,\nSouthern California has no intention of letting the Flyin'\nSaucers sit on the sales counters.\nCarefully-controlled\ndistribution, related to on-the-spot demonstrations or pro­\nmotional campaigns, has been the rule so far. National\nmarkets will not be tackled until all the promotional kinks\nhave been unraveled.\n. l\nReprinted from PACIFIC PLASTICS, August 1948"
  },
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   "n": 179,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p179.jpg",
   "text": "in\n,,.\n-\n'5-ky Devil-Ship' Scares Pilots;\nAir Chief Wishes He Had One\nPlane Makers\nDubious About\nAlabama 'Thing'\nBy WILLIAM KEY\nWhat was that Thint\ntbat\nscared the daylights out of two\nAtlanta Eastern Air Line pDoa\nthe spooky hours Sa~\nmorning!\nIs there some stratospheric Loch\nNess fire-breathing monster on\nthe Milky Way run between At­\nlanta and New Orleans?\nThe :- lots. C:i;>t, C. S. Chiln.\nof Atlanta, and Co-Pilot ,J. B.\nWhitted. of Hapeville. would like\nto know. The Army Strategic Air\nCommand would like to know. Bht\nairplane manufacturers al•o are\ncuriou~. but slightly dubious.\nPilots Chiles and Whitted told\ntheir thrillinJt story upon arriv­\ning at municipal airport here Sat­\nurday on the Houston-AUanta,\nBoston run. Here i~ what they\nsay they saw, near Mont,tomery:\nA gigantic plane without winits,\n!black against the\nniJtht i;ky,\n5treakin1t through the heaven5 at\n5,000 feet altitude with a fiery\ncomet's tail 25 to 50 feet in\nlength. It had a 100-foot fuselaae\nabout four times the circumfer­\nence of a B-29's, and two rows\nof\nbrilliantlv\nlighted\n1Quare\nwindows. Creepiest ot all, it was\na veritable rJyjrs«J)utchman of\nthe Skies. Nt'ry a living soul was\n, een aboard_!_~~----­\nEAL FLIERS DESCRIBE WINGLESS AIRCRAFT\nCopilot J8hn Whitted and Capt. C. S. Chiles (right).\nATIANTA JOIJRNA.L\nSUlIDAY • 7/25/48"
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   "n": 180,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p180.jpg",
   "text": "-\nContltppp• JJ.r;bt\nI\nThe pilots admitted they had\ngoose pimples riding pick-a-back\non goose pimples. What's more,\nthey said one of their 20 passen­\ngers-C. L. McK1:?h•ie. of Colum­\nbus, Ohio-was awake and ~aw\nthe same thing.\nReporters nailed Mr. McKelvie\nat Kennett Square, Pa. How about\nit, they asked him-had he seen\nwhat the Atlanta pilots said he\nsaw?\nWell, now, said Mr. McKelvie­\nnot exactly. He said he saw \"no\nform of ship\" whatever. He saw a\n\"continuous light speed past\" lwi\nwindow.\n\"But,'' added Mr. McK.,\n1'I'm\nnot very well versed in aeronau­\ntics, and certainly I wasn't look­\ning for any Buck Rogers space\nship.\"\nOut at Santa Monica, Cal., the\nfamo111 Gen. George C. Kenney,\nchief of the Strategic Air Com­\nmand, was bearded In his den.\nHis eyes twinkled. No, he said,\ncautiOU5ly, it wasn't one of his\nplaneL The Army as yet hun't\n1ot anything like the Thing seen\nover Montgomery.\nNot Boelnc Plane\n\"I wish we did,\" the general\nsaid wistfully. \"i sure would have\nliked to see that Thing.\"\nSo said William M. Allen, pres­\nident of the Boeing Aircraft Co.,\nup at Seattle.\n~I'm pretty sure\nit wasn't one of our planes,\" said\nMr. Allen, modestly.\nAlmost identical statements is­\nsued by the Army Air Forces at\nWashington and the United States\nWeather Bureau at Montgomery\ntended to throw some light on\nthis fantasy.\nBoth sources sug­\ngested that. the Atlanta pilots had\nflown past an air radar weather\nobservation balloon. Those things,\nthey explained, are 10 feet in\ndiameter and have square, tinfoil\nboxes fastened to them. 'the boxes\nreflect light and \"give strange\nillusions\" f!S they twist and turn.\nMaxwell Field said they send 'em\nup at six-hour intervals.\nAnd Maxwell Fielijs at Mont­1\ngomery.\n­\nATLANTA JOURNAL\nSUN&Y, 7/25/48"
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   "n": 181,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p181.jpg",
   "text": "'Aying FloOr Lamp~\nAgain Sighted Here\nB;v CHARLES P OU\nshe did see \"a great ball of fire I\nlamp\" is at\nThat \"flying floor\nit again!\ncantaloupe\nAn\n. Illuminated\nrolled over the city!\nAnd a newspaperman saw \"great\nballs of fire!\nWhat's more, two Richmond Va.,\ni;choolteachers say they saw the\n\"fl\nrt·\n,,\nk\nsame\n. ame-spu mg\n5 Y mon­\nst~r \"\".h1ch ~as spotted by Eastern\nAir Lines pilots near Montgomery.\nLike Red F loor Lamp\n\"I i;aw Halley's comet-and it\nwas nothing like what I saw last\n'night,\" declared Ml·s. W. R. Dell<.\nof 914 Hemphill a\\'e., N. W.\nBreathlessly, Mrs. Delk continued:\n. \"The front end of it looked like\na flying floor lamp-a fiery-red\nfloor lamp. Then it trailed of1 in\nllittle square sections.\n\"Oh, Halley's comet was nothing\nlike that.\"\n1\n\\\nAnd Mrs. Delk was joined by al\nleast 15 other Atlantians who saw\na Thing which banked and rolled\nand breathed fire over the city\nMonday night between 8 p. m.\nand 9:45 p. m.\nIn the downtown section, Mr.\nand Mrs. Richard P. Sellers were\n1minding their own business when\nI\na \"reddish-white ball of fire about\nthe size of a cantaloupe with a\ntail on it\" da~ed over buildings.\nI Mrs. A. C. ~•bY, or'Carey Park,\nhas never seen a purple cow but\nwith a great long purple tail on\nit.\" That was about 9:40 p. m.\n\"Bluish Streak of Light\"\nAn attendant at the naval air\nstation thought he was watchi:i.'I\na falling star, until it started\nclimbing and banked away from\nAtlanta. To him, it looked like a\n\"bluisdh streakb of ltihght.\"\nAn now a out\ne newspaper­\nman. John Batlle, city editor of the\nAugusta Chronicle, hung up the\ntelephone after a dozen calls about\nweird goings-on in the Augusta\nskies.\nHe looked 8':i+' 1:,o=A:11ifl 1/IJI\nHe summoned his st11;Y,.ffl:.i\n'1'reat balls \"' 'ire,._.~\nATIANl'A JOURNAL, 7/27/48"
