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 "slug": "nasa-uap-d7",
 "title": "NASA-UAP-D7-Skylab-Technical-Crew-Debriefing-1973",
 "agency": "NASA",
 "year": "1973",
 "page_count": 11,
 "source_page": "https://wearenotalone.space/document/nasa-uap-d7/",
 "original_file": "https://wearenotalone.space/Season 01/Release_1/NASA-UAP-D7-Skylab-Technical-Crew-Debriefing-1973.pdf",
 "license": "U.S. Government work — public domain. Text is machine OCR from the original scan; the page image is authoritative.",
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   "image": "https://wearenotalone.space/transcripts/nasa-uap-d7/p01.jpg",
   "text": "JSC-08053\nSKYLAB 1/2\nTECHNICAL\nCREW DEBRIEFING\nJUNE 30, 1973\nPREPARED BY\nTRAINING OFFICE\nCREW TRAINING AND SIMULATION DIVISION\nNOTICE: This document may be exempt from public disclosure under\nthe Freedom of Information Act (5 U.S. C. 552). Requests for its\nrelease to persons outside the U. S. Government should be handled\nunder the provisions of NASA Policy Directive 1382 .2.\nNatwnal Aeronautics and Space Administration\nLYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER\nHouston, Texas"
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   "text": "KERWIN\n(CONT'D)\nCONRAD\nQ,UERY\nKERWIN\nWEITZ\n:::oNRAD\n:IBRWIN\nUnusual or Unexpected Visual Phenomenon.\nWe saw light flashes.\nI think all of us saw them.\nI saw them most often when I was\nin the sack at night with my eyes closed but awake naturally.\nThey tended to wax and wane in frequency.\nSomeone asked me if\nthat was in conjunction with the South Atlantic anomaly.\nIt\nmay have been.\nI didn't have the pad with me at that time and\nI don't know.\nThey were numerous at times - two or three per\nminute.\nSome of them to me were a spot or sunbursts.\nSome were streaks.\nThe streaks, in my case, were less frequent than the bursts.\nMost of them were in my peripheral visual field.\nVery few in\nthe central visual fieJ.d.\nI don't know why.\nYou could isolate them to one eye, couldn't you?\nNo, I couldn't.\nI would say mine were primarily in the left eye for some\nreason.\nYou have to concentrate but you can determine they are in one\neye.\nI did not.\nThat was foolish of me but I didn't try.\nI'm sure\nthey are in one eye.\n23-20"
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   "text": "CONRAD\nSometimes I'd be lying there with my eyes half closed, and I'd\nsee a fire sensor wink.\nKERWIN\nAnd you'd have to be careful that you weren't confusing that\nwith the fire flash.\nOnce you've seen a few of each, there is\nquestion of which is which.\nThey're not an hallucination.\nKERWIN\nWe didn't feel it was operationally necessary for anybody to\nknow about it right now.\nWEITZ\nI had a couple that I thought were cosmic particles.\nan entrance streak and an exit streak.\nI saw\nCONRAD\nYes, I did too.\nWEITZ\nWhere, bing-bing, it seemed like it was\nand then the other side.\none side of the eyeball,\nCONRAD\nOne night I remember that there was a long shot then it was\nblank then there was a long shot in rapid succession, of\ncourse, but very definitely in and out - or across the eye.\nKERWIN\nMedical Kits and IMSS.\nAs far as adequate quantity of medica­\ntion and supplies, I would guess we used about 0.01 percent\nof the available medication.\nI think this is something for\nme to sit down with the doctors and talk about.\nThere is\nplenty of medicine up there for the Skylab missons.\nThere is\n23-21"
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   "text": "JSC-08478\nSKYLAB 1/3\nTECHNICAL\nCREW DEBRIEFING\nPREPARED BY\nTRAINING OFFICE\nCREW TRAINING AND SIMULATION DIVISION\nNOTICE: This document may be exempt from public disclosure\nunder the Freedom of Information Act (5 U. S.C. 552). Requests\nfor its release to persons outside the U.S. Government shou Id be\nhandled under the provisions of NASA Policy Directive 1382 .2.\nNational Aeronautics and Space Administration\nLYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER\nHouston, Texa,s\nOCTOBER 4, 1973"