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   "n": 182,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p182.jpg",
   "text": "'LIKE BIG F~O'?R LAMP FLYING ALONG'\n~\nEverybody's Seeing 'Things' I\nWhizzing Through Night Sky\nBy CHARLES POU\n. burst in mid-air.\nof a floor lamp, and it was the\nls that Thing no more than a\n5. A flash of cherry red fire. prettiest thing I ever saw. It came\nwayward floor lamp?\n6. A meteor.\nand passed so quick-I guen it\nMrs . .Noah Atkinson, of Brook- . Mrs. Atltinson kept her Fly- mu.st have been 500 miles an hour\nllaven, saw it. And what did that mg Floorlamp secret three weeks. or faster.\"\nThing look like?\nB~t she knew she wasn't seeing\nAnd how about the two air­\n\"A great big floor lamp, all lit things when she saw the Thing.\nline pilots, C. S. Chiles and John\nup. Oh, il was beautiful!''\n.\nShe.and her husband, who also B. Whitted, of Atlanta?\nAnd C. M. Bowles, an Expos1- saw 1t, kept mum. The story\nWell\nthey\ntook\noff\ntoday,\ntion Mills painter who lives near really sou~ded a little silly unt_il armed'with a camera And th\nthe Municipal airport, Sunday th~ two air line p1lots saw their hope to bring back a· p·ct\n1\ne~\n0\nnicht saw a \"huge, brilliantly Thmg gamboling and fire-breath- that Thing\nure\n:U,hted object\" streakjng over At- ing through air-line skies early\n•\nlanta skies at maybe 30,000 feet. Saturday morning.\nBe\nh Th\nC\nMr. Bowles thinks the Thing was\nAfter that, she decided hef tale\nOC\nrongs\nranl\nstraight from Moscow.\ncould be told:\nAt 'Silver Cylinder'\nTwo air line pilots :Cirst were\n\"My husb..,;l'.i 11uu I were sit­\natartled by the newest astronomi- ting on our front porch the night\nASBURY PARK, N. J., J4ly 26.\ncal \"what-is-it\" near Montgomery of J uly 5, and at a quarter to 9 (A\")-Boa_rdwalk throngs_ at this\nearly Saturday. To them it was \"a o'clock we saw this Thing. Our resort city craned their necks\nwingless craft, spurting flame like front porch doesn't have a screen, Monday at a \"s_ilver .cylinder\"\na Buck Rogers rocket ship.\" Else- and we were sitting near the they reported flymg !ugh over­\nwhcre, all over the country that edge where we could see good.\nhead.\nThing was variously identifi~d as:\n\"I saw it first. It was not high\nThey described it as \"wll.y up\n1. An aluminum covered bal- '!,IP-about _200 .feet, I guess, but in the air,\" and like a blimp \"only\nloon.\nit looked hke 1t was right above blunt at both ends.\"\n2, A ball of fire.\nthe treetops. 'Looka\nthere', I\nOfficials, recalling \"flying sau-\nAi h R -..usually bright light.\nyelle~ to my husband, and he cers,\" asked Fort Monmouth per­\n4. A red and blue flame that saw it too.\nonnel to see if they could identify\n\"It looked like the top part it.\n•\n,..\nATLANTA JOURNAL, 7/26/48"
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   "n": 183,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p183.jpg",
   "text": "~\n1515 • 9th St.\nYichita Falls, Texas\nAug. 5, 1948\nPublisher,\nAtlanta Journal,\nAtlanta, Georgia.\nDear Sirs\nOn Jul.7 25, 1948, I mailed a letter enclosing .35 cents i:u coin\nand an airmail aelf•addreseed enTelop to your circu.lation department, asking\nfor tear sheet ■ of the Atlanta Journal oontaininc the stories on a \"strange\"\nor 11JIIY'sterious\" aircraft seen aear Monteo11e1\"7, Alab&111a, July 24, 1948, by two\npilots, Cap't c. s. Chiles and John». Whitted, of the Eastern Air Lines.\nThese have not arr1Ted.\nI _asked for two copies each of the stories.\nEnclosed is an additional .35 cents, and another sta11ped self-ad­\ndressed envelop. Will you kindly aee that your circulation department com­\nplies with this simple request?\nI assure you that my interest in the above stories is prompted by\ninterest in the defense of our count1\"7, and you are hereby given my fullest\npel'Dlission to turn this letter requ.esti~ the copies of the stories over to\nthe J'.BI, should you wish.\nThanking you Tery kindly, I am,\nSincerely,\n/s/ Mra. Madeline Gwynne Merchant\nMra. Madeline Gw,ynne Merchant\ncc/Agent-In-Chari•\n7ederal !ureau of Inve■ tigation\nAtlanta, Georgia"
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   "n": 184,
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   "text": "The incident was, I belie'Ye, an important one.\nAnd though I haTe\nalready 111&de reports to MaJ. Sidney Newburger of Loe Alamos and to General\nl!andy, I would appreciate the Mler nevapaper atoriee appearin~ in the\npreH there.\nThanking 7ou kindly, I am,\nSincerely,\n/•/Mrs.Madeline Gwynne Merchant\nMra. Madeline Gw7nn• Merchant"
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   "text": "g.x\n1515 - 9th St.\nWichita lalla, Texas\nA~. 5, 1948\n~nt-In-Oharge,\nFederal 1'ureau. of InTestigation,\nAtlanta, Georgia.\nDear Sirs\nEnclosed is a carbon ot a letter requ.estin& tear sheeta of the un­\nusual aircraft •een near Montgomery, Alabama, Jul7 24, 1948, storiea con•\ncernin& which wen carried by AP and UP, ori~inati~ in Atlanta.\nIt 'IDlq h&Ye been overai«ht by someone in the cire11lation dep 1 t of\nthe Atlanta Journal, or it mq have been 1 alarm\" that a woman vould_be re­\nqueatinc thi• tn,e ot information, even thoU€h it was published, and there­\nb7 open information.\nETen thou«h I cann~t identify Jqaelf to the Atlanta Journal publisher\nor staff, I can to you.\nI have worked independently on the problem of aerial\nllieail••• of which I believe this was an example, with all rrr data ~ing di­\nrectly to officials and member■ of the security o:f'tice of the Atomic Enera\nCon., Los Alamos Atomic ProJect, Los Alamos, W.M. , and to hi«h members of\nthe War Department, including Gen. Thomas T. lland7 • J'ourth U. s. Anq Coa­\nmander, 1t. Saa Xouston, Tex., head of this u. s. J.:nq district.\n-, cannot and should·Mt\"'t;y•c~\"';c\nt_hat agaJn, let us not wJth the exces o\nfive zeal of the new convert be blind=\nY intolerant of those who d\nt\n=immediately have the courage ~tna~I\n_ ~~!~:~ most recently acquired con­"
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   "n": 186,
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   "text": ", lnv~,;t Novel, New Gamt\nFlying\nSauc•;•, Catch ,-----------==\nFancy ol Da) ,ona Beach I\nVi,itor, and Re,ident,\n.\nBy JACK TROY\nTimes-Union Staff Writer\nf\n£x-A fTny'Air F ~~ce \\fifiers\nDAY!ONA BEACH, Feb. 14-The\nIngenuity of two former Army Air\n;:ore~ !lier:;\nfrom California ls\npaymg of!\" at this Florida Beach\nresort where, nowadays the air 1s 1•\nfull of \"flying saucers.';\nWhen Major Warren Fransclonl :\nand Lieut. Fred Morrison of San\nLouis_ Obispo completed their war\nexperiences ln the China-Burma• I\nIndl_a and the Italian theatres of op- l\n~r~1on, they returned home anrl I\nJo ed forces in a novel industry.\nMorrison had always been I\nI\ntrigued by the Idea. o! sailing ;i; 1\n/pans on the beach, and so h\ny • ·/\nFranscioni put th~lr h- -\n..ua tal­\nents togethP~ ..aa came up with a\n,\n1 plastic version with fins. They then\nhad Invented a new game, a novel\n, way of playing catch with nylng\nl saucers. a gyroscopic airfoil aerodY·\nmanically correct. precisely engi•\nneered and a pleasant way to take\nexercise.\nGrid Coa.ch Uses It\nThe football coach at Hemet.\nCalif., High School was Intrigued\nwith the idea of using the saucers\nto condltlna his pl<>)'«~., t ..o.,.'- q,.,,,,\n1\n1\n; •\nI\n1\n:\n'oala.nce and to reach out to ma,b­\ncatches of the discs which. by e•-:--..\ntain methods of spinning, bo0111·\nerang and also sail a.way from the ~\nintended receiver. A player has to\nl,be on his toes to catch them, espe• I\nclally if the wind ls blowing.\nI<\nIt rnav be just coincidence, Ran- •\nscion! and Morrison said toda:V, but E\n\\ the Hemet coach last season tum.ed\nout his first championship team. The\nboys were on their toes.\n~\nAlthough they had their di&CS \\\nmade in Glendale and had planned\nl\n, on extensive West Coast promotion,\nsnow flakes unexpectedly fell and\n,~o they headed for Daytona Beach.\nwMre, according to the tourists.\n\"summer spends the winter.\"\nNo snow flakes fall here; onr,::,\nflying saucers. \"-'hich are so durable i\nthat they are not Injured by cars E\npassing over them.\nt\nMorrison was shot down In hiS c\nfifty-eighth mission In Italy but\\1\nescaped serious injury.\nThe tv.·o J\nex-Army officers refer to them-I\\\nselves as the world's champion Fly- \\'t\ning saucer pilots, and certainly\ntheir novel lnventlor -conceived In t\nCallfornlli, and promo•.ed ln Florida 1\n-ha.& caught on with beach lovers. Jc\nTheY\nwere smart enough, of 1\ncourse, to patent the Flying saucer ,\nidea in order to capitalize on ready- .I\nmade publicity bor•\nof repeat ed ,r\nSaucer sea res arour\nthe country.\\\n·\\ In throwlnit the 01d pie or calte s\ntins there always was the danger it\nI or cutting one's hands. But with \\t\n· \\the new plastic tin saucers, the 1\nonly danger ls getting bopped In I\nthe nose. And only the less agile! t\nallow that to happen once In a le\nwhile. Promotion Main Problem\nI\"\nFransclonl and Morris feel that 1\n~\nI\ncoaches might find their salllng•\ngadgets just as handy In training a \\\nsquad as did the coach of Hemet.\nAnd they are hopeful tM,t theyI\nmay, in time to come, expand their\nw11res from coast to coast.\nAt the present time DaytonaI\nBeach is the only resort that has\nseen the saucers.\nThe boys are\ncontemplating attending a few fairs\nand getting their product before\n,larger m41-sses of the public.\n\"Promotion ls our only problem,\"\n!Morrison declared.\n\"Production ls\nno Item. All who've tried our in·\nteresting little 1t~dget seem to have\nfun sa lllng It. 11nd they also find\nthat they are using muscles long\nneglected.\""
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   "text": "•\n•\nOffice_ ·\n•\nMemorandum • UNITED sTATEs GOVERNMENT\nDATE:\nro\n: DIRECTOR, FBI\nfloM ')>C\nRICHMOND\nSUBJB<-f!,LY~ DISCS SIGIITED /J RADFORD, VIRGINIA\nHAY 12, 1949\nTher0 are enclosed 4;,:we,- clippings concerning what has\nbeen described as a :lying disc sighted at Radford, Virginia on\nl!ay 12, 1949.\nThe Bureau may desire to refer this to the Department\nof the Air Force.\nThis office has no infor,nation other than that\nappearing in the news items which appear to cover the best inforn:ation\navai lable.\nThe matter was not reported directly to this office and,\ntherefore, no investigation or inquiries are being made and none of X'\nthe individuals who allegedly saw the thing have been interviewed. U\nELB:GTC\n~\nEnclosures (2)\n1~-_J}lJ..1:- 11\n11 MAY 25 1949\nRICORDED · 78\nEX-42"