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   "text": "BEAN\nLOUSMA\nGARRIOTT\nI did too.\nThe sack would move over in the corner.\nThings we saw out the window.\nFor example, we saw that satellite about a week before splash­\ndown.\nThat was one of the most unusual things that we saw\nand I guess Jack noticed it looking out the window.\nThis\nbright reddish object was out there and we tracked it for\nabout 5 or 10 minutes.\nIt was obviously a satellite in a very\nsimilar orbit to our own.\nIt was rotating and had a period\nof almost exactly 10 seconds because you could see the bright­\nness vary with that period.\nWe followed it until sunset and\nit went out of sunlight just about 5 to 7 seconds after we\ndid. It held its position nearly the same, in the wardroom\nwindow for that 10-minute interval although we could see it\ndrift in relative positions slightly, maybe 10 to - 20 degrees\nduring the course of that 10-minute interval. It was reddish\nin color even when we were well above the horizon.\nAs we\napproached sunset, it turned more reddish, presumably because\n. of the sunlight change.\nWhat satellite it was and how it\nhappened to end up in such a similar orbit, no one ever explained\nto us.\nAnd I would like to hear a few words from someone about\nthat satellite.\n7-4"
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   "text": "BEAN\nYou bet.\nWe never saw it again.\nYou'd think we would have\nseen it the next night or it would cycle by another time.\nMaybe it did and we weren't looking out the window.\nLOUSMA\nYou might point out that it never did take the shape of an\nobject but it was always brighter than any other star or\nplanet in the night sky.\nIt was much brighter.\nBEAN\nWe tried monitors and everything\nmake it into anything other than\non it but we could never\na bright light.\nLOUSMA\nIn doing T002, I had on other occasions, at least once\ntwice, seen other satellites although they appeared as\npoints of light.\nor\nstar\nBEAN\nLet's talk about caution/warnings at night and in the daytime.\nI noticed at first when we did have caution/warnings in the\ndaytime we all whistled up there real quick to see what was\nhappening.\nThen as the mission wore on, we tended to just let\nwhoever was closest take a look.\nWithout the TACS on, there\nisn't a lot that can go on exc~pt rapid DELTA-P which sounds\ndifferent than any of the other caution/warnings, particularly\njust a caution.\nI recommend to Jerry and his crew, and I'm\nsure that this recommendation will be hard to live by, that\ncaution/warnings don't appear to be anything you have to hurry\nand resolve or stop doing your tasks to race up to the panel\n7-5"
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   "text": "20.0\nVISUAL SIGHTINGS\nLOUSMA\nLet's talk about visual sightings.\nYou saw your way to the booster or\nVisual sighting no problem there.\nAny comments on countdown.\nyou didn't see that.\nBEAN\nYou might want to talk about\norbit when Owen and Jack saw\nthe visual sightings\nthe satellite.\non that\nLOUSMA\nYes, let's go through countdown.\ncountdown that were significant?\naway and all that kind of thing.\nAny visual sightings\nWe saw the swing arm\non\ngo\nPowered Flight:\nI watched the booster protector cover go\noff and lots of flashes and debris and everything in every\nseparation, but that's all norminal.\nDuring orbit: -\nGARRIOTT\nDo you want to talk about that satellite?\nLOUSMA\nI saw\nwould\nwould\na couple of satellites that appeared like a satellite\non the Earth.\nI saw one that was not like one you\nsee on Earth, so why don't you mention it.\nGARRIOTT\nOkay, about a week or 10 days before recovery and we were\nstill waiting for information to be supplied to us about the\nindentification.\nJack first noticed this rather large red star\nout the wardroom window.\nUpon close examination, it was much\nbrighter than Jupiter or any of the other planets. It had\n20-1"
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   "text": "GARRIOTT\na reddish hue to it, even though it was well above the\n(CONT'D)\nhorizon.\nThe light from the Sun was not passing close to\nthe Earth's limb at the time.\nWe observed it for about\n10 minutes prior to sunset.\nIt was slowly rotating because\nit had a variation in brightness with a 10-second period.\nAs I was saying, we observed it for about 10 minutes, until\nwe went into darkness, and it also followed us into darkness\nabout 5-seconds later.\nFrom the 5- to 10-second delay in\nit's disappearance we surmised that it was not more than 30\nto 50 nautical miles from our location.\nFrom it's original\nposition in the wardroom window, it did not move more than\n10 or 20 degrees over the 10 minutes or so that we watched it.\nIt's orbit was very close to that of our own.\nWe never saw\nit on any - earlier or succeeding orbits and we'd be quite\ninterested in having its identification established. It's\nall debriefed in terms of time on channel A, so the percise\ntiming and location can be picked up from there.\nLOUSMA\nOkay, other visual sightings was the one out the wardroom\nwindow.\nThat sunrise or sunset which finally led us to the\nRCS leak in the command module.\nIt disappeared like\nthousands and thousands of stars out there; all of them\ndifferent sizes and drifting along the X-axis.\nThe one that\nwe already mentioned.\nThe one right after insertion where\nwe saw the leak in the same manner of the RCS streaming towards\n20-2"