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   "text": "•\n•"
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   "n": 189,
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   "text": "- -\n•\n,.\n'\n~ •\n-~-:\n}lay 25, ·1949\n#~-,I) ~ (3 f 7f -/rjf\n-\n1Jrs. llcnry Beston\nChicnol/ •• ,rn\n1.'obleb ro 1 11atnc\n•\nDear 11r . Beoton:\nYour lotter posttiarkcd Uay 16• 1049, has been\nreceived and I Qa~t ~o trar.~ uou /or oond£ng ne tnforn~tt n\nconcorntnr. the ~attar you enttonad.\nI~ was tndeed uery\nthouQht/u , of you to re ort 'tha·,., c!at~ to thio org~ni ::oti on .\nSincerely yours~\nG l. R. -6\nJohn Edgar Hoover\nD'lroctor\nNOTE:\nCor respondent saw a small object in the sky near the\nend of the day wh£ch took various shapes and through glasses\nappeared like a double bloom tratltng something below tt.\n.\nShe beltves tt might be a flying dtsK.\nIn view of her nebulous\n1,nformatton and -as tt.wa~ ver y possibly a weather bajloo~ ,:­\n-,,\n~ ...,:\n0\n!!I\n\"'\n-c:;\n~\n] • . ti ~\no/' ;::i\n~\n~ ~­\n0\n-e::\n~\n(..\n\"\"\n--\nr--1\nd\")\n~\"T\"\n,::;. ­\n, ti ..,, '\n~;a,c;\n'\" Cl)\n.,.._/\n'\"\n-\"\" ~\n<.- r-\"c::i\n­~\n-~\n~ ~\n;:.\n'%\n~r\n...\nno f~rth actt on 1,s deemed necessary.\nf/N:mj\nj{✓\nC0MMUNICATlO"
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   "n": 190,
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   "text": "....\n..\n...\nJ tJ\n-\n)\n-\n...-\n.,.\nc;,\nC\n. t'\nfU\n~ -\n...,~\n-\n'-•\nN\n..,;,\n,::"
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   "text": "•\n•\n..\nLynch,..ur Advance\n5/13/A9\nTh&se Aying Discs\nAre at It Again,\nVirginians Report\nZounds! Here we go again! Inler­\nplanetory space-ship? Visitor from\nMars? A new Russian rocket ship?\nAirgoing submarine? Just take your\nchoice, your guess is every bit as\ngood as the next qne according to\nreports from various sections of Vir­\nginia and Tennessee on last night's\nstrange phenomenon.\nWhat it was, where it came from\nand where it was going, no one\nknows, but even Civil Aeronautics\nAdministration officials were puzzled\nand had no answer.\nWhatever the thing was, it re­\nsembled a long cigar, with a bright\nred nose and trailing smoke. Re­\n\\ rorts coinciding with that descrip•\ntion came from localities along an\nalmost direct line through Tennessee\nand Virginia and seemed sufficient\nto convince even the most skeptical\nthat what the callers said they had\nseen was no figment of imagination.\nThe descriptions generally Jn­\noicated the object came over the\ncouthwest horizon and resembled a\nctreak of fire. There seemed to be\n1ed lights or a powerful red glow in\nthe nose of the object. Far, back at\nthe tail there was fire and smoke.\nThe first report came from Roa­\nnoke about 8 o'clock when ,J. S.\nMays and W. F. Mullins. both of that\ncity, said they noticed the object.\n\"It looked like a streak of fire,\"\nsaid Mays, \"and appeared to be go­\ning almost straight up and was\nstepping on it.\"\nSuddenly, he said, it appeared to\nlevel off and head eastward, re­\nsembling \"a snake wiggling on\nwater.\"\nOther\nreports\nfollowed\nfrom\nKingsport, Tenn., Bristi Pulaski,\nChrt·tiansburg and poin s west of\nRoa\nke.\n1 w liam C. Flanik, ch t aircraft\nc-om unicator, CAA,\n'\nPreston\nGle\nairport, said none of the\nLyn burg tower men had sighted\nIany unusual objects in the sky.\nFBI ­ RIC'-'t'O!m\nM?W 141949\nl\nlJ - i3~11 -11r\nE'NCLOSURf"
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   "n": 192,
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   "text": "•\n•\nIN RJ!PLY, PLEASE R>!FER TO\nFILE No. _____\n_\nB!eheral ihtr.eau of lttu.estigatum\n11tniteb itates il.epartm.ettt of iJwrtitt\nDid You See It? Well, What Was lt?\nBy WELLS CALD'WJ:LL\nThe strange object seen travel­\ning acro11 the heave_ns just after\nsundown last night has caused\nwidespread speculation here in\nRadford as well as in other sec­\ntions of Southwestern V.irginia\nand Eastern Tennessee.\nExactly what the mysterious\ntraveler was, no one here seems\nto know, and the number of con­\nflicting reports have only added\nto the confusion.\nThis much seems to be cer­\ntain: the object appeared over\nthe Southwest horizion shortly\nbefore 8 p. m. and was moving\neastward. Also, it was black, or\nat least part of it was.\nA Radford man, Jiving in the\neast end section, asked that his\nname not be used, but give this\nversion:\n\"I was working in the yard\nwhen I glanced up and saw a\nlong black thing flying across\nthe sky. It came from the direc­\ntion of Pulaski.\nIt looked a\ngreat deal like a rounded stick\nof wood which was burning in\nfront. The object was trailed by\neither vapor or smoke and faded\nfrom view when it seemed to be\ndirectly overhead-.\"\nMrs. Alfred Tolley, of 1702\nSeventh Street, west, reported\nher 12-year-old son, Albert, was\nplaying next door and noticed\nthe object. She said her son had\nbeen studying comets in school\nand called her attention to the\nphenomenon, thinking that it was\neither a comet or a meteor.\n\"The strange looking object\",\nshe said \"was long and black\nwith a light on the front end. It\nseemed to follow the air route\nfrom the directon of Pulaski,\nlater turning and heading toward\nBlacksburg.\nThere was a light\non the front end and great long\nstreaks of fire.\nWe saw it for\nabout 10 minutes.\"\nMiss Joe Stewart, of the Rad­\nford College biology department,\nsaid she saw the object and as­\nsumed it was the exhaust from\nan airplane. She added that she\nwas ''in no way alarmed.\"\nFred W. Hurt, of Fourth and\nl~ _i ?)'l'1~ - /7 f\n-?'-'CLOStJRc\nHarvey Streets, gave this ver- 1to be traveling too slowly for\nsion: \"At the first appearance it\nlooked like a comet.\nI recall\nHalley·s comet and it resembled\nthat.\nThere was, at first, a\nbright spot ahead of the stream\nof fire, but the trail didn\"t look\nso bright ~hen the object reach­\ned its zenith.\n\"It appeared to be moving slow-\nJy at first and later very fast,\nwhich indicates that it was quite\na distance away when I first\nsaw it.\nThe object seemed to\nfollow a straight path, however\nit v~ered a little once -\nin sort\nof ;l.n arc -\nand then straighted\nout agin.\nI heard no noise.\"\nMrs. James D. Heinline. of 60\nJackson Street, Monroe Terrace,\nsaid slie and her husband watch­\ne6 it with some neighbors.\n\"It looked like a long black\ncigar which was on fire\", she\nstated. \"We heard a faint sound,\nwhich might have been a small\nmotor. At times it looked like\nan airplane 'way, 'way off.\nJ\nthought at first it might be· a\ncomet or a meteor, but it seemed IBedford.\n1\n1\nI\nFBI - R!CHHO m\nM.~Y 1 61949\nl\nthat. It appeared in the south­\nwest and traveled toward the\neast. There was a kind of red­\ndish looking smoke about it.\"\nMiss Dody Jones, of Harvey\nStreet, reported watching the\nphenomenom with a group of\nchildren in the neighborhood.\nShe said it looked like \"what I\nthink a comet would look like.\"\n\"It was a red flare\", she con­\ntinued, \"which was light on the\nfront.\nIt moved slowly from\nthe Southwest and traveled what\nseemed to be straight up.\nIt\ncurved toward the east and the\nfire strealcs trailing it got longer\nas they began to fade out.\"\nL. B. Graybeal, of Christians­\nburg, a former Air Force pilot,\nestimated the altitude of the\nobject at 6.000 feet.\nHe said\nthere was a light from the object ,\nas it passed over and a \"roaring i\nsound.\"\nOther reports have been re-\n1\nceived from as far West as Kings-\n1\nport, Tenn., and as far East as"
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   "n": 193,
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   "text": "•\n•\nI -==\n•\nRemember Flying SaucersrWe/1\nLooks Like Flying Seegars Now\nFlying saucers are passe.\nNow people in Bristol are see­\ning \"long, cigar- shaped ob­\nject\" flashing across the sky.\nBut Bristolians were not the\nonly spectators ot the strange\ncraft yesterday evening.\nThe flaming object was re­\nported sighted at Kingsport,\nChristiansburg\nand\nRoanoke\nand three at Pulaski.\nRex Rainey, 1805 State Street,\nreported that he saw a \"whit­\nish, glistening m;iss, long and\ncylindrical like a big cigar,\"\nflying from east to west about\n7:15 Yesterday.\nHe said be\nsighted the \"cigar\" flying very\nrapidly over Virginia Heights\nand got out his binoculars to\nlook at it.\nAn unidentified caller in­\nformed the Herald Courier last\nnight that she had sighted\nsomething that \"looked like\nwhite smoke with a blue name\nthat traveled to the north and\ne~\" about the same time. \"It\nd' 't look like an airplane,\"\ns\nsaid, \"only like white smoke.\nI was just a streak and almost\no t of sight it was so high.\"\nI\nAnother· local woman reported\nthat she had seen\na \"silver\nstreak that looked like it was\nabout 100 feet long\" flash across\nthe sky shortly after seven\no'clock. She estimated the speed\nat about 200 miles per hour.\nA traffic controlman at Tri­\nCities Airport, Who asked that\nhis name be withheld, said that\nthe strange craft had not been\nseen at the airport although\nthey ha,d had inquires on the\n\"cigar-streak.\"\nHe said he had checked with\nthe Atlanta Air Route traffic\ncontrol center after receiving\ninquiries but they reported no\nknowledge of any jet aircraft in\nl\nthis Yicinity,\nHe speculated that the streaks\nmay have been caused by a jet­\npropelled plane or planes. \"The\nobjects were reported flying at\nan altitude of 30,000 feet,\" he\nsaid. ''If a jet plane were fly­\ning that high, it would be mov­\ning so fast the vapor trail would\nbe about all a person on the\nground could see.\"\nThe controlman said that the\nPulaski radio reported two seen\nthere. One about 4 p. m., and\nthe other an hour later.\nHe\nsaid that Pulaski also had a pi­\nlot's report of the \"streak\" trav­\neling northeast at an altitude ot\nabout 30,000 feet.\n.Reports on the \"flaming ob­\nject\" were received at Chris­\ntiansburg and Roanoke but air­\nports in those vicinities reported\nno information on the strange\ncraft.-\n13 R, I S /i) )-\n. ti ER /I ;..})\nR 1S1.> J..,\nl/4\nFBI - R:C'-if O m\nM.\"1Y 1 7;949\nl"
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   "text": ".Chim!!ey Farm\n•\n•\nNOBLEBORO, MAINE\n/\n-~\n$1,\\S :\nW~ J l ~,._q_\nw ao\\~\nLu\nfG.;"
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   "text": "_at _llifu. -'1'4.s\ns,c\ntt,u.v\n~\n•\n~\nnu,\n~()L(D.,t.A.CJL\n(JL.u._\n~\n't'n a..J'\\ ~ ~\n, eon ~~\n~\n·\nT'b\nt-v \\ ~\n(uo\n~o~.S, fw\n-.-nC~ ~\no~ ~\ns~ ~\ntt;;J\n'n1-<L4f ~\nf,__,_,\n~c)r\n0-.\nl,u ~ ~ j ~ I (¢\n/t;;, ~Jr\ntoev.,\nltr:i:u\nl.J.--L•~ ~\n~\n.\n():t -fo_,t-\n~ ~~\n~\nsig-3 ~\n. ~ WL\n~\nho DJ ;_h ~~\nlu.L ~\nYl;I' ~\nJ-s ~~\n~\nr ~\nh.~\nft.o S~\n.Jr\n~\nS®,011\"\n~ ~\nlw\nU/.) c, \"'L\naJ:ii' ~\n1 r(j >5 ~ rld.u.4 ~\nClJ.-1-(i ~\n.J,, ~\nOz-u., ~ h\\,LJ.c.-l\na-,) a. ~\n~, w r ~ ~ .\nLU.A!\nml.J.<)f\nh.{U,(..Jl\ns.o'l.u-\n;J,- ~ ti:,.."