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   "text": "I\nJSC-08809\nSKYLAB 1/4\nTECHNICAL\nCREW DEBRIEFING\nFEBRUARY 22, 1974\nPART\nI\nPREPARED BY\nTRAINING OFFICE\nCREW TRAINING AND PROCEDURES DIVISION\nNOTICE: This document may be exempt from public\ndisclosure under the Freedom of Information Act\n(5 U.S. C. 552). Requests for its release to persons\noutside the U. S. Government should be handled under\nthe provisions of NASA Policy Directive 1382 .2.\nNational Aeronautics and Space Adminutration\nLYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER\nHouston, Texa,s"
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   "text": "GI:E,SON\nare still on the windows.\nJust what that material is, I'm not\n(C(,NT 'D)\nsure.\nBut the remaining pieces should be useful for contamina­\ntion studies.\nCA:E:R\nOne other item is the ammonia odor in the head which we dis­\ncovered about the last week in the mission.\nWe weren't sure what\nwas causing it. Bill had changed out the charcoal canister.\nWe disconnected the boot between the charcoal canister and the\nblower above it and took a sniff of that.\nWe smelled, no ammonia\nthere.\nWhen we connected the boot back up to the blower, a\nvery strong ammonia odor came from the blower output.\nThus it\nappears that the source of the smell was the blower unit itself\nand not the charcoal canister.\nAs we said in our report of it\nto the ground, we decided that it was tolerable for the rest of\nthe mission.\nTherefore, we didn't get into the mode of finding\nanother blower to put in there.\nI feel that the odor very\ndefinitely increased in intensity during the final week of the\nmission.\nCA1R\nOne other area of unusual events that we reported on the dump\ntapes was that on occasion we saw some lights flashing outside\nwith very a definite motion relative to ours.\nWe presumed that\nthey were other pieces of Skylab, or possibly other satellites.\nWe reported our two or three sightings of that kind as soon as\nthey occurred.\nWe have no special comments concerning them,\n7-8"
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   "n": 11,
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   "text": "CARR\nbut we did find it very interesting to be able to see other\n(CONT'D)\nobjects up there with us.\nThe fact that one or two of them\nappeared to be tumbling was apparently due to the oscillation\nof the light flashes that we were getting from them.\nPOGUE\nThe OWS Heat Exchangers:\nThere's a major design flaw there in\nthat filters were not installed upstream of the OWS heat exchanger\nvanes.\nWhen we first arrived, the vanes were so uniformly coated\nwith lint that I thought there was some kind of anodized surface\non them.\nI was never fully convinced that I had done the\nvacumming job properly; therefore, I fabricated a special tool\nthat fit flush against those surface vanes so that I could\nexert a good vacuum.\nThough they are not supposed to be con­\ndensive heat exchangers, I sucked quite a bit of condensate water\nout of them.\nI tried the best I could to keep those things\nclean, yet I never did get all that lint pulled out of there.\nThat is why I think we needed a filter in the system.\nGIBSON\nEVA anomalies might also be mentioned here.\nFor example, you\nhad the water leak outside, and I also got a water leak.\nPOGUE\nOne thing that was not mentioned on air-to-ground as a possible\ncause of the problem was the single-point failure that exists\nin the mechanical way that the PCU composite connector is\nhooked to the PCU.\nI was able during EVA, maneuvering through\nthe clothesline ropes, not only to open the lock but also to\nextend the arm which pulls the PCU composite connector off.\n7-9"
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