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   "text": "-· .\n- .\n.\n. Chim1}ey Farm\n~\n• NOBLEBORO, M ~INE\n~\nI I~ l,U.L\nJiR.-& 1l ,._/U\n,&o-ic ,;I ~ w~ ~\n·..,(J\nlv~ ~\n. :er w .v.> lr.u:.u\n,,___\n~ nvvn~ ~\n~\n·\n~\nu.? c,,.-0\n'b\"> 0 ~\nou,_µ.J .\nLu..e\n~ ~\n~ eo.J.i Jr ~\n~ ~ Sc,_.u. UL\n'\nt:,.J-\n._,/-\nUzJo-a_..\n~\no,.J~ I\no,_v-d ~\n~,f • oh~ ~ ~\n~\ntp\nLu ~\nf,,\n((XrlL ~\n(.) <>-tf6 .U.\n•.__k\nf-z, ~\n~ t:IQ_ u.\nS~\n.S 6\"1-A SJ\nl,uooltio, /J~ 1 b,.j- av.,\n(µ.a.\nu..-u--J.u .s .f.o.u,J\n{uo1\n'-!th, (,lJV)'1i\n~~\n(M\nt(,.__q_.u..t\nI\n),. e__. L\n;~ ~\n•\nL{cJ\\4-1 > ~..,u ~\n(\n.3\n~ol.JI, ~\nYr/YJ\n~\n· ~\n~f-1)"
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   "n": 199,
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   "text": "letter\n,,. •\n•\n•\nFEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION\nFormNo.1\nTHIS CASE ORIGINATED AT\nPHILADELPHIA, PENNSYLVANIA\nF ILE NO. 62- 2542 VFH\nSYNOPSIS OF FACTS:\nFREDERI~QUARDT submitted ash residue to\nFire Marshal' s Office, Philadelphia, Pa.,\nwhich made chemical analysis.\n}l.ARQT'ARDT o-r­\nopinion that fire_Aay have been caused by\nmilitary flare oiU'flying saucer11 •\n-\nC ­\nDETAILS:\nThis investigation is p~dicated upon a\n4 p 1\nreceived from the office of the Fire Marshal,\nJ,,f.::J ~,/~ u ti\nPhiladelphia, Pennsylvania, dated May 19., 1949,\nI\n..,,,.) ,\nadvising that ashes had been received from one\nF. )AA'ftQUARDT, purportedly from a fire which had continued to burn for twelve\nhcurs. A chemical analysis of the ashes had been requested. The Fire Marshal's\nOffice noted that MARQUARDT had at one time worked for the Atomic Energy\nCommission.\nCaptain MICHAEL HANNAN, Fire Marshal's Office, advised that there\nhad been received through the mail on April 21, 1949, an ash._ sample with a re­\nquest for analysis.\nIn the letter of transmittal, MARQGARDTnad pointed out\nthat the fire had continued to burn twelve hours after water had first been\napplied.\nThe original letter of transmittal was examined and reflected that\nan object had entered the roof of the building., caused an explosion, and threw\npeople out of bed.\n/}\nCaptain HANNAN said he atte~ted to locate MARQUARDT at his\nresidence., 127 South 16th Street, but had bee~unsuccessful.\nHe added ihat at\nthe time the building managev had commented that MARQUARDT had been employed by\nthe Atomic Energy Con:o:nission.\n}!ARQU.ARDr was then requested by letter to appear\nat the Fire Marshal's Office.\nAPPROVED AND\nSPECIAL AGENT'\nDO NOT WRITE IN THESE SPACES\nFORWARDED:\nIN CHARGE\nt\n1-------\n~ ----,~---'-~~~__,_..J:...--.'-_R CORDED. 129\nzr -03X3aNt\nREPORT MADE AT\nDATE WHEN MADE\nPERIOD FOR\nWHICH MADE\nPHILADEIPIITA, PA.\n6-15-49\n5- 20-49\nmu. UNKNO/IN SUBJECT<fmE, SCRANTON, PE!'rnSYLVANI A,\nUNKN(J'(tN DATE\n­\nGEORGE--16:l\\UTON, COMPLAINANT\nREPORT MADE BY\nJAMES L. KIRKLAND\nCHARACTER OF CASE\nMISCELLANEOUS\nINFORMATION CONCERNING\nCOPIES OF THIS REPORT\n,.....2 - Bureau\n.... 2 - Philadelphia\n\""
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   "n": 200,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p200.jpg",
   "text": "•\n..\n' .\n...\n... ,\nli10ITAfJIT83VVH ,O UA3flU8 JAs:1303::i\n... .\n•\nI I.....-\n0J\"I :jf.Jl'lf"
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   "n": 201,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p201.jpg",
   "text": "..\nI\n..,,.\n•\nPH 62-2542\nActing Chief GEORGE KINGTON advised that he had interviewed\nMAR.cyJ.ARDT at the time he came to the office since Captain HANNAN was absent\nat the time.\nHe said that he then learned for the first time that the fire\nin question had taken pl ace near Scranton, Pennsylvania, ~@ Q£.QllI'rea_\nabout §j ;x;,.. J.'lQl!tho .Pte..viousl ~ •\nThis caused the Marshal ' s Office to withdraw\nfrom the caseori a question of jurisdiction and MARQUARDT was advised that\nany further action on his part should be referred to the State Police\nauthorities.\nAt the same time, KilltTON furnished MARQUARDT with the results\nof the analysis which had been ~ade of the ash submitted, and which analysis\nhad been made by Dr. EDWARD BURKE, City Chemist, Chemical Laboratory, Room\nfr'/5, City Hall.\nThis report reflected that the ash contained Magnesium,\nAlumirrum, Iron, and Calcium in the form of silicates, sulphur and carbonates.\nFREDERIC iiJ\\RQl!ARDT was interviewed at his place of business,\nthe H. A. KULJIAN COMPANY, Broad Street and Girard Avenue, Philadelphia,\nPennsylvania.\nAt this ti~ he advised that he had received the sample of\nash from a friend, V\"O(l)~FER, Lake Ariel, R. n., Wayne County, Pennsyl­\nvania, through the mail. He said that Lake Ariel is about one mil e south\nof South Canaan, near Scranton, Pennsylvania.\nHe stated that SHAEFFER' s\nhouse had burned about six months ago, that the fire had occurred at night\nduring a storm and that a large object had struck the roof and ignited the\nhouse which had burned to the ground in less than an hour.\nHe said that he had not been present during the fire but that\nthese details had been furnished by letter fr001 SHAEFFER at the ti.me a sample\nof the ash was forwarded for analysis.\nHe said that he was of the personal\nopinion that the ash might be a part of a military flare or a \"flying saucer11 •\nHe pointed out that he has been advised by associates in the\nengineering field that one of the characteristics of some types of flares\nis the fact that they burn for a considerable period.\nHe stated that the\nmass of the ash residue had remained ignited for a period of twelve hours.\nHe also stated that he did not think there had been an explosion but that a\nloud noise had probably been caused by the vacuum created as the missile\nor objects truck the roof.\nHe added that there remains a quantity of the\nash, amounting to one bushel, at SHAEFFER 1s premises at Lake Ariel.\n- 2 ­"
  },
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   "n": 202,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p202.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n•\n>\nPH 62-2542\nMARQUARDT adv· sed that he had been employed by the Atomic\nEnergy Commission at Oak Ridge until 1943.\nHe was entirely rational.\nHe\ndiscounted the theory that a portion of a rooteor had struck the house on\nthe basis of the chemical analysis made by the City Chemical Laboratory.\nMARQUARDT advised that at the suggestion of the City\nauthorities, he had written to SHAEFF'ffi and suggested that any further in­\nquiries be directed to the State Police.\nThe file of the Philadelphia Office reflect that the records\nof Immigration aJ)d Naturalization Service were negative to an inquiry concern­\ning FREDERIC S4ARQUARDT, OEM (Bureau File ?7- 30'S7) .\nThe files of this\noffice likewise reflect that M.ARQUARDT by letter received August 14, 194?,\nrequested of this office the identity of a powder or dust used to catch\nthieves.\nInasmuch as there is no yiql.F'ti.9n indicated within the Bureau I s\njurisdiction, there is no further investigation being conducted in this\nmatter.\nHowever, the ash residue obtained from the Fil·e t.arshal' s Office\nis being forvrarded to the Bureau Laboratory for any interest or study the\nLaboratory may desire to conduct relative to flares or in connection with\nthe possibility of the presence of \"flying saucers\" •\n- CLa3ED ­\n- 3 ­"
  },
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   "n": 203,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p203.jpg",
   "text": ". . . ...\nFBI\n,IAHA\n[ff-.,LCTOR\nFLYING DISCS,\n~\n,AL BUREAU or 1..11..... , ,..... .... •\nll. s. CiEPARTMEln or JU:iTICE\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTIOK\n7- 14-49\n4- 55\nU R G E N T\nINFORMATION CONCERNING .\nt\nMr. ToJs;,\n~ (,\nPM CST\nAff>U/ /\n/ ;rffe ; ~\n/\n•\n\"?~\n.,\n/,/\nWHILE ON VACATION RC\nC\nAT LAKE OF THE WOODS, NEAR KENORA, ONTARIO, CANAvA, SA CL:r=fE G.\nMATTHEWS OBSERVED UNCONVENTIONAL AIRCRAFT RESEMBLING FLVI~ DISC •\n.....-.-\nHE HAS FURNISHED FULL INFORMATION CONCERNING SAME TO U. S. ~R\nFORCE INTELLIGENCE, FORT CROOK, NEBRASKA, AND SAME ~ILL NOT BE\nREPORTED TO THE BUREAU UNLESS ADVISED TO THE CONTRARY.\nEND\nACK\n)\n94::ti PLS\nOK f\nWASH DC EJC\n~"
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   "n": 204,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p204.jpg",
   "text": "-\n•\n,­\n~ uJ\nc..:,\n: ..\n:)\nw\n:c ~\n,.,,­\n0-\n.:,\n0-,-...\n~ °'\n\\I\\\n-,\nC\nUJ\n<D\n,..:\n:i..\n. I-\nu,\n0\nu.l\n-:r\n0\n-i\n-\n~\n~\nc..>\n~\n~\n~\n33IJ :i ~r J,) J Jj 'S\":1\n\"'J\n3:)usnr 30 .. . ~o ·s ·:1\nD•/-cg .'\n..\nRQ1JfiPlMfl,..'tf1n\n6 ~ , \\\nH d\n8\nt~~li J ~\\ ~~:\nSI\n~ j lnf\nQ3f\\\\3':l'3\nij3HOl31.:J - 03Al333ij"
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   "n": 205,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p205.jpg",
   "text": "STANDARD FORM NO. 64\n\\_.\n•\nOffice Memorandum • uNrTEn sTATEs GovERNMENT\n,i>f\"\nTO\nDIRECTOR, FBI\nDATE:\nJuly 21, 1949\n~\nFROM\nSAC, NEW ORLEANS\nSUBJECT:\nYLnNG DISCS AND SAUCERS\nMISCELLANEOUS INFORMATICN CONCERNING\nFor the Bureau's information, several citizens in the community of\nAlexandria, Louisiana, have recently reportedly seen flying discs. The Alexan­\ndria, Louisiana daily paper has carried nUJD3rous articles concerning this.\nAt a recent meeting of the Young Mens Business Club in Alexandria,\na member suggested that since Alexandria, Louisiana is known as a convention city,\nthe club should try promoting a convention of flying saucer seers. This particu­\nlar comment appeared in the Alexandria paper and was picked up by the JJ' lines.\nMr. A. M_y\"D~GELO, a member of the Young Mens Business Club, advised\nSpecial Agent WALTER E. )()EJU..E that since the JJ' release, they have received a\nlarge number of requests regarding the convention of flying saucer seers from many\nparts of the United States. Mr. DeANGELO wt.ates that the interest of the people\nis evidenced by their inquiries about convention particulars, stating they are\nflying saucer seers and want to attend such a convention.\nThis gentleman further advised that in view of the volume of inquiries\ncoming in, it appears that the YMBC will have to hire an employee to handle all\nthe correspondence. It might be noted that he advised a representative of the\nAir Force from Barksdale Field, Louisiana, has inquired as to plans of a .flying\nsaucer convention, stating that they are interested in furnishing an observer if\nsuch a convention were held.\nThis information is being furnished the Bureau, as it is possible such\nan enterprise may cause people to falsify that they have seen flying discs or fly­\ning saucers. Such falsifications might be made so that they might attend such a\nconvention or become official delegates thereto.\nWEM:gp\n62-0\n63JUL29 · ,"
  },
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   "n": 206,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p206.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n.\n'T"
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   "n": 207,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p207.jpg",
   "text": "I\nSAC, Phoenix\nJwie 30, 1949\nDirector, FBI\nILLIAll WrBR:Pmoms\nINFOi\"WATIOU CONCERNING\nFLRHG DISCS\nReiutlet Juno 8, 1949, captioned \"Fltina Discs. \"\nIt ia believed that the reference appearing 1n the tirat line ot yoar\nreferenced letter to the Blu-eaQ 1a incorrect.\nComplete detail.a concerning the\nc:atter reterred to in 1our referenced COIJlllluni.cation appear 1.o a letter from\nyour ottice dated September 4, 'J.947, and not Septvmber 9, 1947.\nPursuant to ,10ur request, .rou are granted authority to tumt.ah the\nattached blind tJ1m0randu.1J1, which was forwarded to the Bu.reau with 1our referenced\nletter !or approval, to lb-. 1qnn c. Aldrich, OOI repreeentativo, Phoenix,\nli.r1£ona.\nAttacliment\nEHM:EFF\n~\n.;::..\n0 7\\\n~\n.r::.\nc.:o\n• '\nllr. Tolson\nl::; 8½:~n-­\nllr. Ladd.--_-_-_\nllr. Nichols\nllr. Rosen -­\nllr. Tracy-­\n..... llgan._-.:::::::=\nllr. OUrnin\n::: :..~-==\n11r. Pennington_\nllr. Qulrm Tam_\nTele. Roo11__\n:f;/\"~\n----·--\n• ­\nCOMMUNICATIONS SECTION\nMAILED 15\nJUL 11949\nP.M.\n*\n.Dtn~ il. ~\nor l~STl~!IO'f\nJllS11C£"
  },
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   "n": 208,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p208.jpg",
   "text": ",\n..\n...\nrlfJOt\n1v.~ 1J ,a 21 o: Tl\n•·urr:f,,u:iI\ncf03'14v'l\nI\ne~r ,\nl\n~\nM9\nI\n.\nf I"
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  {
   "n": 209,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p209.jpg",
   "text": ",\n-~\nSTANDARD FORM NO. 64\n•\n•\n•\nOffice-- Memorandum • uNrTEn sTATEs GovERN MENT\nTO\nMr. H.B. Fletcbe#\nDATE:\nJune 30, 1949\nFROM\nLish Whitson\nTOJ.aon__\nLadd___\nCle..._a:__\nSUBJECT:\nWIWAM ALBERF:\n/4\nODES\nINFCRMATION C CERNING\nGlavin__\nNlcbOle__\na FLYING DISW\nRoeen__\nTracy__\nll&rbo__\n1/ollr___\nPurpose\nT9le, Rooa_\n--·-­\nOoDc17__\nYour approval is requested in order that the attached letter and\nmemorandum can be forwarded to the Phoenix Office, authorizing that office to\nfurnish the attached memorandum to Mr. Lynn C. Aldrich, OSI representative,\nPhoenix, Arizona.\nBackgroWld\nIn July 1947, William Albert Rhodes was jointly interviewed by Special\nAgent J. Bailey Brower (Bureau Agent) and George Fugate, Jr., A-2 representative\nfrom Hamilton Field, California. The purpose of the interview was to secure from\nYr. Rhodes information and photographs of a flying disc, which bad been sighted\nand photographed by Rhodes.\nThe complete results of the interview and subsequent events are contained\nin the attached memorandum submitted by the Phoenix Office.\nMr. Lynn C. Aldrich, OSI representative at Phoenix, Arizona, has requested\nthe Phoenix Office to furnish him complete facts relating to this interview, which\nare to be subsequently forwarded to the OOI Office at San Francisco. According to\nAldrich, Mr. Fugate, referred to above, has been questioned concerning this matter\nby his superiors and he has advised them .that his recollection is \"hazy11 on the\nmatter. According to Aldrich, Yr. Rhodes has apparently now requested the Air\nForce to return the photographs, which were previously obtained from him.\nRecommendation\nIt is recommended that the Phoenix Office be advised that the memorandum\nattached may be forwarded by them to Mr. Aldrich, OSI representative, Phoenix,\nArizona.\nAttachments\nEHlbEFF\n,\nI"
  },
  {
   "n": 210,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p210.jpg",
   "text": "•\n•\n-.\nt\nt\n:tJI.L~•\n.H .cfo\n~.::IHJ13 1.:l ••• Q3A1303B\nI 8 :!"
  },
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   "n": 211,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p211.jpg",
   "text": "0\n'\n1 i!lureau of linorstigutinn.\n3llnibh §fates il.e.partm.ent of Ilustire\nPhoenix, Arizona\nJune 8, 1949\nt\nDirector, FBI\n0\nRE: FLTING DISCS\nDear Sir:\nRefer Phoenix letter to Bureau, dated September 9, 1947,\ncaptioned, REPORTS OF FLYING DISCS, for the attention of Assistant\nDirector D. M. LADD, setting forth the result of an interview con­\nducted by GIDRGE FUGATE, JR., then a representative of the Air Force\nIntelligence, from Hamilton Field, California, and Special Agent\nJ. BAILEY BROWER with one WILLIAM ALBERT RHODES, 4333 N. 14th street,\nPhoenix, Arizona, concerning his observation and photographing of an\nobject which was considered by the Air Force of significance from a\nsecurity standpoint.\nOn June 7, 1949, Mr. LYNN C. ALDRICH, OSI representative,\nPhoenix, Arizona, called at this office, advising that he had been\nrAquested by his superiors in San Francisco to obtain detailed in­\n,.,_\nfonnation concerning this interview since RHODES awar~tly.. hasw,_,..._._\n/ requested the Air Force to return the Rhotographs.\n\\ i;;dthii: P\n-\n':).\nFUGATE, when questioned by his superiors concerning the\nmatter, stated his recollection was \"hazy\" on the matter. OSI is\nanxious to secure the substance of information in the Phoenix file\nconcerning this matter. Mr. ALDRICH was furnished the substance of\nthe interview, as set forth in letter of reference and he has now\nrequested that he be furnished with a blind memorandum setting forth\nthis information in detail in order that he may make U available to\nthe OSI at San Francisco.\nes •"
  },
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   "n": 212,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p212.jpg",
   "text": "ir mpl\nCf } o JJ ~n t\ns. i ,r1u :~ ht U\"\": v~G t>dt1tS! 6d- ,u\nv J.\n:\n11\n'\\\n-~•:\\ <;:,.\n~\";)\n~'-J<'!r•\n'\\_4t. ~\n~\n:'?-0\n... '\"\n\"J.\">')"
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   "n": 213,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p213.jpg",
   "text": "• ~-\n•\nt\nm • UNITED S1\n,-OVERNMENT\nTO\nTHE DIRECTOR\nDATE: -July 20,\nFROM\nD. M. LADD p,-,\nSUBJECT:\n----\nC)\nYou will recall that Mr . Ernest Cuneo advised\nthe Bureau of a letter which Walter Winchell had received\nfrom an ind i vidual in Los Angeles indipaJing that he had\nseen a flying saucer leave the ground within h i s view and in\nwhich letter he theori2ed that this mi ght have been a land ing\nfrom another planet.\n(\nThe Los Angeles Office was requested to locate and\ninterview the writer of this letter , Peter Camerlon Jones , 164\nWest 37th Street, Los Angeles 7 , California.\nThe Los Angeles Office has now advised that the\npresent owner and former manager at this address have no\nknowl edge of any Peter Camerlo~nes and that other investigation\nto locate Jones was unproductive .\nIt would appear, th~,;,efore,\nthat this may have been a prank.\n;;,\nYou may desi re to advise Mr. Cuneo that there is no\nsuch person at the address given inasmuch as he indicated that\nMr. Winchell\n;ntend✓o do a\nol umn on this litte r.\nDML : FA\nRECORDED - 5\nIHDEXEll • 5\n20"
  },
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   "n": 214,
   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/65-hs1-834228961-62-hq-83894-section-4/p214.jpg",
   "text": "1/\nt\n•"
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